Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

[INDIAFIRST]

there was an american assessment of kargil war

basically they said...
Indians chose to lay down their foot soldiers rather than getting the advantage of AS missiles...which may be costly at that time....
They wondered a country having active space program failed to have pin point location
and many such bla...bla...bla....

My only point is why my even single soldier needs to suffer or be an easy target to my enemies....just because i have huge army....why this mentality....

 

[705-Lira]

If calling a spade hurts you than please bear with it.

You think , planners can't make mistake.

"Why PAF has more AWACS and better data link "

Wish guru army is doing trials still and begging Embraer and GE when they stopped production

Where was this AWACS advantage and superior data links when IAF went bonking 11 PAF airbases in a matter of minutes.

Care to explain

 

[Sickle_Cut]

Yaar pakjaabee you need to keep the porki military glazing to an appropriate minimum even amidst bhosdapiling outbreaks. It just makes your bhosdapiling less effective! Look i am telling you this for your own good and to make sure you get paid well for your efforts!

Just label any cross question as a Paki

And pretend "All is Well "

As per your logic, PAF should be dumb and have less AWACS ( they are also poorer )

Why IAF had to do A2G strike and not G2G

Calling dissent as Paki is nice face saving.

Has an active space prgram, missiles but still has to use Rafale to show off

And get 1 Rafale shot

 

[haldilal]

View: https://x.com/TimesAlgebraIND/status/1928776095228387486

 

[Sickle_Cut]

Where was this AWACS advantage and superior data links when IAF went bonking 11 PAF airbases in a matter of minutes.

Care to explain

They were obviously doing ops in KPR and balochistan airspace due to threat from S400

The Bholari SAAB had landed from Kamra ( the Sq Ldr Usman was from Pindi )

 

[concard]

Come on.. If JF-17 had crashed inside indian territory we would have displayed the wreckage like we have displayed the wreckage of PL-15 and Pakistani missiles and drones .

A JF-17 seems to have crashed from the images available. Displaying a small missile which is more or less intact and burnt out Jet is very different. Besides, we still have not come out officially and made a claim what we have shot down. All we know from IAF chief is we shot down something "High tech". From the videos available when we bombed Noor Khan air base, we definitely damaged their C130. It was clearly visible from the video that 3 of 4 propellers were on fire. From a video posted here by @FalconSlayers it was clearl we used S400 to shoot down a SAAB.

What is not clear however is how many aircrafts we took out when we hit their air bases. It's likely we took out another SAAB when we hit their hangar in Bholari air base. It is difficult to believe 4 pigs died in a empty hangar or died when eating Biryani. There is that. I think it's time for IAF to make official claim on how much damage we did to the enemy's assets without delay.

 

[Sickle_Cut]

Aparently

The

PAF

has

great

Data link and AWACS

But

has

A

Keyboard

That

Writes

Like

THIS !?

Is it due to the shifted center of gravity ?

Why Meteor is no data linked with Phalcon and Netra

Care to Extplain ( what is IAF BVR Kill chain )

Astra Mk2 included or still waiting trials

Gandiva still postponed


Care to explain

 

[Sickle_Cut]

A JF-17 seems to have crashed from the images available. Displaying a small missile which is more or less intact and burnt out Jet is very different. Besides, we still have not come out officially and made a claim what we have shot down. All we know from IAF chief is we shot down something "High tech". From the videos available when we bombed Noor Khan air base, we definitely damaged their C130. It was clearly visible from the video that 3 of 4 propellers were on fire. From a video posted here by @FalconSlayers it was clearl we used S400 to shoot down a SAAB.

What is not clear however is how many aircrafts we took out when we hit their air bases. It's likely we took out another SAAB when we hit their hangar in Bholari air base. It is difficult to believe 4 pigs died in a empty hangar or died when eating Biryani. There is that. I think it's time for IAF to make official claim on how much damage we did to the enemy's assets without delay.

There were 50 men at Bholari , it has just 1 hangar if see on Google Maps satellite

42 were inside hangar , 12 outside

No way hangar was empty

The injured also likely succumbed and brushed off by PAF as classified.

 

[jaishrikrishna]

Why Meteor is no data linked with Phalcon and Netra

Care to Extplain ( what is IAF BVR Kill chain )

Astra Mk2 included or still waiting trials

Gandiva still postponed


Care to explain

we don't even have meteor yet. And how do you know when we have it, it will not be data linked?

