Operation Sindoor

[lupgain]

We now just can't back off . Need areas of PoK but no muzzafarabad or mirpur kind of rabid anti Bharat areas. Need to take Gilgit balistan that too we need to remove people who settled from main land pak.
Need to take higher posts so that there is no option for infiltration.

Need to take care of sindhi Hindus. Can't imagine what will be happening to them.

And baloch should be free . Tak Harmandir sahib.

This is min now that needs to be done. No backing off under international pressure

We need to take back all gurudwara in Pakistan ..at least imp ones
Nankana Saheb.

Masan

Kartarpur

 

[LETHALFORCE]

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-put-forward-position-pakistans-loans-next-imf-board-meet-2025-05-08/

India to put forward position on Pakistan's loans at next IMF board meet​

 

[vampyrbladez]

A Turkish cargo plane landed in Pakistan some time ago with possible loitering munitions, SOWs and possibly AD systems.

Spoiler: SPECULATION 1

CELiK KUBBE (Steel Dome)

The “security umbrella” of Steel Dome is a network-centric air defense system equipped with artificial intelligence features and is expected to protect Turkey’s entire airspace from “very low altitude to very high altitude” and “very short range to long range” threats, according to a statement issued by the government’s Presidency of Defense Industries (SSB).

Spoiler: SPECULATION 2

Alpagut Loitering Muniton

Alpagut, which can operate day and night, is dubbed to be effective against mobile or fixed land and sea targets, radar and communication systems, lightly armored land or sea vehicles, and critical facilities such as command centers.

The munition, which will have an operational radius of 60 kilometers (37 miles), an airtime of more than 60 minutes and different types of warheads, can be used in both single and swarm concepts.

KEMANKES 1 Mini Intelligent Cruise Missile

Kemankeş refers to a miniature, jet-powered cruise missile developed by Baykar Technology, a Turkish defense company. It is designed to be launched from Baykar's unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), such as the Bayraktar AKINCI, TB2, and TB3, and is intended for long-range precision strikes.

Kargi Kamikaze Drone

The Kargi is advertised as being entirely developed in country, and it was designed to suppress and destroy enemy radar and surface-to-air missile systems. The system conducted its maiden flight in 2018 and flew for six hours.

View: https://x.com/BefittingFacts/status/1920552886196711501

 

[Lord Voldemort]

Many prominent Twitter users say they are purposely sharing fake news to confuse Pakistan, unlike in previous conflicts where journalists shared real time operational details which hurt India.

Now these journalists are picking up stories from social media and running it on national TV without secondary fact checks, making a laughing stock of itself.

Users in DFB, don't fall for it.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

We now just can't back off . Need areas of PoK but no muzzafarabad or mirpur kind of rabid anti Bharat areas. Need to take Gilgit balistan that too we need to remove people who settled from main land pak.
Need to take higher posts so that there is no option for infiltration.

Need to take care of sindhi Hindus. Can't imagine what will be happening to them.

And baloch should be free . Tak Harmandir sahib.

This is min now that needs to be done. No backing off under international pressure

Taking GB is not something the nation can tolerate in terms of price in blood.
There are ONLY TWO WAYS to take GB for India:

1. You take Muzaaffarabad-balakot-battagram-besham and move in via N35 highway.
2. You use the indus valley gorge or shyok valley gorge to enter GB through the marol region or siksa region.

These are the ONLY TWO WAYS to get to GB for us - we are not morons to try and do a reverse kargil and try supply invasion directly across the nanga-parbat massif (which is basically the ridge that seperates Kashmir-Ladakh from GB).

Option 1 is too close to nuclear war for now- no way Pakis allow us to come within 50km of their capital and take over their military academy city via ground invasion and not push the nuclear button.

Option 2 is death-trap there are no roads to GB- not even mule-tracks that go from marol to hashimgunj or siksa to surmo. Its LITERALLY gonna be crossing over in 3x3 indantry column, sort of how the pakis infilitrated afghanistan during soviet time via the garam-chashma route in Chitral- which mean suffer 1000:1 casualties, as that is shooting fish in a barrel - just ONE paki infantry company will do a reverse-longewala on us if we tried that.

FIRST thing that needs to happen for us to persue either of these options, is for pakistan to either fragment and lose its strategic depth by breaking away balochistan and khyber and for its nucler option to be downgraded over time due to this type of falling apart as a nation.

 

[vampyrbladez]

Man of the Match

 

[Lord Voldemort]

Karachi has not been attacked and no credible sources confirm any fighter jet being shot down, or even of PAF intruding our airspace.

Last thing Pakistan would want is PAF pilot being captured and being forced to say "Vadapav is fantastic". That kind of PR will be death of Pakistani Armed Forces.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

India Must Now Embrace Israel’s ‘Operation Wrath of God’

The problem with “Operation Sindoor,” as India calls its missile strikes on Pakistani terror camps, is that New Delhi gave the terrorists two weeks to prepare and hide. India must now take inspiration from Israel’s “Operation Wrath of God.”

www.aei.org

India Must Now Embrace Israel’s ‘Operation Wrath of God’​

 

[jazzy_b]

Has any debris footage emerged from the failed drone swarm attack? Curious to see what kind of munitions were involved.

 

[Divine Light]

Just did a quick check on Arnab. He removed his coat and moved the destruction coverage to Islamabad now. He will definitely decimate whole pak by tomorrow morning.

Imagine being a Paki and watching his show at this hour.

Our news channels might look bit clownish. But I think they are good for our common people consumption. Average Indian won't be questioning our forces or GoI. They firmly believe that we are winning big.

