Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (46 Viewers)

We will do fuck all. Quote me on it.

I will change my username to arsehole if we do any 'pre emptive' strikes.

We lost the opportunity when we were winning, bowing down to the Americunts. Just two more days would have decimated Paki military infra and set them back by a decade. Instead we happily and duly agreed to a laughable ceasefire, which the cunts violatef the same day itself.

And in 2-3 years Napakicunts would have strengthened their AF, AD and have their Americunt overlords well in bed with them.

While we twiddle our thumbs with the farce that is the MMRCA (expect the circus to go on for the next 5-10 years) and no options for a 5th gen fighter, our enemies will be preparing for action.

You can guarantee the Pakis will be emboldened for further misadventures in the next couple of years, backed by their Chinese puppeteers. That is what happens when you lose your deterrence.

It is HIGH time to prioritise our nations sovereignty and security over anything else. Increase taxes, divert finds away from bs appeasement programmes and freebies, do whatever needs to be done. We cannot afford to lose our conventional edge over the Pakis, especially the air force.

All these paper programmes like AMCA in 15 years will not help us in a war with the jihadis, fully backed by the Chinese.

The immediate needs are as important as future independence from reliance on foreign hardware.

Right now what we need is a fuck ton more Rafales, a 5th gen import in sufficient nos(Su 57 being the ONLY option) , BVR parity with Pakis, a dense and layered AD, a lot more missiles and anything else to maintain credible deterrence. If nothing else, a lot more warheads to discourage misadventures and a roll back of the stupid no first use policy.

Make our enemies think ten times before daring to attack us and risk annihilation.
 
We will do fuck all. Quote me on it.

I will change my username to arsehole if we do any 'pre emptive' strikes.

We lost the opportunity when we were winning, bowing down to the Americunts. Just two more days would have decimated Paki military infra and set them back by a decade. Instead we happily and duly agreed to a laughable ceasefire, which the cunts violatef the same day itself.

And in 2-3 years Napakicunts would have strengthened their AF, AD and have their Americunt overlords well in bed with them.

While we twiddle our thumbs with the farce that is the MMRCA (expect the circus to go on for the next 5-10 years) and no options for a 5th gen fighter, our enemies will be preparing for action.

You can guarantee the Pakis will be emboldened for further misadventures in the next couple of years, backed by their Chinese puppeteers. That is what happens when you lose your deterrence.

It is HIGH time to prioritise our nations sovereignty and security over anything else. Increase taxes, divert finds away from bs appeasement programmes and freebies, do whatever needs to be done. We cannot afford to lose our conventional edge over the Pakis, especially the air force.

All these paper programmes like AMCA in 15 years will not help us in a war with the jihadis, fully backed by the Chinese.

The immediate needs are as important as future independence from reliance on foreign hardware.

Right now what we need is a fuck ton more Rafales, a 5th gen import in sufficient nos(Su 57 being the ONLY option) , BVR parity with Pakis, a dense and layered AD, a lot more missiles and anything else to maintain credible deterrence. If nothing else, a lot more warheads to discourage misadventures and a roll back of the stupid no first use policy.

Make our enemies think ten times before daring to attack us and risk annihilation.
There's a huge lobby in India especially gandu babus who are in bed with pakis and Americans
We would never have a powerful MIC till we get rid of lodus from UPSC and every other lodu civilian that opposes this move
 
There's a huge lobby in India especially gandu babus who are in bed with pakis and Americans
We would never have a powerful MIC till we get rid of lodus from UPSC and every other lodu civilian that opposes this move

Which is why we are fucked in the foreseeable future.

Our entire structure is designed against the kind of decisiveness needed to deal with our enemies.

While psychophants and demagogues celebrate our pyrrhic victory, there is the real threat of India falling behind a failed state like Pakistan in terms of our air force.

In what fucking universe a beggar nation like Pakistan operates more AWACS than India, has better BVR capabilities and soon to operate 5th gen fighters before India?

How the fuck did we let this happen?
 
Which is why we are fucked in the foreseeable future.

Our entire structure is designed against the kind of decisiveness needed to deal with our enemies.

While psychophants and demagogues celebrate our pyrrhic victory, there is the real threat of India falling behind a failed state like Pakistan in terms of our air force.

In what fucking universe a beggar nation like Pakistan operates more AWACS than India, has better BVR capabilities and soon to operate 5th gen fighters before India?

How the fuck did we let this happen?

In India the govt is chindi and doesn't want to pay eye watering sums for imports
The Rayban Gang meanwhile wants only imports.

In Packistan the military and the govt is the same guy, import hi imports hote hai.


Therefore the current pickle.
 
In India the govt is chindi and doesn't want to pay eye watering sums for imports
The Rayban Gang meanwhile wants only imports.

In Packistan the military and the govt is the same guy, import hi imports hote hai.


Therefore the current pickle.

Is there even a solution?

Be prepared for another 5 years of song and dance for the new fighter deal.

Forget about 5th gen, i will be happy if we can get a deal signed for 100 plus Rafales by 2030.

Wheb the existing rulers had a super majority, they could have force pass a law to ensure defence procurement can be fast tracked without going through the whole circus in the name of national security, but they did nothing.

Now they want to do the whole nautanki again.

Sometimes i want to bang my head against a wall repeatedly...
 
Only if Pakis start first.
Op Sindoor is over.

I feel the leadership knows Muneera will try something again in the future so that is why they make loud threats to Pakistan in public.


