Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (116 Viewers)

[ezsasa]

We have had NSAs and PMs like that before and they didn't even have liabilities overseas. It's a reasonable doubt to have.

Having restricted ROE, the kind of language and behavior put out by MEA in pressers don't make sense, and I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking MEA was doing some very, very stupid things for their own goals not aligned with the country.

first let us understand the origin of the word gaslighting, gaslighting means psychologically manipulating someone close so much that the victim starts to believe in a reality far from the truth, eventually leading to harm to the target victim. usually victims are not aware they are being gaslit, since their own perception of reality is not in line with actual reality.

in this case, gaslighting being imposed on the gullible public is that MEA has done something awfully wrong. whenever some military escalation happens, there are always a few who feel the outcome is not upto their satisfaction. post balakot strike, there were a few who felt the op was a failure because paki H-2 sow managed to fall close to the fence. post galwan, there were a few who took offence to "koi nahi ghusa" political rhetoric. this always happens, not a big deal as such.

given this context, do you strongly feel MEA has done something very very wrong?

 

[Sanglamorre]

I understand your concerns. Even I’m not a fan of the diplomatic clownery we've seen at times, both under this government and the previous one. But let’s apply some rational thinking to this particular incident. Do you really believe Pakistan would have allowed such an operation if we had informed them in advance? It’s simply absurd to assume that we told them, “We’re going to strike your terrorist camps tonight,” and they just nodded along. No sovereign nation—especially one with hostile ties—would ever agree to that. Moreover, the MEA has officially denied this interpretation. The PIB has clearly stated that this is a misrepresentation of Jaishankar’s remarks. They’ve already issued clarifications, backed by facts.

So why cling to an illogical and baseless doubt? A little critical thinking is enough to realise how implausible the idea is. There’s no scenario where Pakistan would willingly allow India to bomb multiple high valued targets on its soil.

Somebody calling this kind of speculation foolish isn’t dismissive—it’s accurate. The entire argument hinges on a fundamentally flawed premise: that Pakistan, somehow, magically agreed to get bombed at nine different locations. That defies both logic and common sense.

They didn't though? Our airplanes had to dodge A2A and etc. There wasn't even that much ingress into Pakistan. What exactly could they have done except throwing missiles at us, which they did.

Not like they can pack up the physical locations.

 

[snakeeyes07]

Very good range of loitering munitions on offer by Adani
Part-1

Part-2

Hopefully Indian armed forces will get to use some of these when Op Sindoor resumes.

 

[redpanda]

They didn't though? Our airplanes had to dodge A2A and etc. There wasn't even that much ingress into Pakistan. What exactly could they have done except throwing missiles at us, which they did.

Not like they can pack up the physical locations.

Again that kinda assumes we informed them before hand. When officials have already denied this multiple times. Let me tell you something, if they had been informed early, they would have prepared much better. They would have evacuated many camps. Yet that didn't happen, literally family members of that Masood Azhar got hoorified in our attack.

'Misrepresentation of facts': MEA clarifies EAM Jaishankar's 'warned Pakistan' remark | India News - The Times of India

India News: The ministry of external affairs has refuted Rahul Gandhi's allegations that Jaishankar informed Pakistan prior to Operation Sindoor. MEA clarified th

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

View: https://x.com/PIBFactCheck/status/1923020469957021804

 

[Sanglamorre]

first let us understand the origin of the word gaslighting, gaslighting means psychologically manipulating someone close so much that the victim starts to believe in a reality far from the truth, eventually leading to harm to the target victim. usually victims are not aware they are being gaslit, since their own perception of reality is not in line with actual reality.

in this case, gaslighting being imposed on the gullible public is that MEA has done something awfully wrong. whenever some military escalation happens, there are always a few who feel the outcome is not upto their satisfaction. post balakot strike, there were a few who felt the op was a failure because paki H-2 sow managed to fall close to the fence. post galwan, there were a few who took offence to "koi nahi ghusa" political rhetoric. this always happens, not a big deal as such.

given this context, do you strongly feel MEA has done something very very wrong?

You don't need to be gaslit when it is MEA itself that keep setting caught with its pants down encouraging anti India elements like inviting this or that khalistani etc.

