Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (67 Viewers)

IRDefense said:
Career officials (deep state) can subtly influence policy by driving a certain narrative but taking US to war is Trumps decision. I am just pointing out that he is in no mood to do it, not even for Israel until a month ago.

Trump may not be able to stop Russia, India or even Isarel if they want want to go to war, but they will certainly try & protect their personnel. I am guessing the recent move is in anticipation of an Israeli strike & its aftermath.

I see the admin's new found love for Pak as payback for ties with Russia, & negotiating wrt trade & weapons. Give us a good trade deal & buy more of our weapons else we prop up Pakistan.
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You underestimate the deep state. When Trump was against them the last time, they sabotaged him and almost put him behind bars. This time he is toeing the line.

Trump can't really stop Israel, but if Iran hits Israel, will be able to withstand the internal pressure to not intervene?

You can give US anything and they will demand more. They will prop up Porkies no matter what we do. Best to ignore them.
 
If they are going to strike Iran, there can only be one reason. No, it is not because they want to protect Israel. I was just looking at the map and it all made sense about US actions in the last 15 years.

You all may remember during NATO summit in 2008, deep state mofos in USA openly called for inducting Georgia and Ukraine into NATO. While Ukraine was in Kremlin's hands they were not sure about Georgia. Putin made it a point to invade Georgia and send a message to NATO.

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Russo-Georgian War - Wikipedia

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Russia after cold war long complained NATO's expansion to the East which made no sense for them other than poke trouble for Russia in the long term. Everything was going as per plan. US deep state mofos perfectly planned to oust Ukraine's President Viktor Yanukovych who was a Moscow puppet. And they struck in 2014 in the name of regime change. Putin just annexed Crimea and some eastern parts of Ukraine. When everything was going to plan, Trump came out of nowhere. Deep state mofos did not know how to handle him. If you remember during Trump's first term he repeatedly said "Can't we just get along with Russia?". Russia was basically demonized during his first term in their media. He made lot of friendly overtures to Russia which is completely absent in his second term.

They waited until Trump is gone. Biden was just a continuation of Obama. Deep state continued their antics and Putin smelled it right away and hence the Ukraine invasion. Now why am I saying all this? If you been recently looking at America's deficit it is getting out of hand. They are stretching their balance sheet way too much which has made other countries to lose confidence in US dollar. In addition to that, they are weaponizing dollar.

You invade Iran, you get access to Turkmenistan. Remember TAPI pipeline? where we were supposed to get gas from Turkmenistan transiting through Afghanistan and Pakistan. Iran borders Turkmenistan. Invade Iran, topple the regime. Just like after Iraq invasion, bring Iran into US dollar orbit. If you see the map this will trouble Russia in the long term as it will give US access to Caspian sea. They are fucking surrounding Russia slowly one country at a time. Deep state this time was ready for Trump. Not a single squeak about him being a Russian agent in their media this time. All this will bolster US dollar until 2100 at the very least.
 
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concard said:
If they are going to strike Iran, there can only be one reason. No, it is not because they want to protect Israel. I was just looking at the map and it all made sense about US actions in the last 15 years.

You all may remember during NATO summit in 2008, deep state mofos in USA openly called for inducting Georgia and Ukraine into NATO. While Ukraine was in Kremlin's hands they were not sure about Georgia. Putin made it a point to invade Georgia and send a message to NATO.

en.wikipedia.org

Russo-Georgian War - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Russia after cold war long complained NATO's expansion to the East which made no sense for them other than poke trouble for Russia in the long term. Everything was going as per plan. US deep state mofos perfectly planned to oust Ukraine's President Viktor Yanukovych who was a Moscow puppet. And they struck in 2014 in the name of regime change. Putin just annexed Crimea and some eastern parts of Ukraine. When everything was going to plan, Trump came out of nowhere. Deep state mofos did not know how to handle him. If you remember during Trump's first term he repeatedly said "Can't we just get along with Russia?". Russia was basically demonized during his first term in their media. He made lot of friendly overtures to Russia which is completely absent in his second term.

They waited until Trump is gone. Biden was just a continuation of Obama. Deep state continued their antics and Putin smelled it right away and hence the Ukraine invasion. Now why am I saying all this? If you been recently looking at America's deficit it is getting out of hand. They are stretching their balance sheet way too much which has made other countries to lose confidence in US dollar. In addition to that, they are weaponizing dollar.

