Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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China danda de chuka hai, Viswaguru abhee bhee nahi samjhe hai.

One time money - nahi chahiye as emergency purchases will lead to each commander buying varied stuff again.
Arre get BPJs, Boots, Plate and Carriers for men and Scopes for those fking guns.
Lekin emergency procurement me Iron Man ka suite ayega.

We need 1% increase in defence budget + inflation adjusted increase YoY for 10 years.
+ We need strategic purchases, not 36 Rafales here and 22 Apaches there.
Are bhai ye additional budget nhi hai ye stockpile replenish karne k liye fund hai. Jyada negative naa socho. Jo asla barood, drones, missiles aur anyanya samagri uda hai iss yudh mein waha ab hawa se to punah prakat nhi hoga mahodaya. Uske liye bhi arth ki avashyakta to hai..yaha wah arth hai.

Kal hi AAD ne BEL se extra IDDIS order kiye hain. Haan kuchh aise waise import honge par procurement guidelines nhi allow karengi itna imports.
 
How will they do it ? Where are the engines ?

Hal can increase production speed with govt order. But they need engines.

How many f414 we have got till now ?
And how many we were suppose to get ?

Same thing will happen with Amca.
A automotive without engine is just a trunk.
Current rate GE can only deliver 2 engines a month . so this year we will get 10 or lucky 12 engines . the blame should be on our side we are keep on doing this lazy sloth business , lethargic attitude kahi nahi jayega they will open the shop overnight once we place orders and they will churn engine and give it to us in weeks .

Same happened wit our C-17 procurement too when Boeing clearly said its shutting down the production line if no further orders are coming and finished the last 11 aircraft's and we were able to scrape through getting the last one after some begging . if our baboons had moved little faster we could have got all the 11 but then again same short sighted vision and hardly any planning .


I won't be surprised we keep on doing this AMCA AMCA stuff till 2035 and then IAF and Govt will ask LM to take order for F-35 when they might have shut down the production .. Then someone will come with master stroke like we will get F-35 production line here in india when no one in the world would be interested to buy that jet , Same like we getting F-21 aka F-16 production line with HAL for MRCA deal
 
1) LOL LMAO not till BJP is in power.
2) Yeah only thing that is on table I assume
3) pak desperately wants a dialogue, of ANY kind. Our stance is clear, "Give us back our land" and I dont see any development on this issue for long long time or until pak implodes or we become 1st world



concept art, when are we applying for r&d monies?
I think I know what he means. You seen those toy remote control helicopters?

I think he wants the blades on top of the AK instead, so the fuselage of the helicopter is replaced by the gun. Then you can control it by remote control
 
Tejas MK1A is F404 only we could have at-least better control with France as they only care about money not Indian containment like US
Best bet would have been we being stingy and paid the 300 million $ froggies were asking us to look into Kaveri and help us rectify the issues and do a joint collaboration for engine for AMCA , But then our Desi baboons don't want to make some far sighted stuff they want to buy engines from murica and build jets around it rather than pursuing hard to get a half owned desi engine delivered
 
Current rate GE can only deliver 2 engines a month . so this year we will get 10 or lucky 12 engines . the blame should be on our side we are keep on doing this lazy sloth business , lethargic attitude kahi nahi jayega they will open the shop overnight once we place orders and they will churn engine and give it to us in weeks .

Same happened wit our C-17 procurement too when Boeing clearly said its shutting down the production line if no further orders are coming and finished the last 11 aircraft's and we were able to scrape through getting the last one after some begging . if our baboons had moved little faster we could have got all the 11 but then again same short sighted vision and hardly any planning .


I won't be surprised we keep on doing this AMCA AMCA stuff till 2035 and then IAF and Govt will ask LM to take order for F-35 when they might have shut down the production .. Then someone will come with master stroke like we will get F-35 production line here in india when no one in the world would be interested to buy that jet , Same like we getting F-21 aka F-16 production line with HAL for MRCA deal

Every US jet will come with stipulations on how it can be used. It would be worse than burning the money. The US has clearly shown it's not reliable. They will use maintenance and parts as leverage for strategic control.

We only have one viable option that is Su57, no matter it's flaws.
 
1) LOL LMAO not till BJP is in power.
2) Yeah only thing that is on table I assume
3) pak desperately wants a dialogue, of ANY kind. Our stance is clear, "Give us back our land" and I dont see any development on this issue for long long time or until pak implodes or we become 1st world



concept art, when are we applying for r&d monies?
Porkies not gonna give up on kashmir ever that's the sole point of their existence and nuclear war seems inevitable now.
One think they could offer is some land in Sindh as exchange for territory of j&k.
Conflicts with india favours porkies though as it allows them to grab power but if their food security is threatened things will go south.
 
