Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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Even Palestine has won the narrative war. But everyone knows what is the condition on the ground.
No Palestine didn't win 😂 There are Israeli bots, content creators, writers being heavily funded working within social media, mainstream media, even telegram consistently peddling their narratives worldwide. They spend heavily on Media. Moreover Israel has achieved things on the ground to see.
Petty politics of Rahul Gandhi/moral victory is way different than winning war/skirmish or even claiming to win it. It will be written in the history books & will have geopolitical implications. You need to counterbalance with proof, narratives even in your worst times. We know what happened but the next generation will probably not. How do you think Congress eliminated Hindu history?
 
Pakistan also won the narrative war in 1971
Western media portrayed Pak as a victim of Indian aggression

The point is, in hindsight, how did it help

Victory is decided based on achieving goals mentioned by a nation's leadership prior to the start of hostilities

Indian leadership goals were clear - target the perpetrators (LeT, Jaish camps) and their backers (PAF airbases)

Pak goals were to defend itself from Indian "agresssion" - the goal spectacularly failed, given the satellite images of PAF airbases

1971 was a different story since we created a new nation and the results were there for everyone to see,

In 2025, we pummeled them but no permanent damage that they cant recover from in a few weeks. Craters on the runways can be fixed. I only wish we had caused large scale damage to PAF hardware either parked on the runways/hangars or in the air. Anything material in the Pak airspace should have been shot down. In theory, the S400 can see anything that can fly while it's still taking off from the runway. This asymmetry should have been fully exploited.

Destruction of Karachi port by sinking a few ships in the harbor would mean long time decommissioning which should have been done. Pak ISPR will still dwell in alternate reality, but the damage done would have been material.
 
It's a proper intel failure for sure. I used to mock liberals a few days after the Pahalgam massacre when they tried to make it seem like the government's fault while ignoring the underlying malice existing within the terrorist state next door. The latter part is still unequivocally true and has always been but it's farcical that we haven't found the other 3 absolute subhumans responsible for the deaths of so many innocent civilians for being Hindus. Makes you think about the kind of infrastructure existing to facilitate the quiet and safe passage of these terrorists despite said terrorists having jeopardized the economy of the region for a whole tourist season. I hope the memory of the victims and the need to avenge their killers isn't forgotten in the hue and cry of Operation Sindoor.
Intel failures happen. A dozen US soldiers were blown up in a suicide bomb blast while hurriedly leaving Talibanistan. In that case they had Intel too that a blast was possible but the exact location was hard to determine. Simply having intelligence about a possible strike is not enough in a large country like India. Locations are needed. Unless we figure out a way to decrypt all the terrorist’s communications in real time and place moles within terror groups, it is impossible to learn that. Not even Mossad can pull it off. What Mossad does is build surprise measures that kill comms like the pager explosions of Hezbollah. We should have quietly tracked down who built the satcom phones for Porki Army and put some pav kilo atum bum in there.
 
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In Pakistani dossier, against India, Pakistan cited media outlets, journalists & experts from India:

1. The Wire
2. Siddharth Varadarajan
3. Radha Kumar
4. Ajai Shukla
5. Karan Thapar
6. Satyapal Malik
7. Sanket Upadhyay
8. Rahul Pandita

Pakis have made a Traitor List for us.
How kind of them <3
 
The greatest magicians in the world at delaying bankruptcy.


The current tense regional environment likely underpins the government’s proposal, endorsed by its largest coalition partner, the Pakistan Peoples’ Party, to raise the defence budget by 18 per cent for the next fiscal year. The critical question for a resource-constrained country, however, remains: who will pay for it?
 
Intel failures happen. A dozen US soldiers were blown up in a suicide bomb blast while hurriedly leaving Talibanistan. In that case they had Intel too that a blast was possible but the exact location was hard to determine. Simply having intelligence about a possible strike is not enough in a large country like India. Locations are needed. Unless we figure out a way to decrypt all the terrorist’s communications in real time and place moles within terror groups, it is impossible to learn that. Not even Mossad can pull it off. What Mossad does is build surprise measures that kill comms like the pager explosions of Hezbollah. We should have quietly tracked down who built the satcom phones for Porki Army and put some pav kilo atum bum in there.
Definitely, and as defense commentator Shiv Aroor observes( and I am sure many others) we don't always hear of the great successes of Indian security and intelligence in thwarting so many terrorist plots. Or even if we do, we don't remember or appreciate enough. It's only the few 'failures' that are talked about. Questions must be asked, that is for certain, but let's keep a sense of balance.

I remember an article in India Today magazine from the early 2000s, that even back then, Indian security forces had nabbed 400 terrorist cells throughout India. What if even 10 of those 'succeeded', there would have been a large number of deaths.
 
For the people RRing about losing the narrative war:

The military and roach paijaans themselves have provided irrefutable evidence of pakjabi airbases and bachabaazi training centers being hit. And we have a good direction to focus procurement on now. Any serious analyst/ military will know which side was dominant. Even the western losers have no choice but to acknowledge that now.

The inbred raands on the other hand have no choice but to delude their population. Their entire existence is based off of claiming false victories and doing mujra for the quam. They've focused a massive chunk of their efforts on pipth janrashun waarfayre. Not saying info wars are not important, but you can only convince those who have open minds. If we crushed them to the point where no info war could save them (we were pretty close to that), then they would play victim and become darlings of the west, arab and chongs. Theres no winning this info wise. Just keep head down and get to 10tril in economy as quick as possible. 26/11 did not stop companies/indians from investing in india, a battlefield victory for us surely wont either.

We have serious objectives to focus on, trying to get to 10 trillion, semiconductors, indigenous weapons etc - so out strikes will have serious considerations behind them. The average pak faujeet is content with land ownership, DHA plots, gora saheb validation and citizenship, zameendari, importing weapons, bachabaazi, goatfucking and other cousin-enjoying activities. No serious thought for progressing their country. I atually think its a good thing that the military is back with peoples support - a civilian govt, no matter how corrupt might actually start having economically forward ideas.

So to sum it up - we created real detterance. Those who needed to get the message got it. We validated weapons and solidified our direction militarily. and IWT is in the bin for now.

They, on the other hand, did mujra, got strengthened politically and virtually, but violated militarily and in reality. The baloch, pashtuns etc have tasted blood. Pakjabi specialty Mujra is not going to stop them. They have to import more weapons, wheat, money wont be spent on development and no country will want to invest in them now. Every country has seen that we can strike anywhere and everywhere. Chinas CPEC will get obliterated if they try something to get more involved next time.
 
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