 

[Sickle_Cut]

we don't even have meteor yet. And how do you know when we have it, it will not be data linked?

What was the purpose of Rafale then

From 2020 to 2025 can't induct Meteor ?

 

[Sickle_Cut]

Yaar pakjaabee you need to keep the porki military glazing to an appropriate minimum even amidst bhosdapiling outbreaks. It just makes your bhosdapiling less effective! Look i am telling you this for your own good and to make sure you get paid well for your efforts!

Tell that to the Import Bahadur

Acting meek, giving PoRKI and Kanglus opportunity to embolden.

If you believe being a regional power, grow some balls and muscle too

 

[FalconSlayers]

Doesn't make sense. Why would the French not deliver Meteor even after the delivery of Rafales? If they are delivered then it can be mated with Rafale as the French have the source code anyway. We don't know whether they were armed with Meteor or not. But the whole hype about PL-15E is BS. That missile does not have 400km range in real conditions. And neither JF-17 or J-10 has the capability to guide PL-15E until terminal phase. Their onboard radars have less than 200km detection range realistically speaking.

Some things are still not making sense. If Pakis were really confident about shooting down Jets why did their air force was barely in action when we were pounding them after that night? F-16s were not in action. They seem to have relied on JF-17 and J-10. IAF needs to get it's act together and go for the kill next time. Pakis are not going to get any air defense systems anytime soon. It's time for Phase 2 of operation sindoor. Their air assets must be destroyed without any restraint.

Nope. Only last year German and Italian Air Forces operationalised the Meteors after tests. We are yet to. The image of our Rafale carrying it is of in-flight testing most likely in France. No image exists of it being used operationally.

German Eurofighter launches Luftwaffe’s first Meteor missile

Germany has conducted its first firing of MBDA's Meteor beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile from one of its Eurofighter combat aircraft.

www.flightglobal.com

Meteor BVRAAM Operational on Italian Typhoons

The Italian Air Force deployed its F-2000 Typhoons equipped with Meteor missiles to Romania for the NATO Enhanced Air Policing. The Italian Air Force has

theaviationist.com

If we actually had it porkis would've never dared come close to the strike package. We struck their radar sites with kamikaze drones on 8th and used stand-off missiles to simultaneously target their air bases on 9th and10th.

 

[Barci]

Whats with the blackpilling on this thread?

IAF was the aggressor and had to penetrate heavily defended Paki airspace, still we made sure that Pakis lost more assets including their AWACs, their air defence radars, and their airforce effectively being grounded due to runway damage.

And morons who are claiming that operation should have planned differently, should note that it is always easy to point fingers in hindsight, especially if you are an armchair general who never had to plan an actual operation. The other strike options were equally risky

1. Using could have caused catastrophic collateral damage and given pakis a excuse to cry in front of the world
2. Drones like Harop wouldn't have been able to penetrate the paki AD like Rafale and MKI did. We used Harop only in drone swarm attacks.
3. Nirbhay isn't even operational LOL

IAF has much more information about the options available than we do. So trust them instead of believing that a armchair general who has probably not even seen knows more about when to use it than Indian Armed forces.

 

[Doreamon]

There were 50 men at Bholari , it has just 1 hangar if see on Google Maps satellite

42 were inside hangar , 12 outside

No way hangar was empty

The injured also likely succumbed and brushed off by PAF as classified.

Recent satellite updates show holes in some buildings inside their airbases . Might be command centers . One hole in a large underground storage . mobile command center is confirmed hit . don't think those were all empty . That Shabaz hanger looks bigger than bholari .

 

[Captscooby]

Not to brag but I can give better interview than him and guess what I am not a good public speaker ..Ffs..this our best of best who climbed to ladder of general then I am very sorry about our selection process

May be he didn't had a very good command of language like sushi boy has who literally make white man run for cover . may be he would have explained better in hindi .. just to tell you in an interview to karan thoopar mudi ji was seen drinking water from glass as not able to match him in his hinglish replies same thoppar was made to drink water by Jaya because she has extraordinary command over the language ..

Not everyone can be so good like Gen Bira and do you remember how good was Gen MMN who came after him ?

 

[Sickle_Cut]

Whats with the blackpilling on this thread?

IAF was the aggressor and had to penetrate heavily defended Paki airspace, still we made sure that Pakis lost more assets including their AWACs, their air defence radars, and their airforce effectively being grounded due to runway damage.