Easy to say. Modi inherited a bankrupt economy. His second term started with the disastrous economic consequences of Covid. 100+ Rafales at the price they were asking was never a serious possibility in those circumstances.

Also premise of 36 Rafale buy is incorrect it was not for MRCA requirements,

It was for strategic payload delivery requirements.

MRCA is still an open ended question and answer is still not found
 

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Kanglu is giving threat.
It wouldn't take a day to pound Turkey if we assume a war scenario.
Even a nuclear power like Pakistan has turned into a destitute.
Kanglu is having battle cry trying to blend in.

Can't we just place old artillery guns in Meghalaya and old bm21 in darjiling and some more artillery in mizoram

This are the only weapons we require to annihilate kanglus from border area
 
In light of urgent needs IAF should order the Su-57 with latest engines. We should also buy 2 extra regiments of S400 and 5 Regiments of the S500, we should also opt for local assembly with TOT.
Su 57? To do what? Even the Houthis almost got an F35. We need to start building more Su30MKI's with domestic upgrades to the radar & the avionics, all built to carry cruise missiles. It's a complete waste of time to spend $250 million per plane like the Rafale to only do standoff firing of missiles from within our territory. Maybe add a few more Rafale - 2 dozen at the most, buy upgraded Su30MKI's and look to repurposing aircraft like the P8/C2 to be a standoff missiles deliverer.

In a future conflict, if we need to fire some 40 odd air launched Brahmos at any given time, we would need 40 Su30's to do that. Much more sense to have a large aircraft to deliver a bunch of those missiles from outside any threat area. Alongside a bunch of Su30's and Rafales doing the attacks.
 
I agree with you 100%. I find Iterative Prototyping to be the most effective methodology when designing and manufacturing a new product.

Below, if anyone is curious, I am describing the steps that makeup what is called Iterative Prototyping:

1. Concept Development:
This is the first stage and it involves defining the product's functionality, features, and target audience.

2. Design and Prototyping:
During this stage, you create a prototype to visualize and test the design.

3. Testing and Evaluation:
After the previous design phase, the prototype is tested with users and stakeholders to gather feedback on their usability, functionality, and design.

4. Refinement and Iteration:
After completion of the feedback collection, the design is refined, and new prototypes are created, repeating the testing and evaluation process.

5. Finalization and Manufacturing:
If a prototype qualifies as MVP (Minimum Viable Product), we are ready to manufacture the product.

Chadmirals of the Navy did iterative development with their ships

Originally they added Roosi missiles to this one class of Bri'ish ships that were the original Nilgiri class, build in India

Then they made a deshi derivative with a large hangar to hold 2x helicopters, this was the Godavari class

Then they made the country's first destroyer, with hull design inspired from Soviet vessels and carrying soviet missiles and radar wagera, this was the P15 Delhi class.

Navy has it's own design outfit called Warship Design Bureau, last i checked they hire smart nibbas from IIT Delhi itself and do design for all the warships

They also have their inhouse Electronics Engineering group called WESEE, to make raita deshi and imported from 5 places equipment work together flawlessly, your BEL wagera also do this but this is in-house Navy organization

Warship building is done mainly at MDL in Mumbai, but now major ships are also being built at GRSE Kolkata, ofc CSL made INS Vikrant because the other yards are smaller

These yards have heavy presence of Retired Navy officers of Commodore rank in managerial, I guess this application of the uniformed man's boot on the bottoms of chai-biskoot, union and strike pasand PSU workers gets them to actually work :bplease:

They are also chill with collaborations and usage of stuff from other PSUs, like Indian navy ship's steel comes from SAIL, and many DRDO developed equipment is also used.

The other two services meanwhile do the bare minimum, it's either imports or screeching at DPSU or infinite trial-testing
 

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View attachment 36334

Kanglu is giving threat.
It wouldn't take a day to pound Turkey if we assume a war scenario.
Even a nuclear power like Pakistan has turned into a destitute.
Kanglu is having battle cry trying to blend in.


Kaisa pound karega re?
Have you seen where the cockroach nation is?

Regardless the cockroaches come in the Indian Ocean and the Navy deletes them, not even crumbs will be left for IAF and IA.

Diplomatically they are useless and have no leverage viz India, as compared to Gulf Sheikhdoms who sell us oil at the right price and have our people working there and sending forex.