This type of jingoism is good for our country to a certain level. If all of us are rational thinkers and watch only very well polished coverage, how ready will we be to fight for nation when real shi* hits the fan?

Too much sophistry will turn us into some rainbow candy only.

 

[vampyrbladez]

doubtful top of the line items will be given??? risk of india getting them too??

This is the best time to test experimental weapons. Pakistanis won't risk more fighter jets as they probably lost 4-6 per reports on mainstream media and SM over last night and today.

These loitering munitions will work well with Bayraktar TB2/Akinci drones with PAF and Turkey probably wants to see how these work in a contested AD environment and compare with their data.

Remember that Turkey also operates the S400 so they may leverage performance data to US in exchange for reentry into F 35 program.



If they have a portable version of CELiK KUBBE (Steel Dome) then it may be used as a counterpart of Akashteer (IACCS). It seems that due to drone attacks in the afternoon and tonight, Pakistan has probably lost a HQ-9/16 battery.

 

[Bleh]

India-Pakistan jets clash in one of the largest dogfights in recent history

Fighting between the two nuclear rivals has intensified amid international concerns and calls for cooling off

www.newsweek.com

India-Pakistan: 125 Jets Clash in One of Largest Dogfights in Recent History​

is the scale being exaggerated??

Who counted?... Neither side given official statements on the size or scale. They're just making shit up at this point

 

[Brood Father]

I know the rage and adrenaline but try not to report fake news .. remember until there is no official confirmation nothing is certain
Today lot of journalist have lost credibility..

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

Just did a quick check on Arnab. He removed his coat and moved the destruction coverage to Islamabad now. He will definitely decimate whole pak by tomorrow morning.

Imagine being a Paki and watching his show at this hour.

Our news channels might look bit clownish. But I think they are good for our common people consumption. Average Indian won't be questioning our forces or GoI. They firmly believe that we are winning big.

This type of jingoism is good for our country to a certain level. If all of us are rational thinkers and watch only very well polished coverage, how ready will we be to fight for nation when real shi* hits the fan?

Too much sophistry will turn us into some rainbow candy only.

True, but only to a limit. Too much bullshittery and we might start slipping towards a pakistan type scenario where common sense is discarded to favour more convenient stories.

 

[Srinivas]

India-Pakistan jets clash in one of the largest dogfights in recent history

Fighting between the two nuclear rivals has intensified amid international concerns and calls for cooling off

www.newsweek.com

India-Pakistan: 125 Jets Clash in One of Largest Dogfights in Recent History​

is the scale being exaggerated??

One of the nights to remember in IAF history, I don't think Pakistani Generals have enough left in them to make any aggressive stance against India.

 

[Mikel]

Looks like we may still be sending drones to Bawahalpur. Their AD guns are engaged. Check War & Gore channel.

 

[Nishaanbaaz]

We now just can't back off . Need areas of PoK but no muzzafarabad or mirpur kind of rabid anti Bharat areas. Need to take Gilgit balistan that too we need to remove people who settled from main land pak.
Need to take higher posts so that there is no option for infiltration.

Need to take care of sindhi Hindus. Can't imagine what will be happening to them.

And baloch should be free . Tak Harmandir sahib.

This is min now that needs to be done. No backing off under international pressure

100%

> All of G-B + key strategic features/infiltration routes in what Pak calls "AJK"
> High Hindu Pop. % Districts in Eastern Sindh (I posted a map of such districts earlier in the thread) - both for the Sindhi Hindus whose lives are absolute hell today, and also for those Sindhis in India who didn't get an inch of their ancestral land or their own home state (they mostly live in GJ, RJ and places like Mumbai now)
> Strategic features like Akhnoor Dagger & Shakargarh Bulge in West Punjab
> Sharda Peeth in "AJK" and any significant Sikh sites close to the border in West Punjab (eg Kartarpur Sahib)

Not all of it necessarily has to happen at once. But these are absolute must-haves at some point in time. Ideally we would have had a leadership in '47 that didn't surrender them in the first place, but mistakes of the past have to be fixed eventually.

 

[Divine Light]

True, but only to a limit. Too much bullshittery and we might start slipping towards a pakistan type scenario where common sense is discarded to favour more convenient stories.

We are more into breaking news type. I also feel this is the best we can do to keep the public morale high.
Remember Balakot? We completely lost the info war. Our public was literally praying for Abinandan return. Our GoI had to ditch all other plans and focus on his return. It messed up the whole thing.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

This is the best time to test experimental weapons. Pakistanis won't risk more fighter jets as they probably lost 4-6 per reports on mainstream media and SM over last night and today.

These loitering munitions will work well with Bayraktar TB2/Akinci drones with PAF and Turkey probably wants to see how these work in a contested AD environment and compare with their data.

Remember that Turkey also operates the S400 so they may leverage performance data to US in exchange for reentry into F 35 program.

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If they have a portable version of CELiK KUBBE (Steel Dome) then it may be used as a counterpart of Akashteer (IACCS). It seems that due to drone attacks in the afternoon and tonight, Pakistan has probably lost a HQ-9/16 battery.

some of these systems are not 1-2-3 out of the box user friendly systems would take time to even train
people on them s-400 system reportedly take 10 weeks of technical training.

patriot missile system operator takes 20 weeks of advanced individual training.

 

[The Shrike]

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This is what has happened today. Basically a trial run of information warfare.

Indians ke psychi ko control kar sakte hain ya nahi ka trial hua hai.

Lol what sort of is this? I guess mods can just delete last 15-20 pages?
Only confirmed news is AA gun engaging some unknown targets in the Jammu area.