Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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I don't see Pak media crying over the loss of their AWACS, F16, and the fact that all their key airbases were made non-operational. They came crying for caesefire.

In India, we take even minor things like one or two jet down too seriously. Opposition is idiot to think that a couple of jet downed is something that they can use to make Modi lose face.

In war, you fight. When you fight, you get hurt. That is the rule of fighting. No matter how powerful a man is, when he fights, he is bound to get somewhat hurt, doesn't matter if he kills the other man in the fight. America got so fucked fighting Taliban. Russia is so fucked fighting Ukraine. Does that make America weaker than Taliban or Russia weaker than Ukraine.

American generals keep getting into wars with immense loss of money and manpower. They do so to keep their forces tip top. If America, despite tremendous money and tech; does not get into fight or get hurt in battlefield for just 50 years, it will become weak.

War scars make you strong. You never learn without knowing your weakness. And the war does precisely that. Otherwise, you are a hawa Hawai military like Chinese.

And I don't give a rat shit anarrative. What is Paki narrative- despite their bases made in operational, attacks on their command and control, and losing IWT- they have won. I would wish Pakis such victory each and every time.
In pak you will never hear the losses publicly, pak fauj never accepted their failure, braindead pak awam still live in an illusion that they won 1971, 1999 war since we lost few jets.
 
That's the logic even 10th fail students too understand....

but what about our Gov

who want to win Nobel Price in WAR

1971 mistake of letting porkies easy pow one-side exchange....

Kargil loss for not crossing the border...(ceasefire after 2 months when porkies wanted ceasefire)

balakot fiasco....

and now Hitting things which can be easily repair....(ceasefire after 4 days when porkies wanted ceasefire)

we know what weapons they have...
we know where this weapon will be likely used...
we saYy we have war drill completed...
still we get easily lockdown and then we learn the lesson....

HATS-OFF
Repair thing a dumb point, take this example:- you can change a light bulb on your terrace easily when weather is nice, now imagine doing same while there is a massive hurricane outside with debris flying around.

In a case of full scale war, an airfield being disabled for even 5 min can be catastrophic. Not to mention is all the fpv drones flying would make quick work of any repair effort.
 
I don't see Pak media crying over the loss of their AWACS, F16, and the fact that all their key airbases were made non-operational. They came crying for caesefire.

In India, we take even minor things like one or two jet down too seriously. Opposition is idiot to think that a couple of jet downed is something that they can use to make Modi lose face.

In war, you fight. When you fight, you get hurt. That is the rule of fighting. No matter how powerful a man is, when he fights, he is bound to get somewhat hurt, doesn't matter if he kills the other man in the fight. America got so fucked fighting Taliban. Russia is so fucked fighting Ukraine. Does that make America weaker than Taliban or Russia weaker than Ukraine.

American generals keep getting into wars with immense loss of money and manpower. They do so to keep their forces tip top. If America, despite tremendous money and tech; does not get into fight or get hurt in battlefield for just 50 years, it will become weak.

War scars make you strong. You never learn without knowing your weakness. And the war does precisely that. Otherwise, you are a hawa Hawai military like Chinese.

And I don't give a rat shit about narrative. What is Paki narrative- despite their bases made in operational, attacks on their command and control, and losing IWT- they have won. I would wish Pakis such victory each and every time.
Narrative doesn't matter externally

But when it's poorly handled and becomes a political theatre's domestically it does matter.

If retaliation on Pakistan becomes an election risk it's not a good thing
 
I don't see Pak media crying over the loss of their AWACS, F16, and the fact that all their key airbases were made non-operational. They came crying for caesefire.

In India, we take even minor things like one or two jet down too seriously. Opposition is idiot to think that a couple of jet downed is something that they can use to make Modi lose face.

In war, you fight. When you fight, you get hurt. That is the rule of fighting. No matter how powerful a man is, when he fights, he is bound to get somewhat hurt, doesn't matter if he kills the other man in the fight. America got so fucked fighting Taliban. Russia is so fucked fighting Ukraine. Does that make America weaker than Taliban or Russia weaker than Ukraine.

American generals keep getting into wars with immense loss of money and manpower. They do so to keep their forces tip top. If America, despite tremendous money and tech; does not get into fight or get hurt in battlefield for just 50 years, it will become weak.

War scars make you strong. You never learn without knowing your weakness. And the war does precisely that. Otherwise, you are a hawa Hawai military like Chinese.

And I don't give a rat shit about narrative. What is Paki narrative- despite their bases made in operational, attacks on their command and control, and losing IWT- they have won. I would wish Pakis such victory each and every time.
Paki AWAAAM thinks they have Zero losses

As no debris was recovered.

They think Tom Cooper is Islamophobe ( this is your Reddit Pakis and over seas ones )

They have argument for every thing you throw against them

BECAUSE THE DAMMAGE WAS NOT UNDIABLE

Excelpt Bholari and Sahabaz ( may be Kirana Hills )

All strikes were symbolic by IAF


To avenge Rafale, you hit Hangars of J 10 in PAF Kamra , ( PAF had no hesitation to attack Golden Temple or Brahmos Warehouse or S400 at Adampur )

Mutiple Nuclear bases in Karachi ( PAF Faisal , Masroor )

Tom Cooper even said , Navy was ready with Mig 29 and Rampage
 
That's the logic even 10th fail students too understand....

but what about our Gov

who want to win Nobel Price in WAR

1971 mistake of letting porkies easy pow one-side exchange....

Kargil loss for not crossing the border...(ceasefire after 2 months when porkies wanted ceasefire)

balakot fiasco....

and now Hitting things which can be easily repair....(ceasefire after 4 days when porkies wanted ceasefire)

we know what weapons they have...
we know where this weapon will be likely used...
we saYy we have war drill completed...
still we get easily lockdown and then we learn the lesson....

