Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

[Master of Indus]

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[Hari Sud]

Chinese Military Hardware Falls Short in Operation Sindoor

China claimed it was clever enough to copy Russian or Western military hardware designs and offer copies as its own at half the price. But during Operation Sindoor—a brief India-Pakistan conflict in May 2025—Chinese gear underperformed badly. This failure has forced Chinese into silence.

Pakistan, heavily reliant on Chinese systems, found this out the hard way. The HQ-9 air defence system failed to intercept a single drone or missile, and Chinese-supplied radars couldn’t detect incoming Indian threats on May 7–8. The Indian assault began with drones mimicking Su-30MKIs and Rafales, prompting Pakistani radars to activate and reveal their locations—making them easy targets for precision Indian missiles. Even when Pakistani pilots scrambled, they ended up shooting down decoys or drones.

Meanwhile, India’s Integrated Air Defence Command—combining systems like the S-400, Akash, Barak, L-70, and ZSU-23 under one network—intercepted 99% of incoming Chinese-made drones and missiles, including the PL-15. That was a bad day for Pakistan.

Conclusion: India’s success lay in the superiority of its weapon systems and the seamless integration of diverse platforms under a unified command. For Pakistan and other Chinese arms buyers, this conflict exposed a harsh reality: Chinese military tech is not battle-proven.

 

[Ajatshatru]

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I hate this subramaniam chutiya swamy, out of his jealousy towards PM and his cabinet he has now joined the rafale down bandwagon

Constructive criticism is always welcome, but he took it too far by claiming the J-10C is superior to the Rafale. That one statement undermines his entire argument and makes it a sheer buffoonery.

 

[Master of Indus]

Constructive criticism is always welcome, but he took it too far by claiming the J-10C is superior to the Rafale. That one statement undermines his entire argument and makes it a sheer buffoonery.

Since when this or any such braindead moron became Defence Experts? What's his source of information? Ispr?

These are snakes are best avoided and allowed to die in peace!

 

[Brood Father]

Comparing the cheap Chinese Junk-10C or the Junk Fighter-17 to state-of-the-art Rafales is blasphemy. If delays in the AMCA program mean India needs to import F-35s, so be it—but let’s be clear: no sane person on Earth would claim that Chinese hardware is superior to Western systems—or even to Indian-made platforms, for that matter.

Its never about superiority of weapon system , that's paki way of addressing things , it's about how well your system is integrated with your strategy and tactics.
M21 vs F16 is a prime example ..On paper there is no comparison but on live battle we know how F16 was shot down by M21

 

[Ajatshatru]

Its never about superiority of weapon system , that's paki way of addressing things , it's about how well your system is integrated with your strategy and tactics.
M21 vs F16 is a prime example ..On paper there is no comparison but on live battle we know how F16 was shot down by M21

priority should always be given to domestic platforms. Most importantly, India needs an indigenous turbofan engine for both fighter jets and drones. Fortunately, the dry Kaveri engine is expected to be certified for drone use later this year.

 

[samsaptaka]

Something doesn't quite add up. Was there something lost in communication ? Did the IAF specifically receive such instructions from the GoI not to target these assets ? If yes how does one explain us going after their N facilities even if it was only to cause superficial damage just to make a point.

To me that's a bigger escalation than targeting the PAF assets on the ground. Or was it an either or situation wherein targeting both was seen as possibly too much on the escalation ladder & any one target was selected to make a point which in this case happened to be the N facilities even if it was the bigger of the two targets in the escalation ladder ?

There are simple explanations to these Qs :
1. Maybe IAF fighter payloads included Scalp or other bunker buster munitons or SAAW kinda ammo, so they dropped them only on buildings & hangars and runways rather than parked aircraft.
And the damage was not superficial as far as bulidings hangars and awacs were concerned. F16s were toasted too + personnel upto 50 men (atleast) killed.
2. It would be an escalation provided porks have full ctrl over their nukes without US veto. We knew porks won't touch the red N button without US approval (which will never come), hence the warning shots on kirana & sargodha which also was a warning to US that we don't consider pork N threat to be a threat at all. Hence these were not escalations but rather aimed at shutting pork pigs from further doing any N sabre fake rattling.

 

[Ajatshatru]

Since when this or any such braindead moron became Defence Experts? What's his source of information? Ispr?

These are snakes are best avoided and allowed to die in peace!

A Rafale costs around $300 million per unit, whereas the J-10C is priced at just $40 million. Yet, it’s the Rafale that finds buyers across the world—while the J-10C has only been purchased by Pakistan. That alone speaks volumes

 

[samsaptaka]

@Sickle_Cut is Indian.

What's with multiple posters accusing anyone who dissents as Paki?

LW intolerance to any opposing opinion shouldn't be emulated by RW. Everyone including Armed forces can be questioned. Some guys want complete annihilation of Pak and hence when our Politicians or Armed forces bring in morality when dealing with Pakis, some get annoyed. @Sickle_Cut most probably is that sort of guy.

