Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (67 Viewers)

grapes are sour.

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ost ignorant fools and desh drohi are happy or just over optimistic. They think their mosa ji will save their arse during next war.

Fifth generation is fifth generation for a reason. Pakistani airforce will be having better hardware integrated with Chinese satellite and systems.
Indian amca is too far away 15 20 30 or May be 50 years. Who knows if it will happen or not. India have no airframe no satellite network no engine. Nothing. It’s going to be Tejas 2.0. Unless something magical happens.

New’s is right now. To do something. India have no stealth ucav.

Dreamland babies 👶. India is in a soup and need something for stop gap. Forget about amca do that experiment separate.
 
India has no satellite network ?? Man what drugs you are on ..pass me that ..
Who said that ? I said Pakistan will have Chinese network of satellite. So they might be able to use some system of chini Air Force as well.
As for amca we will have to install a few satellite for network integration of system . I.e make those squadron act like one unit.

It’s a part of fifth gen fighter.

China already have it we will have to integrate. No doubt isro will do it but some drdo research work will be done.

So amca is very very very very very very very far. Just like in 2003 everyone WA’s saying Tejas will come out soon in months.

Pad le bhai. Goli ke jaise kud padte ho.
India awwwwaaa baaa baaannn baaan baaa?
 
Bjp supporters started blaming IAF for may 7 ROE rules and loss of planes.Truth is Jaishankar clearly told we are targeting terrorists only not Pakistan military. we should ask questions to govt for farce roe and loss of planes
No, BJP supporters have been breathing down Modi's neck for every little issue that there has been, related to this war.

I hate how Congress supporters start trying to weasel their way into productive discussions to try to pin the blame on BJP and maybe score some supporters for the party which gave away 93000 POWs without asking for anything worth a damn in return.

Hush. Don't try to poison the well. BJP has done incredibly well in calling the nuclear bluff and given the Armed forces a very healthy level of freedom in conducting it's business. Far more than Congress which tuck it's tail after 26/11.

Again, BJP did way more for 26 lives than Congress did for more than a hundred.

Don't try to sell your chooran here. No one's buying.

I hate how scummy and desperate these guys get.

You're talking about farce ROE here.
What was the ROE? Can you tell me?

You're talking about loss of planes? What, you think planes are indestructible? Pakistanis have lost more planes than us but nooo, BJP bad, Mudi must rejine.

Reminder- BJP did way more for one terror attack than Congress EVER did for thousands.
 
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TTP learning drone warfare before kashmiri militants should be their biggest threat.
Let them buy those expensive toys, it will take one well executed attack from BLA-TTP to turn their jets into burning corpses
They are doing an operation in Balochistan
India made a mistake by giving pakistan a breather
 
This is fascinating to you?
Majority of Kanglus believe they can defeat India and annex our Bengal and the north east :bplease:

The green cannot into reality, he can only into delulu, look at the pelastinians in Gaza, you ask your average Abdul there and he will say they are "winning" against da jooz.
All this is because India doesn't spank these countries enough occasionally.

Too long have we gone without wars in the neighborhood.
 
Oh btw and you were talking about >muh reputation of Janes in some other thread, waise Reuters, FT, CNN etc all have this ((( reputation ))) but doesn't stop them from running articles from ISI Journalists 👇
Jane's is not your regular news media outlet. It is a purely defence oriented platform focusing on defence , intelligence , geo strategy , etc as opposed to geo politics , economics , financial markets , cultural & society issues , etc .

Therefore it operates in a very niche market for a highly sophisticated readership usually restricted to militaries , diplomatic corps , TTs, Academia etc & is a subscriber based platform. Further those subscriptions cost a bomb unaffordable to lay folk like you & me .

It's very rare for one to come across an article from Jane's in its full form which isn't behind a paywall.

So what you're suggesting vis a vis Jane's isn't a feature like it has now become with "reputed " news media organisations like Reuters , WaPo , NYT etc surviving on past glory , but a bug .
 

Listen to the sad attempts at drawing parallels with Gaza.
60000 Kids from rubbles of schools. (Source: Absolute ass pull)
1 missile per residential area. (Source: More ass pull)
400 missiles per 80 planes. (Source: Ass tear)


What kind of retarded airforce would ignore military targets to bomb schools and bahria town?
I mean, maybe DHA corner plots but why?

