Operation Sindoor

[Sickle_Cut]

One thing I fail to understand!

Via Trump why didn’t Modi request extradition of Masood Azhar and Hafiz Saeed, Syed Sallahuddin

Trump agreed to Rana extradition

Why not ?

Pak Army also feels them dispensible as they think “ PAFF, TRF” are new organization


Laskar is defunct - as per some pakis

 

[crazywithmath]

A foreigner has to showcase the Ws for us


View: https://x.com/AmrullahSaleh2/status/1921314772848414972

To be perfectly honest tho, gora mediawallahs are willing to let us have the final W in their coverage. Almost everyone (CNN, Sky et al) is saying that India's magnanimity brought an end to it because our boys had the upper hand and could have easily continued to pound them. Seems to me Uncle Sam is letting GoI hold this narrative in gora media.

But I seriously do not get the bhosdapillars, the best folks here expected was a Balakot 2.0

I did not even expect Ji to up the ante and voted 'no escalation' on the Pahelgam thread (yeah, I have no shame admitting that). But what we witnessed was phenomenal, the videos we have of our drone/missile strikes are enough to give them generational trauma. We hit terror camps, all their major cities, air bases, ADS batteries at will while roaches trended 'Allah Rahem Karey' on social media.

And we did it with pinpoint accuracy. They could not intercept jack.

It is a W only.

 

[Prasad]

To the pessimists, hold on to your tits.

This is not the end of this story. The recent attacks were not even the beginning.
The beginning the way I see it is Pathankot.
Every attack after that had seen India impose more and more costs on Pakis.

This time the cost we imposed on Pakis was very visible.

The reason I say the story does not end here is simply because Pakis will always scratch that itch. They can't help it. They have to scratch it.

You may all think we should have gone into Paki land and occcupied them but that was never an option in this round.
As sad as it sounds, we will always be in a defensive-offensive posture, meaning we will always justify to the world of any attacks we do. Th threshold for complete offense was not crossed this round.

This is a ceasefire & our position now is any terror attack on India is an act of war.

 

[Prasad]

You're correct. The conditions outlined in our bet has been met.

I am curious though, what would you say might actually cause GoI to go to war with Pakistan for real?

I would say 2-3 more terror attacks similar to the last one.
That would make a case for India to go after Pakis.

Even that one, we would just pound them, probably occupy very select bits of land, try and split balochistan, that's it.

There is no scenario where India will every occupy their towns and cities.
We will pound them to dust than occupy them.

 

[maximus777]

You don't get a fusion reaction by bombing a nuke even head on .

Maybe our strike buried a significant portion of their nukes. The jazba junnon duffers threw in the towel and maybe decided to strike with whatever they have left turning the subcontinent into radioactive sh.thole (arguably better than sharia sh.thole). This is the only plausible explanation aside from Indian govt developing sudden cold feet which is unlikely since we were pummeling Pak.

Also I think India's defense and offense worked so spectacularly well that it went far beyond our expectations. The much maligned DRDO delivered some serious state of art sh.t which worked brilliantly under battle conditions. Sometimes people don't know how to handle success and take the home advantage! It took BJP 2 terms to finally behave like they are not in opposition!!

 

[KiloLimaZulu]

Absolute zero conversion about the failure of Chinese air Defence system on the western media despite having clear evidence but plenty to say about imaginary kills by Chinese jets.

 

[RocketMan]

Don't lose hope guys ! In a span of 3 days we've shown these subhuman monsters their aukat. The heart of their cities & bases were hit with impunity & much terror infra destroyed . The psychological impact of us hitting that JeM mosque cannot be ruled out on their jaahil quom. Bottom line is a disproportionate cost was imposed for a terror attack for the very first time. We as indians should stand with our country & government. To pakis - " bhenchodo , ek din pakistan banega kabristan" . your future is to become another Gaza , a pile of rubble with dead or dying emaciated jaahil jihadis without any water (tea is fantastic) .

 

[MadMax]

From doing Nothing and instead blaming RSS after one of the World's big terrorist Attacks in Mumbai on 26/11 to Now bombing in the heart of Pakistan , we have came a long way. The Overton window, though not to our liking, has definitely shifted .

The War for survival of our civilization is going to be long and arduous. So don't expect it to be a T-20 match .We have made a lot of gains and will learn and adapt.

Instead focus on the bigger set of goals which need to be put into action.

1. We need to weaken the writ of Pakistani Army and it was progressing well before this war and needs to continue.

2. Provide Support to BLA , and other separatist movements in KP/FATA and support it with Arms via Iran/Taliban . They have been killing more Paki soldiers than Indian Army.

3.Cancelling of IWT will further lead to scarcity of water in Sindh and that region is ripe for separatist movements.

4. Target 2-star Generals and their families involved in planning of Terror Attacks and living in Lahore/Karachi/Islamabad or abroad in Canada/Europe/Australia .
Create assassin squads just like KGB or Unknown Man .Eliminate them though shootings or Polonium-210.

 

[TringTringMonster]

To the pessimists, hold on to your tits.

This is not the end of this story. The recent attacks were not even the beginning.
The beginning the way I see it is Pathankot.
Every attack after that had seen India impose more and more costs on Pakis.

This time the cost we imposed on Pakis was very visible.

The reason I say the story does not end here is simply because Pakis will always scratch that itch. They can't help it. They have to scratch it.

You may all think we should have gone into Paki land and occcupied them but that was never an option in this round.
As sad as it sounds, we will always be in a defensive-offensive posture, meaning we will always justify to the world of any attacks we do. Th threshold for complete offense was not crossed this round.