Kanglul needs to stop blindly sucking that Turki kebab
 
People were dhoti shivering every year on this board over 8 Mard -e- Chowmein AIP pandubbis bought by Al-Bakistan in 2014, while we have only delays since then and the last Scorpene has even been inducted.

Meanwhile only 2 of these Chong subs have been launched, still under trials and the rest under construction.
It is 2025 now, 11 years while another user was lungi-shivering over "they can churn out ships like dumplings"

:bplease:

I am convinced most of these "PAAPISTAN TO GET J35 BY 202X" articles are all placed by LM dalals to get out dhotis to buy F35 at the cost of the country's sovereignty
Wow here comes the dalal word when we ask some rational questions desi toy boyz will simply call us as US dalal or Russian Vodka simps or Juice pimps , But then Quota baboons will deliver nothing on time and won't even do anything great on scaling up .

Yes saar my dhoti was shivering since 2014 for ching chong submarines to porkis getting delivered and now they got 2 another 6 also will come . Just go to anyone in MDL and ask them how long it took for them with their superior french support to launch the first scorpene and also go and ask your baboons in CSL how long it took to commission IAC1 ..

It is the intention china has the capacity to produce its just that they haven't give it to porkis but if they want they can do it and you don't have any capacity to counter that domestically .

Take time and let me know by 2030 what all the inductions in IAF and IN we will be seeing and also the net inventory we will have to use in 2030.

Giving 2030 because another 5 years gap before next conflict between both nations .
 
Easy to say. Modi inherited a bankrupt economy. His second term started with the disastrous economic consequences of Covid. 100+ Rafales at the price they were asking was never a serious possibility in those circumstances.
Factually wrong on both counts.

Modi inherited a fatigued economy - one which survived the greatest recession I can remember.
But it was still growing at robust pace.
See chart attached.
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He did harakiri by doing demonetisation which had a -ve effect on GDP growth rate( chart dips after 2016) and then a messed up GST rollout which further aggravated the MSME sector.

But for COVID, Nirmala tayi had no place to hide. Now she can say act of God sank the economy in 2020. See the curve above, it was already sinking.

So no, I am not giving him a walkover with sweeping generalizations like he inherited bad economy. He inherited a robust economy which was emerging from the recession and he created the economy which he inherited in the 2nd term.


i don't want to go into why 36 Rafales etc, but this is exactly the same mistake which was done by George Fernandez in converting a simple Mirage2000 buy into a MMRCA circus.

If Pakistan can say they will eat grass but fight India, why can't our Govt. take stern measures and do the same. What is the need of feeding 80 crore people grains with his photo on the packet when our AF is short on fighter jets to protect the country, and foot soldiers don't have BPJs and helmets?
 

View: https://x.com/TheGuyFromBklyn/status/1895483360220213637

View attachment 36334

Kanglu is giving threat.
It wouldn't take a day to pound Turkey if we assume a war scenario.
Even a nuclear power like Pakistan has turned into a destitute.
Kanglu is having battle cry trying to blend in.


One more target for my phorce magajine!

Finally another country with enough chromosomes and Jajba to buy my abbus advertised maal.

Turkish roach bastards are giving my middle kingdoms wunderwaffle a run for its money. How dare they try to steal our "low quality for the highest price" segment:censored2:
 
There is another thing i've mentioned in a previous post, they bought/begged J10C in response to our acquisition of 36 Rafale.

It wasn't pre-emptive.

People must stop taking dalal articles seriously about this beggar shithole, China is no daan-veer Karan, bheek has it's logical limits

Besides all their gucci gear is wasted on these incompetent inbreds, all they are good at is begging for ceasefire among begging for other things :bplease:
So the only threat india faces right now is porkistan and we should base on our defence modernisation based on their capabilities .

Well i thought we are building our forces to defend ourselves from chinese aggression and dominate porkistan

Sorry saaaar to break this news from my dhoti . IAF has nothing to counter against the Chinese J-20 at this stage all this big talk by former CAS that our Su-30 can track those J-20s doesn't mean they can go against them in an air to air battle ..

Even in this fresh just ended conflict we found ourselves lacking in handling Air to Air battle ...China is not porkistan which you can intimidate with a S-400 covering its entire air space , Chinese has depth which your super silver bullet brahmos can't reach at a whim ..

you should always try to look your capabilities against a superior enemy instead of comparing it towards someone who you consider a nuisance .

Kar lo tumara Desi toys dreaming 35 AMCA in 2045 against 300 J-20 and keep feeling good with meme type lines like chinni maal chale toh shyam tak bla bla .
 
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