And morons who are claiming that operation should have planned differently, should note that it is always easy to point fingers in hindsight, especially if you are an armchair general who never had to plan an actual operation. The other strike options were equally risky

1. Using could have caused catastrophic collateral damage and given pakis a excuse to cry in front of the world
2. Drones like Harop wouldn't have been able to penetrate the paki AD like Rafale and MKI did. We used Harop only in drone swarm attacks.
3. Nirbhay isn't even operational LOL

IAF has much more information about the options available than we do. So trust them instead of believing that a armchair general who has probably not even seen knows more about when to use it than Indian Armed forces.

Su 30 based was still used ( as confirmed by a Booster in Pakistan )

Point was, the endangering of Rafale could have been avoided

May be just lamb a Jaguar/ Mig 21 and use decoys well.

Losing 3-4 Jets is not Normal when you plan this, its an indication of blunder.

 

[Sickle_Cut]

May be he didn't had a very good command of language like sushi boy has who literally make white man run for cover . may be he would have explained better in hindi .. just to tell you in an interview to karan thoopar mudi ji was seen drinking water from glass as not able to match him in his hinglish replies same thoppar was made to drink water by Jaya because she has extraordinary command over the language ..

Not everyone can be so good like Gen Bira and do you remember how good was Gen MMN who came after him ?

Even Rajiv Ghai and Bharti can speak better than what supposed to be retired General did.

Have u seen General Rawat or Naravane speaking

 

[705-Lira]

Nope. Only last year German and Italian Air Forces operationalised the Meteors after tests. We are yet to. The image of our Rafale carrying it is of in-flight testing most likely in France. No image exists of it being used operationally.

German Eurofighter launches Luftwaffe’s first Meteor missile

Germany has conducted its first firing of MBDA's Meteor beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile from one of its Eurofighter combat aircraft.

www.flightglobal.com

Meteor BVRAAM Operational on Italian Typhoons

The Italian Air Force deployed its F-2000 Typhoons equipped with Meteor missiles to Romania for the NATO Enhanced Air Policing. The Italian Air Force has

theaviationist.com

If we actually had it porkis would've never dared come close to the strike package. We struck their radar sites with kamikaze drones on 8th and used stand-off missiles to simultaneously target their air bases on 9th and10th.
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Take whatever WLVN says with a truckload of salt, that person ain't reliable.
Also IAF isn't stupid to sit around till 2025 waiting for its Rafales to be operational with Meteor.
The below news is from 2019 when IAF had Meteor deliveries to be fastracked in light of the 2019 aerial skirmishes.

Redirect Notice

 

[Roshan]

Paki AWAAAM thinks they have Zero losses

As no debris was recovered.

They think Tom Cooper is Islamophobe ( this is your Reddit Pakis and over seas ones )

They have argument for every thing you throw against them

BECAUSE THE DAMMAGE WAS NOT UNDIABLE

Excelpt Bholari and Sahabaz ( may be Kirana Hills )

All strikes were symbolic by IAF


To avenge Rafale, you hit Hangars of J 10 in PAF Kamra , ( PAF had no hesitation to attack Golden Temple or Warehouse or S400 at Adampur )

Mutiple Nuclear bases in Karachi ( PAF Faisal , Masroor )

Tom Cooper even said , Navy was ready with Mig 29 and Rampage

Your barometer for ascertaining what losses Pakis took can't seriously be what Pakis themselves think they took lol. They are capable of claiming they disabled a just because it hit it's target and that target was not high value enough just because it happened to be hit.
And yes I suppose if one wants to look for dark clouds in silver linings then the fact that they are nor completely annihilated as a state after a limited campaign can be spun off as damage that is not UNDENIABLE. There is no shortage of cope in this world for those who are determined to look for it ans enough excuses for those determined to whine and get anxious over the fact that these same people are coping and not miserable.

 

[LastMythin]

Just label any cross question as a Paki

And pretend "All is Well "

As per your logic, PAF should be dumb and have less AWACS ( they are also poorer )

Why IAF had to do A2G strike and not G2G

Calling dissent as Paki is nice face saving.

Has an active space prgram, missiles but still has to use Rafale to show off

And get 1 Rafale shot

Muh

Cross

Questioning

Means

Parrotting

Porki

Propaganda

About

Muh

PAF

Superiority

Again bhosdapill smarter pyare, you are giving yourself away too quickly