This is a ceasefire & our position now is any terror attack on India is an act of war.

I still feel suspending IWT and professing to not give pakis a drop as bigger than Op Sindoor. Obviously, it might be a unpopular opinion

It's a nuke level threat which Indians don't realize but Pakis do.

 

[maximus777]

I would say 2-3 more terror attacks similar to the last one.
That would make a case for India to go after Pakis.

Even that one, we would just pound them, probably occupy very select bits of land, try and split balochistan, that's it.

There is no scenario where India will every occupy their towns and cities.
We will pound them to dust than occupy them.

We dont need their sh.tty population. Give them a humanitarian corridor and ask them to p.ss off!

 

[KiloLimaZulu]

One thing I fail to understand!

Via Trump why didn’t Modi request extradition of Masood Azhar and Hafiz Saeed, Syed Sallahuddin

Trump agreed to Rana extradition

Why not ?

Pak Army also feels them dispensible as they think “ PAFF, TRF” are new organization


Laskar is defunct - as per some pakis

That should have been the perfect end to this. At least one of them.

What a waste of time, money, and human beings.

 

[Prasad]

In any analysis we do, the bottom line is this, did India come out better? did Pakis come out worse?

I am absolutely sure there will be a next time and pakis will learn a bigger lesson than the current one, who knows, the next one could be fatal to them.

Let's wait on more info to trickle in and remember the holes in the domes of their mosques and understand what we have actually done.

 

[srev2004]

All said and done, regardless of patting ourselves on the back. We were inches away from nullifying PAF permanently and got cold feet at the last moment. A better outcome would be eradication of their jets and navy prior to ceasefire. We showed air dominance but we just helped them identify the gaps in their doctrine which will be fixed.

I really wished we crossed the finish line to permanently disable their military against ours

 

[asaada]

Look, this is not pakiland. If there are casualties from a 'terror attack' they will have to disclose it. So things will get clear in the coming days.

I get that, mate, but all the signs clearly pointed to a major cover up regarding the Pakistani drone attacks on Srinagar. Almost all the related news was scrubbed at the same time. Then the reports about the terrorist attack in Nagrota were also removed & downgraded to just a minor exchange of fire. None of this inspires confidence to me. Also that voice recording of Goreunit on telegram made me even more skeptical.

Coming to the supposed theory, I based it on the 'alarming intel' they mentioned on that CNN article.

You might be right. Though tbh, most of these media articles are just farming for views after all, the more sensationalized, the better it is for them.

 

[Interested]

I still feel suspending IWT and professing to not give pakis a drop as bigger than Op Sindoor. Obviously, it might be a unpopular opinion

It's a nuke level threat which Indians don't realize but Pakis do.

Stopping water completely would be bad move as China can do the same with us over the Brahmaputra .

What we should do is hold water during sowing time and then flash flood it during the monsoons . Pakistan can be broken up but it should be done economically . Punjab and Sindh are already fighting over water . Imagine when we hold up the water even more .

 

[Prasad]

I still feel suspending IWT and professing to not give pakis a drop as bigger than Op Sindoor. Obviously, it might be a unpopular opinion

It's a nuke level threat which Indians don't realize but Pakis do.

Long term IWT would hurt them a lot more than the last few days.

What last few days did was laid bare their false bravado & their even worse belief that we would not attack them.

Pakis world view lies in tatters.

 

[Prasad]

All said and done, regardless of patting ourselves on the back. We were inches away from nullifying PAF permanently and got cold feet at the last moment. A better outcome would be eradication of their jets and navy prior to ceasefire. We showed air dominance but we just helped them identify the gaps in their doctrine which will be fixed.

I really wished we crossed the finish line to permanently disable their military against ours

We were not inches from nullying PAF by a long shot.

Let's remember, out fighter jets were not crossing the border.
How do you nulify PAF without our jets crossing into Paki land and achieve air superiority?

I get your point though, it would have been great if this continued and we did what you are suggesting.

 

[Interested]

Maybe our strike buried a significant portion of their nukes. The jazba junnon duffers threw in the towel and maybe decided to strike with whatever they have left turning the subcontinent into radioactive sh.thole (arguably better than sharia sh.thole). This is the only plausible explanation aside from Indian govt developing sudden cold feet which is unlikely since we were pummeling Pak.

Also I think India's defense and offense worked so spectacularly well that it went far beyond our expectations. The much maligned DRDO delivered some serious state of art sh.t which worked brilliantly under battle conditions. Sometimes people don't know how to handle success and take the home advantage! It took BJP 2 terms to finally behave like they are not in opposition!!

That may be possible . Pakistan is a small country geographically and they don't have a sea based deterrent . Once their nukes start getting hit , they will have to start mating them to warheads because they could lose it all rapidly .

I was only replying to the post that the missile strike may have caused a nuclear reaction.

 

[RocketMan]

What could be the impact of this skirmish on our future defence procurement & strategy? Any areas of emerging technology we'd like to focus on ?

 

[Knowitall]

What Pakis will improve in the coming days, months, years or however long the era of bhddha goes on.
1) improving counter drones capability
2) improving air defense
3) development of ballistic missiles that can targete deeper into india.
4) nuclear delivery means development
5) securing nukes in a better way
6) cooperation with China to mass produce drone or at least assemble it locally
7) development of an anti aircraft strategy
8) better sop regarding drone countermeasure for public

Just the few I can.

We could have pushed them back by a decade but now we have given them reason to be future ready.

You are not supposed to talk sense here remember.

Let people believe what they want to believe i don't for a second thing anyone is going to change anyone’s opinion here.

The lines have been drawn and the people here now know whats what.