OP Sindoor had strong MEA fingerprints over it. That aside, I simply won't believe a department where the babus have their kids in countries inmical to India, with positions in think tanks and such aren't getting squeezed and tapped to make India fall in line.

 

[shade2]

Is there any difference nowadays? seeing congress' stand on many Indian army operations and constant anti India works they do, for greens less said the better.

Let's just say, the internal enemies are more dangerous than the Pakis.

Congress and their Mulla appeasement will be the single biggest reason why we'll have a civil war in India in the future.

I won't post publicly on what needs to be done to Congress both the leaders and it's dumb cadres who virtue signal their cowardice as Secularism.

Been noticing a lot
Greens when they ask question about India and hinduism they ask with certain tone,almost mockingly even if a news is +ve they try to turn it down
While if they suddenly see -ve they immediately accept no matter how dumb post it is

Congi, commie, domestic paki and Pindi, Dhaka Pakis use sem2sem talking points, language and narrative.
There is no difference.

Neither should there be any difference in the consequences they should face.

 

[ezsasa]

You don't need to be gaslit when it is MEA itself that keep setting caught with its pants down encouraging anti India elements like inviting this or that khalistani etc.

OP Sindoor had strong MEA fingerprints over it. That aside, I simply won't believe a department where the babus have their kids in countries inmical to India, with positions in think tanks and such aren't getting squeezed and tapped to make India fall in line.

i'll stick to op sindoor.

of course, op sindoor will have MEA role in it. after the military phase is over, since this involved two sovereign countries, it's MEA who takes over one of the next phases of op sindoor by communicating GoI's message to their counterparts in other countries. even that presentation by defence attache at suryadarma university from indonesia i had posted yesterday is part of MEA's outreach.

last month, misri was the target, later jai shankar was the target, now you say MEA.
i am more interested in figuring out origin of this gaslighting.

check if this earlier post of mine is helpful.

non-escalation is built into the first statement released on op sindoor, precedent had been set in 2016 surgical strikes itself.

2016​

Indian Army conducted surgical strikes on terror launchpads: DGMO​

Indian Army doesn’t plan to continue with surgical strike against terrorist launchpad across LOC as of now while stating that India’s intention is to maintain peace and tranquillity in the region


View: https://youtu.be/uTDYjQ1-cIU

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https://www.pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2127370


this policy predates jai shankar as EAM.

military aspect of op sindoor may have ended, diplomatic phase op sindoor has just begun. i have already listed out the number of times terrorism has been made centre piece of bilateral and multilateral agreements and statements since 2016.

whether it is modi, doval, misri, jai shankar, service chiefs, DGMOs, etc etc. everybody is playing their roles.

as far as sm outrage is concerned, mob mentality is built into the way SM operates.

 

[Savageking456]

last month, misri was the target, later jai shankar was the target, now you say MEA.
i am more interested in figuring out origin of this gaslighting

People in general are emotional fools
Ofcourse blaming MEA misri and jai shankar was stupid,especially people saying MEA Jaishankar is compromised(they don't know how govt runs)
IFS babu has to be diplomatic and every word is noticed internationally.
Some people even thought sending delegation implied Jaishankar is failing as foreign minister(how stupid lol)

 

[Knowitall]

@mist_consecutive @shade2 it seems you guys were on to something.


View: https://x.com/meghupdates/status/1939191895504363917?s=46

Also hats off to priest makes me sick how the guy has to micromanage things to such an extent. Hopefully the truth comes out.


View: https://x.com/aryamanbharat/status/1938961342138065249?s=46

 

[Knowitall]

View: https://x.com/_tiwarie__63/status/1939203502305051107?s=46

 

[shade2]

@mist_consecutive @shade2 it seems you guys were on to something.


View: https://x.com/meghupdates/status/1939191895504363917?s=46

Also hats off to priest makes me sick how the guy has to micromanage things to such an extent. Hopefully the truth comes out.


View: https://x.com/aryamanbharat/status/1938961342138065249?s=46

CCTV footage should have been reviewed and staff should have been grilled on Day 1.

The Priest King can't do much if the guys below him are all rats working for various foreign handlers.

Also if he doesn't micro-manage the babooze and other such professionals, things go badly, various examples are there.

 

[Knowitall]

CCTV footage should have been reviewed and staff should have been grilled on Day 1.