True , any op can be seen as 'half full ' or 'half empty ' glass.
Former is required to boost confidence of own black pilled RR doing people and latter are required to further pressure GoI to implement the FinalSolution. Its like the normal and orthodox jooz in Israel, at the end of the day both want destruction of Sullahs. Carrot & Stick you see ?
Also, maybe we need some more patience, after all GoI , modi and ninda turtle continue to keep repeating Op Sindoor is not yet over. Lets wait & watch. I too was very disappointed at the ceasefire, but after looking at what we achieved, I am hoping we will continue to push on in the future & finish the job.

 

[Ajatshatru]

There are simple explanations to these Qs :
1. Maybe IAF fighter payloads included Scalp or other bunker buster munitons or SAAW kinda ammo, so they dropped them only on buildings & hangars and runways rather than parked aircraft.
And the damage was not superficial as far as bulidings hangars and awacs were concerned. F16s were toasted too + personnel upto 50 men (atleast) killed.
2. It would be an escalation provided porks have full ctrl over their nukes without US veto. We knew porks won't touch the red N button without US approval (which will never come), hence the warning shots on kirana & sargodha which also was a warning to US that we don't consider pork N threat to be a threat at all. Hence these were not escalations but rather aimed at shutting pork pigs from further doing any N sabre fake rattling.

India’s military capability to neutralize Pakistan’s nuclear installations should be as robust as that of the United States. While no country openly adopts a policy of preemptively destroying an adversary’s nuclear arsenal, such actions become inevitable in the event of war. Had Ukraine retained its nuclear weapons, Russia would have undoubtedly targeted those sites. if Iran were to acquire nuclear weapons, U.S. and Israel would likely act to eliminate them. There is nothing inherently wrong with targeting nuclear weapons—after all, they are weapons of mass destruction and their elimination serves global security.

 

[Teengunalagaan1]

So there are two possibilities, either Chini don't know how to make quality military equipment or they supply substandard ones to those they export to.

I personally believe it's the former. In either case, they are an unreliable source and India should go all in to try and capture the market from current Chini customers.

It has to be former, I highly doubt they would export substandard material than what they are using, they are trying to crack defense market, selling inferior quality products would be counterproductive, at-least the weapons they sold to Pakistan failed to meet the requirements.

Second, they don't have any combat experience, they would be very much be interested in evaluating how their equipment performed in real combat scenario.

Chinese CCP is very pragmatic, they will learn from this battle, they got a real experience of the equipment being used without getting directly involved, what better than that, again why would you have exported inferior products this is best scenario for them?

I have heard some geo political experts claim China exports lower quality than what they use, I don't know how they are considered experts.

 

[Numero]

A Rafale costs around $300 million per unit, whereas the J-10C is priced at just $40 million. Yet, it’s the Rafale that finds buyers across the world—while the J-10C has only been purchased by Pakistan. That alone speaks volumes

Mostly due to American/European lobbying. They will never go beyond Pakistan, Bangladesh & 2-3 irrelevant African countries who can buy only 2-3 in numbers. Pakistan is their experimental state. They will consume any Chinese product without condition. China also needs Pakistan to make theatrical climaxes out of their low quality products & for promotion.

 

[The Juggernaut]

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I hate this subramaniam chutiya swamy, out of his jealousy towards PM and his cabinet he has now joined the rafale down bandwagon

He should be renamed as Susu Samy, chu*** deserves kick on butt in front of everyone. Udhar Owaisi duniya bhar me Naam kama raha hai, aur yah kameen Paki media se ga*** ma** raha hai.

 

[Chanakya003]

Mock Drill on 31st May 2025.
Pigistaan ko roj mock drill ka naam le lekar marenge.

 

[MasterChief]

Once the dust settles, the Indian Air Force will provide clarity on where we fell short and what needs improvement. However, that doesn’t imply that Chinese tofu jets are not junk—Pakistan remains the only customer for such cheap, mass-produced Chinese junk.

The IAF probably will divulge minimal details on losses.. It doesn't need to and doesn't need foreign and domestic eggsperts to analyse the shortcomings and how to close them.. Just look at how IAF performed in their precision strikes all across Pakistan during Operation Sindoor compared to the rather mediocre performance during the strikes on Balakote .

 

[MasterChief]

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I hate this subramaniam chutiya swamy, out of his jealousy towards PM and his cabinet he has now joined the rafale down bandwagon

Kiski Gaand sung ke Swamy ne yeh Information nikala ? Bahut confident hain, jab sala Rijiju ko bhi pata nahi tha ke kya ho raha hain ..aur samjha tha ki Karachi pe attack ho gaya .

 

[superpower]

Kiski Gaand sung ke Swamy ne yeh Information nikala ? Bahut confident hain, jab sala Rijiju ko bhi pata nahi tha ke kya ho raha hain ..aur samjha tha ki Karachi pe attack ho gaya .

RUNDY SWAMI NE KHOOD KI GAAND SSONG KAR NIKALA HAI DATA..

 

[Sanglamorre]

Mock Drill on 31st May 2025.
Pigistaan ko roj mock drill ka naam le lekar marenge.

They'll cancel this one too.

Porks will be either too strained due to repeated high alerts or lulled into sense of security by repeated cancellation. I suspect the time when cancellations would happen would also be varied to keep them on the edge.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

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[LETHALFORCE]

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