Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (41 Viewers)

Oldworld said:
This puts you in a catch-22 situation. For every rupee you spend on stealth R&D, you have 1 rupee less to spend on strategic weapon programs

The question is which project will Govt prioritize, strategic programs like hypersonic missiles, ASAT, MIRV SLBM etc which cannot be purchased or stealth fighter jets which can be purchased
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They can pursue both. They have the financial muscle to do that. Do not let the chindi gormint get away with their pathetic track record.
 
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Haven't been keeping up with the daily developments here, so don't know if this was discussed already, but I've been thinking. What if the reason the US was so keen on a ceasefire, and why they've suddenly put out positive statements and gestures towards Pakistan is all related to a single purpose - use them in what looks like an imminent conflict with Iran?

Obviously India hammering Pakistan in that situation would have put a real spanner in their works. If this is the case, India should passively and quietly help Iran to an extent. Any regime the US would look to forcibly impose there would likely be horrible for Indian interests and be much more Pakistan aligned. And at the next available excuse/opportunity to fuck up Pakistan, clobber them. If the US starts actively and severely damaging Indian interests in the Subcontinent, there is zero reason for India to play ball in their regime change games. They've already fucked Bangladesh beyond recognition for India as it is - and you can bet Pakistan will get some good aid & military supplies/hardware out of the situation too.
 
The one thing I appreciate about the Israeli strikes is targeting Iranian military leadership. That is what we should have done as well.

It put the opposition is disarray and reduces chance of response. Looks at Iranian, they haven't even dared to response.

Something to learn for next time.
 
Nishaanbaaz said:
Haven't been keeping up with the daily developments here, so don't know if this was discussed already, but I've been thinking. What if the reason the US was so keen on a ceasefire, and why they've suddenly put out positive statements and gestures towards Pakistan is all related to a single purpose - use them in what looks like an imminent conflict with Iran?

Obviously India hammering Pakistan in that situation would have put a real spanner in their works. If this is the case, India should passively and quietly help Iran to an extent. Any regime the US would look to forcibly impose there would likely be horrible for Indian interests and be much more Pakistan aligned. And at the next available excuse/opportunity to fuck up Pakistan, clobber them. If the US starts actively and severely damaging Indian interests in the Subcontinent, there is zero reason for India to play ball in their regime change games. They've already fucked Bangladesh beyond recognition for India as it is - and you can bet Pakistan will get some good aid & military supplies/hardware out of the situation too.
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While we say things like we want to clobber Pakodastan, we still do not have a strategy, despite the BrahMos numbers we have, to deal them a defeat that is truly deterrent in value. I think India making the distinction between Porki Army and terrorists is a big problem. Porki Army is full of jaahil gernails who are just terrorists in uniform. We have to attack the brigade HQs, possibly the GHQ itself to show we do not make a distinction between uniformed and non-uniformed terrorists.
 
RoaringTigerHiddenDragon said:
While we say things like we want to clobber Pakodastan, we still do not have a strategy, despite the BrahMos numbers we have, to deal them a defeat that is truly deterrent in value. I think India making the distinction between Porki Army and terrorists is a big problem. Porki Army is full of jaahil gernails who are just terrorists in uniform. We have to attack the brigade HQs, possibly the GHQ itself to show we do not make a distinction between uniformed and non-uniformed terrorists.
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I agree 100% and I think that is the next step, the next time there's an engagement (though I wish they'd reached this stage sooner). If you pay attention to Modi's speech, there's also a hint there, that all future attacks will pretty much immediately be treated as Pak responsibility and there will be no differentiation between military and jihadi groups - nor will India bother with trying to "prove" anything

It's a gradual, systematic change from pre-Modi era (inaction by UPA after 26/11 & countless blasts), to early Modi era (inviting Nawaz to swearing in, allowing ISI inspection of AFB after Pathankot, then surprise visit to Nawaz as last gesture/attempt), to large scale SF raids into PoJK after Uri in '16, then fighter jets bombing Pakistan proper in '19 after Pulwama, then countless strikes on terror targets in Pak heartland of Punjab + multiple military sites/AFB's now following Pahalgam (and also posturing with Navy - which almost got its chance to strike). Next step seems clear.
 