HATS-OFF
When generals are not penalized for something like kargil it shows height of incompetency ,coupled with politically motivated appointments , the one with brilliance are shunted out while staff goers are preferred.
Mind you sagat singh was not awarded by army it was government which felicated him with Padma awards
 
Repair thing a dumb point, take this example:- you can change a light bulb on your terrace easily when weather is nice, now imagine doing same while there is a massive hurricane outside with debris flying around.

In a case of full scale war, an airfield being disabled for even 5 min can be catastrophic. Not to mention is all the fpv drones flying would make quick work of any repair effort.
The cost was not High Enough to deter PAF


They still have AWACS advantage and are looking for PL-17 as well from Chengdu

They are not morons like Indians

Pakis made their own data link ( Link 17 along with JF-17 project )

They silently inducted 9 SAAB Erieyes ( no fuss , no declaration )

They flew Qatari Rafales to get the know how and make operation planning

PAF is best arm of Pakistan , and even guards their Nukes

They are not dumb like average Paki
 
When generals are not penalized for something like kargil it shows height of incompetency ,coupled with politically motivated appointments , the one with brilliance are shunted out while staff goers are preferred.
Mind you sagat singh was not awarded by army it was government which felicated him with Padma awards
Hold up, you seem to discount the civilian control over escalation ladder like it dosent even exits .
 
Why would PAF ingress into IB or LoC , knowing presence of S400 and our AD.

Marshal Bharti himself denied of having any wreckage
A retired Air Marshal has analyzed the video of the wreckage that fell inside India. It was identified as a Mirage III/V and a JF-17. The air intake and nose cone of the JF-17 were clearly visible, and the engine components characteristic of the Mirage III/V were also distinctly seen. I will share the video with you.
 
People calling the Indian military retarded and claiming that "people are saying", should find other forums that more suit their interest. This forum has "defence" and " Bharat" in it. Some basic decency is required. Alarm bells are going off.
Tell that to the martyrs of Kargil

Even G.D Bakshi and Vikram Jit Singh have questioned Leadership acumen and blunders in Kargil , PAFF debacle are enough proof of rott.

You have no Sundarji or Parrikar or Rawat or Manekshaw

A bunch of clueless "Yes Men " running the show
 
A retired Air Marshal has analyzed the video of the wreckage that fell inside India. It was identified as a Mirage III/V and a JF-17. The air intake and nose cone of the JF-17 were clearly visible, and the engine components characteristic of the Mirage III/V were also distinctly seen. I will share the video with you.
Please do

And we if have it , why are IAF not brandishing it like the AMRAAM and PL-15 wreck
 

Kharge had said in a press statement that no Rafales were down in the week after/during Sindoor btw after Govt held an all party briefing.
 
The cost was not High Enough to deter PAF


They still have AWACS advantage and are looking for PL-17 as well from Chengdu

They are not morons like Indians

Pakis made their own data link ( Link 17 along with JF-17 project )

They silently inducted 9 SAAB Erieyes ( no fuss , no declaration )

They flew Qatari Rafales to get the know how and make operation planning

PAF is best arm of Pakistan , and even guards their Nukes

They are not dumb like average Paki
Aah, the picture gets clearer with every post of yours. The Indian military are " retards", now "morons". All this while simping for the Pakistani military...
 
Aah, the picture gets clearer with every post of yours. The Indian military are " retards", now "morons". All this while simping for the Pakistani military...
If calling a spade hurts you than please bear with it.

You think , planners can't make mistake.

"Why PAF has more AWACS and better data link "

Wish guru army is doing trials still and begging Embraer and GE when they stopped production
 
A retired Air Marshal has analyzed the video of the wreckage that fell inside India. It was identified as a Mirage III/V and a JF-17. The air intake and nose cone of the JF-17 were clearly visible, and the engine components characteristic of the Mirage III/V were also distinctly seen. I will share the video with you.
Come on.. If JF-17 had crashed inside indian territory we would have displayed the wreckage like we have displayed the wreckage of PL-15 and Pakistani missiles and drones .
 
Why Attaturk made military the Turkish guardian in case of civilian Non-sense

Military should not act like cannon fodder and slave to politician
Yaar pakjaabee you need to keep the porki military glazing to an appropriate minimum even amidst bhosdapiling outbreaks. It just makes your bhosdapiling less effective! Look i am telling you this for your own good and to make sure you get paid well for your efforts!
 
If calling a spade hurts you than please bear with it.

You think , planners can't make mistake.

"Why PAF has more AWACS and better data link "

Wish guru army is doing trials still and begging Embraer and GE when they stopped production
Paakjaabee attempt not to peddle hizra-e-momin talking points about muh data links so openly. You have to disguise them better. Maybe just hint at the awacs gap instead of being of open about it.
 
If calling a spade hurts you than please bear with it.

You think , planners can't make mistake.

"Why PAF has more AWACS and better data link "

Wish guru army is doing trials still and begging Embraer and GE when they stopped production
Aparently

The

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Data link and AWACS

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Keyboard

That

Writes

Like

THIS !?

Is it due to the shifted center of gravity ?
 
Airforce showed the satellite images of s400 claim and brahmos claim and denied reports of any successful air to ground operation by paki but on question of fighter jet loss they clearly said there were losses . Details are avoided most probably due to political sensitivity and nt to add in to the Pakistani propaganda .

Regarding if we avoided the military targets on day 1 , we are not sure about that . Yes radars were nt targeted on day 1 . We dnt know yet if it was paki air defence or paki bvr engagement , but all talks in internet indicate about bvr warfare . And I ll be quiet surprised if we did nt engage their fighter jets from the day 1 .
 
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