Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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The amount of outrage against CDS by our own countrymen including Social media is outrageous.

If CDS said a word Tactical mistake - Its not blunder. Its what confident Armies do.

Remember OP Vijay in Kargil- We lost 2 Patrolling teams initially who were sent to Rece the situation. It was hidden from the country for 2 weeks when our intelligence and forces sat down to understand the actual ground situation. Intelligence and Military made a mistake initially and tried to cover it by brut force when our jets and choppers were shot down by Stingers. That's when mistake was accepted and correction was done.

In OP Sin-door - Initial strike was well planned and rehearsed. Even the correct mapping of AD situation with multiple mobile assets of Pakis was done. It was a courageous and daring mission undertaken in most electronically congested airspace. Not 01 but 09 Targets were struck. Whole of Fizaliya could not prevent it.

What was the Tactical disadvantage CDS is talking about on 6-7 MAY ??. No body knows until more details come out.

Even if one detail was missing in the picture the correction was done in 24 Hours. A single launcher of a SAM battery could have been missed by our initial ELNIT ops or SAT-INTEL might have not picked up - no one knows. Whatever Tactical shortcoming was there was rectified.

CDS has been brave enough to portrait the complete picture.

Pakis have been given a reality check with Airbases getting struck + Nuclear facility getting threatened. Let them cope with it.
 
Losing fighters is not a big deal but giving bytes to foreign media out of turn and coming up with absurd rationale like "tactical mistakes" is the problem
Government should seriously consider putting an embargo on in-service generols to speak in media . Only media operation team is allowed to speak to media .
Bro - Have u read

"Ready, Relevant and Resurgent: A Blueprint for the Transformation of India's Military"​

 
pakis lost their saab 2000 maintenance team in which their sq leader was also killed.
If they had a legitimate opposition like us, they would have asked hard questions.

It's great India has such environment where we can question the methodology of the govt and defense forces, so next time a proper SEAD/DEAD ops will take place.

Any day Op Sindoor was way better coordinated than Op Chaddi Baniyaan.
 
Lol , why were the Erieye marked as Hi Teach HVT

Why Bholari hangar was hit specifically

AWACS advantage is a real thing , unless you are coping hard to prove otherwise

Phalcon is even getting old with Illyushin platform.

Airbus is arking money ( but Chindi GoI is trying to act frugal )

Where is a dedicated EW jet by IAF ?

PAF used their Dassault Falcon as Blinder
Completely wrong analysis. If AWACS was considered so vital, the armed forces would have bought a few off the shelf. India does not feel the need for AWACS for Pakistan probably because they already have complete radar coverage through other means such as satellites, P8i platforms, overlapping ground radars etc. IAF would not have flown without being assured that there was enough air space visibility despite jamming efforts. If India can spend $3-4 billion dollars to purchase MQ9B predators, buying a few stop gap AWACS is nothing. The reality is need for AWACS is not being felt.
 
What is bad faith is callng out incompetence.

If India has good edge with Pak it wouldn’t have to really too much on diplomacy.

If India has to improve first step
Is to digest the problem

Which many at DFB fail to do

Does Israel have to beg validation and diplomacy

Nope, you have been acting like a rank asshole since the day you joined. There are dedicated threads with pages after pages of discussions over the IAF and their procurement policies. But you keep defecating here regardless.

They struck pakroach heartland, took out their radars, runways. Their hangar queens got taken out by our bad boys and brahmos ate those crappy ching chong air defense systems for breakfast. Lawhore, Pindi, Sialkot got gangbanged by our loitering munitions/ brahmos while mominas kept crying "Allah khair kary" on social media. Even a fucking underground nuke storage facility got struck - not even the burgerboys can boast of a feat like that.

And the best part? Goatfuckers filmed it all and uploaded them on social media for us all to view and j*rk off to. And thoroughly complemented their videos with those sweet "Ya allah raham kary" screams in the background.

And yet, you, being the cunt you are, continue to peddle rr over them shooting down 786 of our roohani black jets. Do you think nobody sees through your crap?
 
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Few hypotheticals that comes to mind because we have now accepted aircraft loss but not the type or numbers.The reason could be:

1. we employed decoy targets which gives the multiple radar imprints to enemy but they were all shot down

2. or could be advanced electronic warfare pods which gave multiple radar pings but there was one or two fighter aircrafts that was emitting it.

this could be the tactical problem where the decoys being used did not deter the homing missiles to hit the aircraft.

But this was rectified and it is a trade secret that air force will never give out now about how they did what they did. But whatever they did after that night just ripped a new one for the Pigs.
 
The amount of outrage against CDS by our own countrymen including Social media is outrageous.

If CDS said a word Tactical mistake - Its not blunder. Its what confident Armies do.

Remember OP Vijay in Kargil- We lost 2 Patrolling teams initially who were sent to Rece the situation. It was hidden from the country for 2 weeks when our intelligence and forces sat down to understand the actual ground situation. Intelligence and Military made a mistake initially and tried to cover it by brut force when our jets and choppers were shot down by Stingers. That's when mistake was accepted and correction was done.

In OP Sin-door - Initial strike was well planned and rehearsed. Even the correct mapping of AD situation with multiple mobile assets of Pakis was done. It was a courageous and daring mission undertaken in most electronically congested airspace. Not 01 but 09 Targets were struck. Whole of Fizaliya could not prevent it.