And the retarded westerners will be sitting in a corner nodding their heads like the retards that they've always been.
 
Listen to the sad attempts at drawing parallels with Gaza.
60000 Kids from rubbles of schools. (Source: Absolute ass pull)
1 missile per residential area. (Source: More ass pull)
400 missiles per 80 planes. (Source: Ass tear)


What kind of retarded airforce would ignore military targets to bomb schools and bahria town?
I mean, maybe DHA corner plots but why?

And the retarded westerners will be sitting in a corner nodding their heads like the retards that they've always been.
All his lies can be busted if india releases that most of our strike package was just drones and decoys to fool their ad and jets.
 
All his lies can be busted if india releases that most of our strike package was just drones and decoys to fool their ad and jets.
And the ADHD Tik Tok addicted western crowd will be tuned in the entire time.

No, the damage will be done and then clarifications will just be damage control.

India needs to figure out it's narrative game while not at war. Honestly, the Indian people know the truth of the conflict and have their head in the right place so when the war begins, I don't value this narrative game as much but these do shape the battlespace a little bit.

But when there's no war going on, are you telling me our think tanks, media houses, information ministry and intelligence is still task saturated?
What's the point of sitting around then?

Get a control of the narrative in the meanwhile, at least.
 
There can be 2 possibilities, one zdk-03 was seen in satellite images during operations, maybe their retirement was a ruse to obfuscate capabilities until needed. Or the other possibility which I think is more likely is that they were able to integrate Chinese radars like JY-27 and HQ-9 search and fire control radar into a fused air picture and used Chinese data link from ground station (C4 centers) to provide updates to PL-15 either directly or via UAV relay. Maybe that's why IAF went after C4 infrastructure at Nur Khan and Murid airbases. Also, what supports this possibility is that PAF wasn't effective later on as IAF conducted SEAD thus degrading their air picture even though their AEW&Cs would still be on station.

Re guiding an Active Radar seeker BVR missile, they need mid course guidance to be effective at long ranges until they go pitbull. Even PL15 ku band AESA seeker, has a seeker cone of around 6 degree and can only see targets in around 6-8 km deviation from last known target update when they go active at about 15-20 km from target. I think getting a hit at 150km+ with just initial INS is pretty much impossible for fighter targets.
You are spewing uttern nonesense. AWACS can't guide missiles. AWACS are eyes spotters but not targetters. AWACS radars have less resolution than those needed by missiles to hit a target. What it means is AWACS aren't accurate enough for target.
They can guide the missile in direction of target but thats it. Homing has to be done by Missile or the FA.
 

View: https://youtu.be/Arb-PKN4ErE?si=o-Wa3s5ovqdGCOVx

Extremely animated & explosive podcast hosted by Shoma Chaudhury featuring ex Ambassador TCA Raghavan & Bharat Karnad.

What struck me most about this podcast was not the diametrically opposite positions both the guests took , which was mostly on expected lines but the way the hollowness of Raghavan's & by extension the foreign establishment's outdated position comes across quite clearly pitched as it is against Karnad's brutally honest if ambitious pragmatism.

To all the Millenials & Gen Z guys here the former's position is what guided not only our foreign policy but also our world view for the most part of our ~ 80 years journey including during ABV's tenure & the initial part of present incumbent's term . Some out here would argue it still does.

More to the point it was the accepted norm whereas Karnad's position was always greeted by sneers , charges of adventurism & hawkishness besides being the target of ridicule in the past . I'm glad to report that what he suggests now or even suggested earlier ( in that manner he's been remarkably consistent ) is no longer viewed as outlandish or impossible at least by this generation .

Raghavan's frustration was evident given the many contradictions in his position was exposed ( he's actually admitted there's little we can do about Paxtan which is another way of saying let's move on after 26/11 & focus on the economy . At another point he says the abrogation of the IWT is good coz it sends a message even if we can't do much on the ground to change the situation given our geographical disadvantages & so on ) & which used to be unquestioned earlier including in this podcast where he got away lightly .

Tells one a great deal about how & why the Congress completely lost the plot in the 10 years they were in power on a lot of issues especially Paxtan .

Must watch episode IMO !
 

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