Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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Why was PL15 not able to stick to ejector rails of j10C - Why it fell off in India intact?

There are two stupid statements above. One of them has evidence and another doesn't. Question for you: Which one is it?
I think there enough chatter about the Rafale loss on the official side, the earlier we accept it the better. No point in beating around the bush, and there is no harm in losing the jet when you are on the offensive. The PAF are not some ragtag militia and we weren't supposed to come back unharmed.
The important question that we should be now asking is if the Rafale was lost(which we will eventually get an official answer), why did it fail to properly engage PL15 or HQ9 effectively.
Where are the gaps that needs to be addressed.
 
Irrespective of that, its a valid question that why was Spectra not able to jam/handle PL15, when it is considered one of the most advanced integrated electronic warfare (EW) suites.
No PL15 has hit anything...already clarified by Print video, a few IAF jets down because of SAM/Friendly fire
 
I don't know why these chomus (babus and netas) are not declaring the loses and only giving tidbits here and there .These guys turned themselves into laughing stock .
Now even French confirmed that Rafale was downed ..
 
@Brood Father don't know why I can't reply to your message directly to quote it.

This is a question put forward by an MP to French MEA based on open source intel.

It's like quoting Rahul Gandhi asking insane questions and saying GoI has confirmed chowkidar chor hai.

Just because someone highlighted some sections doesn't mean you don't need to read anything else from that screenshot.
 
for you lot that guy is basically a god.
you lot have been consistent in your loyalties, before, during and after we fked pakis.
and it aint to India.
Yes we did fcked them and I am not arguing that .I am more concerned about this hush hush approach of not declaring our loses . This is not looking good . If they have declared loses on day 1 everybody would have moved on by now and we would not be in this position where every tom dick and harry is coming up with theories .
 
wanted to write something on these lines for sometime, this one written using grok.
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Your Mind Needs to Be a Fortress


Amid the resolute efforts of Operation Sindoor, where Bharat’s armed forces stand as unwavering guardians of the nation’s borders, a parallel and insidious battle unfolds—one targeting the consciousness of its citizens. This is not solely a military conflict but a psychological war waged by adversaries, notably Pakistan and their allies, to breach your sense of security and destabilize the dharma (righteous order) of Bharat. The Bhartiya Rashtra and its valiant soldiers protect the physical frontiers, but you, the public, are indispensable stakeholders in this struggle. Your mind must be a fortress, steadfast and impregnable, rooted in the eternal wisdom of Dharmic scriptures and the resolute vision of thinkers like Vinayak Damodar Savarkar and Swami Vivekananda. As the Manusmriti proclaims, “Dharmo rakshati rakshitah” (8.15)—dharma protects those who protect it. Yet, a caution must be heeded: do not become so distracted by trivial provocations that you leave the backdoor of your mental fortress unguarded, vulnerable to manipulation over matters insignificant in the grand tapestry of dharma.

The Silent Assault on Dharma​

Operation Sindoor has illuminated a critical reality: the battlefield extends beyond physical borders into the realm of thought and perception. Adversaries seek to erode Bharat’s unity and resilience through misinformation, fear, and divisive narratives, aiming to fracture the ekatvam (oneness) that defines the nation’s dharma. The Mundaka Upanishad declares, “Satyameva jayate” (3.1.6)—truth alone triumphs. In this psychological war, your commitment to satyam (truth) is the shield that safeguards Bharat’s dharma from the onslaught of deceit.


The public is not a passive observer but a dharmarakshak (protector of dharma) in this silent conflict. Every falsehood you refute, every divisive narrative you challenge, and every act of unity you foster strengthens the nation’s spiritual core. The Bhartiya Rashtra provides the strategic framework for security, but it is your adherence to satyam and dharma that fortifies Bharat’s soul. As Swami Vivekananda asserted, “Strength is life, weakness is death” (Complete Works, Vol. 5). Your mental fortitude is the cornerstone of this sacred duty to protect the nation’s dharma.

Building a Mental Fortress for Dharma​

To counter this insidious assault, your mind must be a kila—a fortress anchored in the timeless principles of Dharmic scriptures and wisdom. The Taittiriya Upanishad instructs, “Satyam vada, dharmam chara” (1.11.1)—speak the truth, walk the path of righteousness. In an era where misinformation proliferates, this maxim demands discernment akin to a jnani (knower). Verify information, question narratives that sow discord, and root yourself in credible sources. The Bhagavad Gita counsels, “Yogah karmasu kaushalam” (BG 2.50)—excellence in action is yoga. Let your actions in rejecting propaganda reflect this excellence, safeguarding the dharma of truth.


Resilience is the foundation of this mental fortress. Adversaries exploit fear and doubt to weaken resolve, but the Mahabharata reminds us, “Na bhayam vidyate kvacit” (Udyoga Parva 5.33.23)—there is no fear for one who upholds dharma. Trust in the strength of Bharat’s institutions, the valor of its people, and the eternal principles of dharma. Savarkar’s words resonate: “The nation that has no consciousness of its past has no future” (Essentials of Hindutva). Draw upon Bharat’s ancient wisdom to fortify your spirit, ensuring your mind remains a bastion of dharmic resolve.


A caution is imperative: do not let petty distractions—minor grievances or fleeting provocations—divert your focus. The Shanti Parva of the Mahabharata warns, “Kshudram hridayadaurbalyam” (12.139.20)—small weaknesses of the heart can lead to ruin. Becoming overly upset by trivial matters risks leaving the backdoor of your mental fortress unguarded, allowing adversaries to exploit these vulnerabilities with their divisive tactics. Stay vigilant, prioritizing the larger dharmic purpose over insignificant slights.