What was the Tactical disadvantage CDS is talking about on 6-7 MAY ??. No body knows until more details come out.

Even if one detail was missing in the picture the correction was done in 24 Hours. A single launcher of a SAM battery could have been missed by our initial ELNIT ops or SAT-INTEL might have not picked up - no one knows. Whatever Tactical shortcoming was there was rectified.

CDS has been brave enough to portrait the complete picture.

Pakis have been given a reality check with Airbases getting struck + Nuclear facility getting threatened. Let them cope with it.
I still don’t think you understand what people are saying. No one cares about losses - aircraft or not. It is the timing, venue, news media, articulation, narrative building etc that people are calling out. Just because he is a CDS, does not mean he is good at communications.
 
Losing fighters is not a big deal but giving bytes to foreign media out of turn and coming up with absurd rationale like "tactical mistakes" is the problem
Government should seriously consider putting an embargo on in-service generols to speak in media . Only media operation team is allowed to speak to media .
so people have been shouting at our military that they did not go to CNN or reuters like the Pigs and their DGISPR did during the Ops... Now When they do that they still shout hoarse!
 
Wrong , child !

Airbus and MoD has negotiation deadlock ( read IDRW )

The Airbus ones are in limbo

Embrarer delivered 6 jets to HAL Bangalore plant ( seen on Google earth )

A 330 based ( Phalcon replacement is still a dream )
A low IQ, know-nothing teenager acting like the cunt he is calling others child 😂😂😂😂😂
I guess I have seen it all.
People here from the DFI days know how credible IDRW really is.
 
Losing fighters is not a big deal but giving bytes to foreign media out of turn and coming up with absurd rationale like "tactical mistakes" is the problem
Government should seriously consider putting an embargo on in-service generols to speak in media . Only media operation team is allowed to speak to media .
I have a gut feeling that the second phase of Operation Sindoor is coming. Civil mock drills were conducted today in the border districts
 
What is bad faith is callng out incompetence.

If India has good edge with Pak it wouldn’t have to really too much on diplomacy.

If India has to improve first step
Is to digest the problem

Which many at DFB fail to do

Does Israel have to beg validation and diplomacy
There is some logic to what you say. Note we never had a reliable domestic manufacturing setup. Even now there are significant gaps in materials technology and engine development. Also, we are focused more on growing the economy unlike Pakistan which is descending into chaos, and needs to be a security state to fight it out. Israel is top notch because they constantly face threats and must develop advanced technology to beat the threats. We do not face anything like that.
 
so people have been shouting at our military that they did not go to CNN or reuters like the Pigs and their DGISPR did during the Ops... Now When they do that they still shout hoarse!
DGISPR translates to Director General of Inter services public relations. I don't know how you compare PR firm with an unprepared Genrool..
If IA media wing goes and gives interview no problem but what he did today is a big problem.
 
The amount of outrage against CDS by our own countrymen including Social media is outrageous.

If CDS said a word Tactical mistake - Its not blunder. Its what confident Armies do.

Remember OP Vijay in Kargil- We lost 2 Patrolling teams initially who were sent to Rece the situation. It was hidden from the country for 2 weeks when our intelligence and forces sat down to understand the actual ground situation. Intelligence and Military made a mistake initially and tried to cover it by brut force when our jets and choppers were shot down by Stingers. That's when mistake was accepted and correction was done.

In OP Sin-door - Initial strike was well planned and rehearsed. Even the correct mapping of AD situation with multiple mobile assets of Pakis was done. It was a courageous and daring mission undertaken in most electronically congested airspace. Not 01 but 09 Targets were struck. Whole of Fizaliya could not prevent it.

What was the Tactical disadvantage CDS is talking about on 6-7 MAY ??. No body knows until more details come out.

Even if one detail was missing in the picture the correction was done in 24 Hours. A single launcher of a SAM battery could have been missed by our initial ELNIT ops or SAT-INTEL might have not picked up - no one knows. Whatever Tactical shortcoming was there was rectified.

CDS has been brave enough to portrait the complete picture.

Pakis have been given a reality check with Airbases getting struck + Nuclear facility getting threatened. Let them cope with it.
Why is CDS making these claims for the first time to foreign media in a foreign country?

Sorry. but it's justified outrage on that point.
 

mirza is chairman joint chiefs of staff.​

incase folks have only heard the expression "Pakistan negotiates with you by putting the gun on its own head" and never actually heard what it sounds like, can listen to his parts in this discussion/speech.

this discussion is also at shangri la.

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IISS Shangri-La Dialogue 2025 | Session 2: Regional Crisis-Management Mechanisms​



View: https://youtu.be/UR0-tL2gWrg
 
At least to deal napak fauj we need a bolliwoodiya type general that can come online at 2 AM and make phrases like

"We will surprise you"
"Now you just wait for our reply"
"Pakistan has launched missiles on Karachi this is a very absurd behavior by enemy"
 
At least to deal napak fauj we need a bolliwoodiya type general that can come online at 2 AM and make phrases like

"We will surprise you"
"Now you just wait for our reply"
"Pakistan has launched missiles on Karachi this is a very absurd behavior by enemy"
Everything should be professional
A well prepared media team to speak on behalf of military (not the Nari shakti type bullshit)

All the political objectives should only be released by political leadership and no other.

Anyone speaking out of turn should be made example of
 
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