An conflict may arise in future due to water. This looks like long term bait.
 
If you want to provoke pak to a war then start building the infrastructure to divert Indus water. Spooked pakis may use their terrorists to harm the infrastructure and we will get a chance to bang them. If porkies just do lip service like aftermath of 370 and release songs then go ahead and complete the IW diversion 🤣 in both cases they are screwed if GoI is serious on IWT abeyance.
 
Is there even a solution?

Be prepared for another 5 years of song and dance for the new fighter deal.

Forget about 5th gen, i will be happy if we can get a deal signed for 100 plus Rafales by 2030.

Wheb the existing rulers had a super majority, they could have force pass a law to ensure defence procurement can be fast tracked without going through the whole circus in the name of national security, but they did nothing.

Now they want to do the whole nautanki again.

Sometimes i want to bang my head against a wall repeatedly...

if they start working today by 2030 we can have something to show.

I'd just buy 4 squadrons of Rafale( 72 planes ) as a ((( stop gap ))), and put the Super Sukhoi, AMCA and tejas mk2 programs on full speed

For Super Sukhoi if we need to import radars etc then that also should be done, but our rudram, astra should be well integrated

atleast 7-8 more netra awacs need to be purchased.

This all needs money, does Govt want to spend? I don't think so.
 
We won't do anything first saar, full stop.

We are a peaceful gandhian country, the land of Buddh, not Yuddh so the first bullet/missile/bomb will come from the direction of Rawalpindi and Karachi.

All aggression you are seeing is basically to dissuade the pigs in the neighborhood from trying anything, else Modi will authorize the armed forces to spit roast the whole country of Pakistan.

Now we may receive some burns from this but if they initiate we cannot sit back.

See Pakistan is the nanga jisse khuda bhi darre.

He is the suar who is goading you to wrestle with him in his muck and shit so your 3 piece italian silk suit is filthy.

Well, hopefully, we have learned from the initial mistake we made on May 7th. Cause everything else was goddamn perfect.
Btw, not a single Rafale was lost—sustained damage, but wasn't a complete loss. 2 jets were lost. I can't comment on the aircraft types lost, cause honestly, I wasn't told. But I was categorically told not to speculate. So :censored::censored:
I like your analogy about the muck and shit making our 3 piece italian suit filthy. But I think agli baar langot pehen ke utarne waale hai humlog akhade mein.


I pray to the divine powers that India has the opportunity to take on the Murugan avatar very, very soon.
 
Well, hopefully, we have learned from the initial mistake we made on May 7th. Cause everything else was goddamn perfect.
Btw, not a single Rafale was lost—sustained damage, but wasn't a complete loss. 2 jets were lost. I can't comment on the aircraft types lost, cause honestly, I wasn't told. But I was categorically told not to speculate. So :censored::censored:
I like your analogy about the muck and shit making our 3 piece italian suit filthy. But I think agli baar langot pehen ke utarne waale hai humlog akhade mein.


I pray to the divine powers that India has the opportunity to take on the Murugan avatar very, very soon.
Probably Russian birds. One was a mig irrc. Another was probably raptor.
 
This copium by inbred pakis works in long term Indian favour …

The more jeehard these inbreds does due to false sense of history the more hardened stand any Govt in India will take politically, economically, water and militarily…

Indian local defence industry will grow more and more on top of this as its pretty costly to build numbers depending on foreign buys …
He is a canadian Han. But his posts on porkies give a good perspective on how other see porkies. I have read similar takes from others. All assess porkies highly. But look under the surface and we can easily conclude that they are just hyping up the piggies. They all are using piggies. Piggies think they have pulled a masterful stunt but in reality they are just a tool to poke India. So, anyone who thinks porkies achieved some diplomatic success is just plain ignorant. World really really want to keep us in check and porkies are their tools. Thats why porkies get weapons on time.
 
Ayotallah please bomb Nur khan as well as its empty only after op sindoor 😂 porkies have no air defence to intercept Irans shitty missiles and they can name bombed American operated base for face saviour
 
Ayotallah please bomb Nur khan as well as its empty only after op sindoor 😂 porkies have no air defence to intercept Irans shitty missiles and they can name bombed American operated base for face saviour

Heck no! Uss ched ko humlogo ne khoda hai, pelenge bhi humlog hi. :bhangra:

B(ig)B(rahmos)C(raters) FTW!
 
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Noob here. In simple terms what roles did su30mki and rafale play. Why did 1 rafale go down and none of su30mki.

Remember that two Su-30MKI had dodged a min of AIM-120C5 during Op Swift Retreat in 2019.

Sukhoi aircrews train extensively in BVRAAM evasion tactics. Whatever was learnt on 27th Feb 19 has been institutionalised and is now a part of the air to air combat curriculum.

Besides, a Su-30MKI is a very manoeuvrable aircraft with lots and lots of agility and if the pilot knows the rough direction from which the hostile bvraam is coming, he can position himself/herself suitably and execute certain maneuvers that can deplete the incoming missile's energy and always staying out of its nez.

Besides, our jets dodged and defeated more than 100 PL-15 during the intervening night of 6-7th May. 100 is a conservative no. It's more than that. The PAF J-10CP, JF17 and F-16 kept on launching BVRAAM at us in order to score kills and also to force us to go cold and thus deny us the opportunity to release our air to ground payloads- standoff munitions and missiles.
 

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