You invade Iran, you get access to Turkmenistan. Remember TAPI pipeline? where we were supposed to get gas from Turkmenistan transiting through Afghanistan and Pakistan. Iran borders Turkmenistan. Invade Iran, topple the regime. Just like after Iraq invasion, bring Iran into US dollar orbit. If you see the map this will trouble Russia in the long term as it will give US access to Caspian sea. They are fucking surrounding Russia slowly one country after another. Deep state this time was ready for Trump. Not a single squeak about him being a Russian agent in their media this time. All this will bolster US dollar until 2100 at the very least.
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Correct, they have been doing this for a long time, Putin had enough in case of Georgia and invaded it.
They have two tracks, one is regime change the ex-Soviet places neighboring Russia.
The other is regime changing Russia itself.

The second track failed in 2012 with Putya winning the election and apply danda, serving polonium tea and tossing out regime change artists from windows.
They tried with Navalny also but Putya had him killed in jail.

The first track found a success with Ukraine in 2014 but when they tried with Belarus in 2021/22 they failed and now Belarus is a Russian puppet.

The current Ukraine invasion meat grinder is a partial success because it long term fucks Russia but still hasn't resulted in a regime change of Putya,


A similar scheme is being tried here, Hasina's ouster isn't only for the sole purpose of using Kangludesh to regime change Burma and then China from there, it is intended towards India also.
 
vampyrbladez said:
Truth is stranger than fiction. Something was hit at Nur Khan airbase and a BrahMos hit Kirana Hills.

Within hours, US forced Pakis to go for ceasefire with India. DGMO level talks followed by a 'suspension of hostilities' happened.
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I think Pakistan might have started signaling that they are mobilizing nukes by moving things or communication traffic, India then stuck C2 infra at Nur Khan (Kinetic for sure), PAF Murid C2 + storage (Kinetic? or Demonstrative?) and Kirana storage (Demonstrative).

I think India's NFU treats imminent first strike (preparation) as sufficient condition for responding, these strikes may have been part of demonstrating or proving that to Pakistan.

PAF Murid:

View: https://x.com/DfIlite/status/1362323335078547457
 
vampyrbladez said:
Did the Americans have their jets at that base or some other strategic asset?
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I don't think so. Americans may have built the Nur Khan C2 facility, provided permissive action link and assistance for other nuclear infrastructure. Their primary intention is to secure Pakistani nukes from non state actors or rogue use within SPD.
 
A Chauhan said:
If you have enough funds then you have increased chances of success.
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This puts you in a catch-22 situation. For every rupee you spend on stealth R&D, you have 1 rupee less to spend on strategic weapon programs

The question is which project will Govt prioritize, strategic programs like hypersonic missiles, ASAT, MIRV SLBM etc which cannot be purchased or stealth fighter jets which can be purchased
 
Oldworld said:
This puts you in a catch-22 situation. For every rupee you spend on stealth R&D, you have 1 rupee less to spend on strategic weapon programs

The question is which project will Govt prioritize, strategic programs like hypersonic missiles, ASAT, MIRV SLBM etc which cannot be purchased or stealth fighter jets which can be purchased
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They can pursue both. They have the financial muscle to do that. Do not let the chindi gormint get away with their pathetic track record.
 
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crazywithmath said:
They can pursue both. They have the financial muscle to do that. Do not let the chindi gormint get away with their pathetic track record.
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End of the day there is always a scarcity problem and you have to make choices

If not in development, then in production
 
Haven't been keeping up with the daily developments here, so don't know if this was discussed already, but I've been thinking. What if the reason the US was so keen on a ceasefire, and why they've suddenly put out positive statements and gestures towards Pakistan is all related to a single purpose - use them in what looks like an imminent conflict with Iran?

Obviously India hammering Pakistan in that situation would have put a real spanner in their works. If this is the case, India should passively and quietly help Iran to an extent. Any regime the US would look to forcibly impose there would likely be horrible for Indian interests and be much more Pakistan aligned. And at the next available excuse/opportunity to fuck up Pakistan, clobber them. If the US starts actively and severely damaging Indian interests in the Subcontinent, there is zero reason for India to play ball in their regime change games. They've already fucked Bangladesh beyond recognition for India as it is - and you can bet Pakistan will get some good aid & military supplies/hardware out of the situation too.
 
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