The Public as Custodians of Dharma​

The notion that only the armed forces or the Bhartiya Rashtra bear responsibility for Bharat’s security is a grave misconception. Every citizen is a dharmayoddha (warrior of dharma). Spreading unverified information weakens the dharma of unity; allowing divisive narratives to take root undermines the sangathan (organization) that is Bharat’s strength. By upholding truth and fostering unity, you protect the nation’s dharma. The Yajurveda declares, “Satyam brihad ritam ugram” (34.43)—truth is vast and invincible. Let this truth guide you in countering psychological warfare.


Savarkar’s vision of a united Bharat emphasizes collective strength: “A Hindu means a person who regards this land… as his Fatherland as well as his Holyland” (Hindutva, 1923). As stakeholders in this sacred land, your duty is to protect its dharma by ensuring your mind remains untainted by manipulation. The Gita reinforces this: “Uddhared atmanatmanam” (BG 6.5)—uplift yourself by yourself. Elevate your consciousness through dharmic vigilance, but remain cautious not to be swayed by minor distractions that could compromise your resolve.

A Sacred Call to Protect Dharma​

Operation Sindoor underscores that national security is a shared responsibility, rooted in dharma. The Bhartiya Rashtra lays the strategic foundation, but you, the public, are the soul of this defense. Make your mind a fortress, impregnable to falsehoods and division. The Manusmriti reminds us, “Dharmo vishwasya jagatah pratishtaa” (8.15)—dharma is the foundation of the world’s trust. By protecting dharma in thought and action, you ensure Bharat’s unity and strength.


In this battle for perception, let the wisdom of Dharmic scriptures and the resolute spirit of Vivekananda and Savarkar guide you. “Dharmo hi paramo loke” (Mahabharata, Shanti Parva 12.167.9)—dharma is the supreme principle in this world. Guard against distractions that could weaken your focus, for as the Gita warns, “Samah sarveshu bhuteshu” (BG 18.54)—equanimity in all situations is the mark of a steadfast mind. With a mind fortified by satyam and dharma, and a vigilant eye on the backdoor of your resolve, you become an unbreakable pillar of Bharat’s defense, ensuring the nation stands tall, united, and invincible.​
 
@Brood Father don't know why I can't reply to your message directly to quote it.

This is a question put forward by an MP to French MEA based on open source intel.

It's like quoting Rahul Gandhi asking insane questions and saying GoI has confirmed chowkidar chor hai.

Just because someone highlighted some sections doesn't mean you don't need to read anything else from that screenshot.
Yes you are right but this document is touted as official source . If our system would have released the numbers then this stupid thing won't have mattered
This will now circulate in NYT ,Wapo and what not
Sunlight is the best disinfectant, all these pests would simply die of we are honest about our loses
Or lie but then stick to your lie
This approach is worst of two worlds and is now the center of discussion
 
Yes we did fcked them and I am not arguing that .I am more concerned about this hush hush approach of not declaring our loses . This is not looking good . If they have declared loses on day 1 everybody would have moved on by now and we would not be in this position where every tom dick and harry is coming up with theories .

We will release them when we have to, why the hurry?
'the operation officially is not over', exactly which part of that is not understood.
 
Sameer's channel was deleted he had to start a new one
How did government help him?
Also WhatsApp group of Hindus are more inclined towards giving a bj to west rather than look inwards
Temples aren't the same anymore and we have no organisation to fight this modern war
Kuch na kuch to karna padega,inko follow karo inko share karo, most importantly inse seekho, honestly the moment aap palat ke in channels ke content se anti Hindu's ko counter karne lagoge unke munh pe chupi chha jaayegi
 
Yes you are right but this document is touted as official source . If our system would have released the numbers then this stupid thing won't have mattered
This will now circulate in NYT ,Wapo and what not
Sunlight is the best disinfectant, all these pests would simply die of we are honest about our loses
Or lie but then stick to your lie
This approach is worst of two worlds and is now the center of discussion
You said French confirmed Rafale was lost. This isn't confirmation. Who is touting this as official sources of this?

Do you think random MP from Jhumri Talaiyya has info about a loss of B2 bomber of America?

There was no word of any Rafale by GOI. All of it is cooked up by Pakistan and other lobbies. If for example, tomorrow a ship is lost in some operation, does GoI have to come and say, Rafale wasn't lost when a ship went down? Hell, if GoI comes tomorrow and says "No Rafale lost", do you think that will convince those who are already convinced Indianlosr bajillion aircraft?

France has their sabouteurs and Muslims. The MP might just be paid to ask this. There is absolutely no confirmation.
 
You said French confirmed Rafale was lost. This isn't confirmation. Who is touting this as official sources of this?

Do you think random MP from Jhumri Talaiyya has info about a loss of B2 bomber of America?

There was no word of any Rafale by GOI. All of it is cooked up by Pakistan and other lobbies. If for example, tomorrow a ship is lost in some operation, does GoI have to come and say, Rafale wasn't lost when a ship went down? Hell, if GoI comes tomorrow and says "No Rafale lost", do you think that will convince those who are already convinced Indianlosr bajillion aircraft?

France has their sabouteurs and Muslims. The MP might just be paid to ask this. There is absolutely no confirmation.
Ok ..I may have been careless in looking for authenticity of the document but it won't change the situation
If today government says No Rafales lost .. I will believe my government over anyone else and that would give the credibility and weight behind it to counter all other "sources"
Even if we lie about it and stick to it will be OK but the pickle we are in is very special one where everyone but the GOI has its own theories and the most outlandish ones are seeing the light of the day
 
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