Nibbler said:
End of the day there is always a scarcity problem and you have to make choices

If not in development, then in production
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We have enough financial resources to put in them. Stealth fighters will be costly and maintenance expensive.

The problem is not funds. Its time constraints.

Kaveri + AMCA = around 12-16 Billion USD. Spread over a few years.
Foreign Stealth Platform = 10 Billion USD. Most of it upfront and ongoing expensive maintenance.

So, Financially it makes sense to go with Indian plaftforms.
 
Nicky said:
The one thing I appreciate about the Israeli strikes is targeting Iranian military leadership. That is what we should have done as well.

It put the opposition is disarray and reduces chance of response. Looks at Iranian, they haven't even dared to response.

Something to learn for next time.
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Is there any resistance movement in Iran which can take over?
Their youths are extremely anti islam but not organised
 
Psacha123 said:
Looks like it isn’t a state visit, but more like Pannu ‘inviting’ himself for events!


View: https://x.com/tvvitterlndia/status/1933361784368607262?s=46
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It would have been great optics if munir and pork generals attended trump party with Israelis while iran is being bombed by Israelis.
Pakistan has 30 percent shias and pak army have branded ahmadis which could have been better to spread riots across porkistan.
Iran ummah died today as israeli strikes were being helped by porkis isi as they gave the location to cia.
 
fire starter said:
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This guy is chutia or something…

The punch u forget to launch during fight should be launched on own face to keep oneself sane…

Whatever done is done,

IAF bombed paki bases from Skardu to Karachi and took out few prized items just to give pakis a message.

And if this message is not duly received by pakis and some nuance is done then

Operation Sindoor will be unpaused …

Indian objectives were achieved on first night itself…

due to ROE restrictions we did lose couple of fighters but without any pilot being harmed.

Whatever we achieved next was just bonanza …

Next time whatever pakis does it will be considered an act of war and most probably IAF will start by taking down air defence systems first of PAF before going for terror strikes and when pakis reply …

Indian Navy can clean out paki navy completely
 
Tumba said:
This guy is chutia or something…

The punch u forget to launch during fight should be launched on own face to keep oneself sane…

Whatever done is done,

IAF bombed paki bases from Skardu to Karachi and took out few prized items just to give pakis a message.

And if this message is not duly received by pakis and some nuance is done then

Operation Sindoor will be unpaused …

Indian objectives were achieved on first night itself…

due to ROE restrictions we did lose couple of fighters but without any pilot being harmed.

Whatever we achieved next was just bonanza …

Next time whatever pakis does it will be considered an act of war and most probably IAF will start by taking down air defence systems first of PAF before going for terror strikes and when pakis reply …

Indian Navy can clean out paki navy completely
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Hellfire just does a lot of engagement farming tbh. People should ignore his takes. Next I hope IN will flatten karachi.
 
Tumba said:
This guy is chutia or something…

The punch u forget to launch during fight should be launched on own face to keep oneself sane…

Whatever done is done,

IAF bombed paki bases from Skardu to Karachi and took out few prized items just to give pakis a message.

And if this message is not duly received by pakis and some nuance is done then

Operation Sindoor will be unpaused …

Indian objectives were achieved on first night itself…

due to ROE restrictions we did lose couple of fighters but without any pilot being harmed.

Whatever we achieved next was just bonanza …

Next time whatever pakis does it will be considered an act of war and most probably IAF will start by taking down air defence systems first of PAF before going for terror strikes and when pakis reply …

Indian Navy can clean out paki navy completely
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He's a retired army vet. Watch your mouth. He probably knows ten times better than you what unfolded and how and he's not wrong when he says Op Sindoor should never have been paused.
 
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