Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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I am in kaneeda right now and going to Amreeka next week. I can tell you the mood here and generally in the west. India is not part of the conversations here. The west conversations revolve around Trump trade war and Russians.i dont know why our MEA keeps on trying to explain things to the west. They don’t care. The west is facing several problems of their own. They just want India to solve the Pakistani menace and move on so they can depend on India as a market for business. The west will be 100% ok if India built powerful weapons and made deals with China to solve the Porki problem once and for all. They do not care about barbaric terror attacks on our people. Nothing. The Israe-Gaza war and Russia-Ukraine war has desensitized people in the west to sufferings in places like India. Trump has made everything transactional to the point that even the 5i nations citizens have started hating America. So when we decimate porki assets, we really dont have to think about the west. There is a standing green light from developed countries to get rid of terrorists. They do not care about our diplomatic trips by MPs. I dont know why we are doing all these explanation trips. No one wants an explanation. They just want the Porki terrorists gone.
The American deep state brokered a ceasefire because they don't want Pakistan to fall apart and have the nukes fall into the hands of the radical Islamic Black market (which might end up in the hands of Iran or smth). That and a nuclear war will fuck up the climate and the world's economy (particularly agrilculture production in Africa).

But in terms of public pressure, correct no one gives a shit about who wins between India and Pakistan. Muzzies and the right-wing may slightly support Pakistan because they think India is pro Israeli, but the average person just looks down upon/doesn't respect either enough to care.
 
The American deep state brokered a ceasefire because they don't want Pakistan to fall apart and have the nukes fall into the hands of the radical Islamic Black market (which might end up in the hands of Iran or smth). That and a nuclear war will fuck up the climate and the world's economy (particularly agrilculture production in Africa).

But in terms of public pressure, correct no one gives a shit about who wins between India and Pakistan. Muzzies and the right-wing may slightly support Pakistan because they think India is pro Israeli, but the average person just looks down upon/doesn't respect either enough to care.
Burgericans keep getting mood swings, sometimes they reward porkistan and sometimes they punish it.
Right now they are in reward mode and world bank is also on verge of giving 20 billion loan to porks.
Fatf will also not happen.
 
The American deep state brokered a ceasefire because they don't want Pakistan to fall apart and have the nukes fall into the hands of the radical Islamic Black market (which might end up in the hands of Iran or smth). That and a nuclear war will fuck up the climate and the world's economy (particularly agrilculture production in Africa).

But in terms of public pressure, correct no one gives a shit about who wins between India and Pakistan. Muzzies and the right-wing may slightly support Pakistan because they think India is pro Israeli, but the average person just looks down upon/doesn't respect either enough to care.

pakis begged for ceasefire once craters size of small meteors started appearing in the middle of paki hardened aircraft shelters …

stop this deep state shit now Modi and Jaishankar has cleared in plain words
 
Burgericans keep getting mood swings, sometimes they reward porkistan and sometimes they punish it.
Right now they are in reward mode and world bank is also on verge of giving 20 billion loan to porks.
Fatf will also not happen.
They punish when they misbehave but never completely. They will even let the head of Al Qaeda be protected by the ISI for 10 years and let ISI support the Taliban for 20 years while they sacrifice the lives of their troops and 2 trillion dollars for an extra 20 years futilly attempting to destroy them, because that's how important it is to prevent Paki nukes from reaching Iran's hands and trying to nuke Israel.
pakis begged for ceasefire once craters size of small meteors started appearing in the middle of paki hardened aircraft shelters …

stop this deep state shit now Modi and Jaishankar has cleared in plain words
I mean it's true that the American deep state wanted the ceasefire. Trump and Vance didn't give a shit. But i'm more concerned why India didn't tell the US to go fuck itself and keep fighting.
 
I mean it's true that the American deep state wanted the ceasefire. Trump and Vance didn't give a shit. But i'm more concerned why India didn't tell the US to go fuck itself and keep fighting.

Literally 100s of post here explained this earlier.

India was always responding to paki aggression,

India responded for pahalgam by attacking terror infra without hitting any paki military targets

pakis sent drone swarms and ballistic missiles on our civilian and military area, which failed completely thanks to Indian Air defense

In response India fcked up Nur Jahan base from where these drone swarms were managed

pakis tried again by trying to hit Indian air bases this also completely failed

In response India started hitting pakistan from north to south all legitimate military targets

pakis ran to USA for asking to mediation for cease fire

USA called India, India told we r just responding to paki aggression and everytime pakis tries something even if fails India will respond, if pakis want ceasefire they can call themselves

Then USA told pakis ur nuclear bluff is failed we cant do anything, call to ur daddy and beg for ceasefire

This is the whole story
 
They punish when they misbehave but never completely. They will even let the head of Al Qaeda be protected by the ISI for 10 years and let ISI support the Taliban for 20 years while they sacrifice the lives of their troops and 2 trillion dollars for an extra 20 years futilly attempting to destroy them, because that's how important it is to prevent Paki nukes from reaching Iran's hands and trying to nuke Israel.

I mean it's true that the American deep state wanted the ceasefire. Trump and Vance didn't give a shit. But i'm more concerned why India didn't tell the US to go fuck itself and keep fighting.
Eggjackly…no one seemed to care and no one expected India to stop fighting suddenly. That is what some people here tell me.
 
Literally 100s of post here explained this earlier.