The Priest King can't do much if the guys below him are all rats working for various foreign handlers.

Also if he doesn't micro-manage the babooze and other such professionals, things go badly, various examples are there.

If and its still a big if this was indeed a deliberate sabotage by the hands of Pakistan nothing short of a war would suffice.

We are talking about one of the deadliest terror attack in almost a decade now.

 

[ezsasa]

paki COAS giving speech to karachi naval academy cadets.

is there an earlier instance of a paki COAS participating in a similar ceremony, or is it because he is a field marshal so technically boss of all forces including PN ?
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Pak Army Chief Munir stokes tensions, raises Kashmir issue again, reaffirms Pakistan’s support for what it calls a “legitimate struggle,” widely seen as backing terrorism in the region


View: https://x.com/WIONews/status/1939249333682971110

 

[Knowitall]

paki COAS giving speech to karachi naval academy cadets.

is there an earlier instance of a paki COAS participating in a similar ceremony, or is it because he is a field marshal so technically boss of all forces including PN ?
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Pak Army Chief Munir stokes tensions, raises Kashmir issue again, reaffirms Pakistan’s support for what it calls a “legitimate struggle,” widely seen as backing terrorism in the region


View: https://x.com/WIONews/status/1939249333682971110

His ego is bruised or he knows India is close to figuring something out hence all this bravado and attacks being blamed on us.

 

[Simon Riley]

@mist_consecutive @shade2 it seems you guys were on to something.


View: https://x.com/meghupdates/status/1939191895504363917?s=46

Also hats off to priest makes me sick how the guy has to micromanage things to such an extent. Hopefully the truth comes out.


View: https://x.com/aryamanbharat/status/1938961342138065249?s=46

I Hold some suspicions too regarding this matter, since aviation experts have pointed out that a double engine failure is extremely rare.

 

[Simon Riley]

paki COAS giving speech to karachi naval academy cadets.

is there an earlier instance of a paki COAS participating in a similar ceremony, or is it because he is a field marshal so technically boss of all forces including PN ?
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Pak Army Chief Munir stokes tensions, raises Kashmir issue again, reaffirms Pakistan’s support for what it calls a “legitimate struggle,” widely seen as backing terrorism in the region


View: https://x.com/WIONews/status/1939249333682971110

As monsoon passes, the season of Hindu festivals will start, I suspect that they might target our religious places and /or processions during that time.

 

[snakeeyes07]

As monsoon passes, the season of Hindu festivals will start, I suspect that they might target our religious places and /or processions during that time.

For Pakistan it is a double edged sword as October is when campaign season for a ground offensive also starts.

 

[shade2]

If and its still a big if this was indeed a deliberate sabotage by the hands of Pakistan nothing short of a war would suffice.

We are talking about one of the deadliest terror attack in almost a decade now.

If it is made public we have to give a military response.

Otherwise I doubt the Leaderji would bother.
Or maybe he would, we will get Op Sindoor Pro Plus Max

Then again this won't be the last, they will do an on the nose terror attack since they are overconfident on the Orange Pervert's support for them.

Pahalgam was also a "bait" terror attack btw, but they didn't expect the full scale bund-blasting response they got including in their precious Punjab.

 

[shade2]

btw they could launch an Operation Spiderweb( and whatever the Jewish equivalent was ) type attack on our Airbases, Shipyards and Naval bases.

Operation Spiderweb - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They have enough such judases within the country who will do this for money, mahila or mazhub

 

[Nishaanbaaz]

paki COAS giving speech to karachi naval academy cadets.

is there an earlier instance of a paki COAS participating in a similar ceremony, or is it because he is a field marshal so technically boss of all forces including PN ?
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Pak Army Chief Munir stokes tensions, raises Kashmir issue again, reaffirms Pakistan’s support for what it calls a “legitimate struggle,” widely seen as backing terrorism in the region


View: https://x.com/WIONews/status/1939249333682971110

Between this statement (similar to pre-Pahalgam speech), the recent claim by Pak that the Pulwama style attack by Pashtun freedom fighters in Waziristan (killing 16, wounding ~30) was done by India, Pakistan's month long Air Exercise NOTAM, and old rumors that there will be another terror attack after the ceasefire - I get a strong feeling Pakistan will give us another juicy opportunity soon.