India was always responding to paki aggression,

India responded for pahalgam by attacking terror infra without hitting any paki military targets

pakis sent drone swarms and ballistic missiles on our civilian and military area, which failed completely thanks to Indian Air defense

In response India fcked up Nur Jahan base from where these drone swarms were managed

pakis tried again by trying to hit Indian air bases this also completely failed

In response India started hitting pakistan from north to south all legitimate military targets

pakis ran to USA for asking to mediation for cease fire

USA called India, India told we r just responding to paki aggression and everytime pakis tries something even if fails India will respond, if pakis want ceasefire they can call themselves

Then USA told pakis ur nuclear bluff is failed we cant do anything, call to ur daddy and beg for ceasefire

This is the whole story
I agree with all other than the last three sentences. Do you have a source for India saying we won't stop and that Pakistan has to request a ceasefire, and that the US responded to them saying we can't force India to do anything? You might be right but we shouldn't peddle misinfo.

And if that's the case, why did India stop? Is it because they don't want a wider war where Chinese might get involved? Because this seemed like the best opportunity to wipe out Pakistan once and for all. Now they will beef up their air defenses.
 
I agree with all other than the last three sentences. Do you have a source for India saying we won't stop and that Pakistan has to request a ceasefire, and that the US responded to them saying we can't force India to do anything? You might be right but we shouldn't peddle misinfo.

And if that's the case, why did India stop? Is it because they don't want a wider war where Chinese might get involved? Because this seemed like the best opportunity to wipe out Pakistan once and for all. Now they will beef up their air defenses.

Check out the statement from DGMO, EAM, PM and published news,

India has clearly said paki DGMO called and asked for ceasefire.

And the objectives for Mission Sindoor now a policy is clear,

The terrorist and their backers will be punished and the objectives were achieved manyfold along with IWT trashed.

Also check out the press briefings after 6 May,

India has responded to paki aggression, India does not want escalation but if pakis tries anything India will respond proportionally this was always the stance of India Govt.

All paki strikes drone swarms, ballistic and cruise missiles were completely failed but when India responded pakis had no where to run.

India achieved her objectives strikes deep inside paki terrorist infra and military infra and trashed IWT, what did pakis achieve?

lollipop of rafale kills supported by chinese propaganda 🤣🤣🤣 in this day and age anyone believes a fighter jet crashed can not be captured by social media is a fool,

They keep on showing a photoshop image of BS001 tail and another so called M88 engine whose size is of a house hold fridge this is the propaganda and these paki inbred awaam is happy, but paki military knows how much fcking they got from abaa jaan ..
 
I agree with all other than the last three sentences. Do you have a source for India saying we won't stop and that Pakistan has to request a ceasefire, and that the US responded to them saying we can't force India to do anything? You might be right but we shouldn't peddle misinfo.

And if that's the case, why did India stop? Is it because they don't want a wider war where Chinese might get involved? Because this seemed like the best opportunity to wipe out Pakistan once and for all. Now they will beef up their air defenses.

Well, there is also something called common-sense.

Pakistan was getting bombed in broad daylight.
It's airfields were being bombed, it's hangers were being bombed, pretty much on live tv.

You just need a single brain cell at this point to come to the conclusion as to who were desperate for a ceasefire.

As to why India stopped, 2 reasons. First, we wanted no escalation, we achieved our objectives, both militarily and politically when we bombed terrorists on the first night. The next days were basically us showing Pakistan their place. We would have happily stopped on the first night itself after we bombed terrorists if Pakistan did not try to retaliate.
Second, US pressure. As much as want to deny this. there was some pressure applied against India to a ceasefire. The condition India put to US was to tell pakistanis to ask for it through their DGMO to India. This is to ensure that the ones asking for it was Pakistan and we complied to it from a higher position.
 
Should had told US to make Pakistan ask for it publicly and not on backchannels.

That's where the pressure from US on India probably came in.

We fked them publicly
Asking for public humiliation would have been too much for them.
Uncle Sam needed to protect it's bitch and hence the compromise.
 
This is one of the best videos I have seen on drone warfare. As most of you know Russia was not particularly known for drones prior to Ukraine war despite being a major military power. Just check out this video how they have realized the importance of drones in today's warfare. This should be wakeup call for us as well.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmfNUM2CbbM&ab_channel=RealReporter
 
Porkis PM and so called Field Marshal in Tehran to meet Iran leaders but what a insult. Iran do not even bother to have Pakistan flag which is normal in 2 nations leaders meeting. (even if Pakistan flag is some where in corner not visible to camera - it shows how Iran treat these jehadis)

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What if customer is in a situation where it is better to lose 15% than default on existing commitments? Stranger things have happened in the past. Do you remember the Australian Sub deal? That was awesome.

France's reputation especially after cancelling the Russian Helicopter Carriers is not so great either. Nobody is going to give you 15% upfront.
That means for Dassault an extra bonus of nearly 700 € millions, because these jets will be delivered to other customers early (if they want). These jets are not specially tailored so easy to resale.
Not a problem.
Since the Russian Helo carriers, we sold a lot of Scorpene, a lot of Caesar, a lot of Rafale. Everybody understand it was only a political move.

15% upfront : it is the Dassault commercial conditions. I think the first (and difficult to find) customer may had better conditions, but now that the Merignac assembly line is full, no discount, no bargaining on the first wire.
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About Australian sub : they paid the R&D phase of the Shortins Barracuda. We sold it (a very near version) to the Netherlands and maybe in the future to Canada.
 
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