Operation Sindoor

[Nishaanbaaz]

A press conference of the Government of India is a formal event. The highest bureaucrat in the department has more weight in the eyes of the world than someone of lower rank by virtue of his office/ portfolio. The kind of ad hoc arrangement you are suggesting (subjectively judge who is the best public speaker from arbitrary set of people) can not be codified in a rulebook and hence isn't followed. My last on this OT

All this really comes down to is the typical, bureaucratic milquetoast *point deferentially to magical rulebook/Bible that must be followed no matter what for no particular reason* mindset. Something that has often been critiqued about GoI in several fields as hampering out of the box thinking/approaches and practical solutions. Congratulations if you want to stay stuck to that, but sooner or later some day even GoI will learn and adapt as it has done on other things. Information warfare and narrative building has to be fast, sharp and suave so that it makes an impression both at home and abroad; and it'll only have to get sharper as time passes.

 

[vampyrbladez]

Modi set out to remove asymmetric warfare as an option from the paki table, to tell them that any terrorist attack will spark military action. This objective has not been met. In fact JeM is planning an IC814-styled attack as revenge for Bahawalpur redecoration.

India can only meet its objective of removing asynchronous warfare from the paki table by continuing to escalate to the upper rungs of the escalation ladder (eg: sinking their ships, blockade, ground invasion), and inflicting territorial costs in PoK. All India has achieved is another ceasefire during which they'll plug their air-defence gaps and hit us with their next terrorist attack.

I don't think a single airstrike post the attack on Israel achieved anything with regarding to stopping Iran.

I can see another skirmish happening ~2030-2035 with PAF having 1-2 squadron of J 35 while we have another 40 Rafale F4 and 1-2 squadron of AMCA.

This is a continuous and escalatory process. Bringing Navy to the table means game over for their conventional strike capabilities. This would push Pakistan to the nuclear option.

This can vary from the French option of nuking a random piece of desert near the International Border to nuking a Indian city/military segment.

Under such a condition, the logical conclusion would be unrestrained nuclear retaliation by India leading to the ceasure of Pakistan as an entity.

There are lots of things that have happened last night which GoI is not revealing before the international audience. This is to provide an off-ramp.

India Inc will have to live with a war although they will demand heavy tax and policy concessions.

 

[shade2]

View: https://x.com/AdithyaKM_/status/1920799005606289899

So from this we can guess systems used in defense yesterday

1. L70 40mm anti air gun
2. Pechora SAM
3. SAMAR air defense missile system firing old R73 missiles
4. Akash SAM
5. S400 SAM

Apart from the gun these are integrated in IACCS system correct?

 

[shitsandgiggles]

Btw, using civilian airlines as shields for military operations is a warcrime

Thought so. This allows us to target some of their so called civil infra but I trust our authorities to act morally and responsibly

Members doing Speculative drama around De-escalation will be thread banned for 7 days.

Yep too many bhosdaspillers.

 

[BabaKhalbali]

Members doing Speculative drama around De-escalation will be thread banned for 7 days.

Please even reply to DM

Besides banning people

 

[Miss Firing]

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

He understood Pakistan well. Pathological liers.
Jehaadi kom still lying.


View: https://x.com/Incognito_qfs/status/1920802714302218398?t=ILjsMM2ISHrjYSMBJbnWLg&s=19

 

[shade2]

You realize this is just for the global audience right. Why would they say something like that in a press conference? You have to try and understand the optics and the narrative here, India is trying to paint Pakistan as the aggressor and India rightfully defending itself against Paki aggression, essentially forcing *Pakistan* to de-escalate.

Nothing in the press conference means *WE* are de-escalating. Heavy shelling is still going on in Poonch and elsewhere. Don't take these pressers as some gospel truth. It's mostly messaging.

We izzz good gai saar, dey iz aggressor saar, dey is esculate saar drama will continue till they succeed with their Swift Retard, at which point we will have to escalate even further.
No points for guessng what remains to escalate, they chilling in the Arabian sea and waiting for orders

 

[haldilal]

 

[gokusan]

See, the ball is in their court, whether they de-escalate from here. Why? Because they haven't accepted the attacks of last night or the previous night. That means Op Swift Retard 2.0 is not done.
We, on the other hand, have washed our hands, as the message that will be going to the world is what we gave them chance for de-escalation. For them, calming things means the mullahs will be furious, Munir won't be able to save his face.
Plus we called out turkey , mind you turkey is still a divided society.

 

[Master of Indus]

View: https://x.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1919849703912382939?s=19

I knew something was going to happen. Saw this video posted by a different poster. I was like NaaaaH Modi ji itna nahi Sun sakte, ki he will lightup pakistani skies to such luminesce! I thought something like Balakot might happen and this might be Fake News!

Soon, I realised he has ears of Ganesh ji, shubh arambh had begun. I watched it again and again is disbelief and almost felt emotional. How did you feel when you saw this??

Also, it's not over till he says it's over.

 

[silentassassin265]

It's very simple, to deter the enemy the cost you inflict has to be unacceptable to them.

I don't believe any material cost will matter to Porkies. The only thing that they won't be able to sell to their citizens is change of borders.

So unless we escalate to this level, their behaviour will never change and we will be stuck in the vicious cycle.

Yes, 25 of their people die daily in violent attack by militants they don't seem to care.
They will sell anything to their illiterate population and use their reach in international media to sell their educated population.
Unless we take some of their territory it will always be a defeat for us, just now they changed the narrative in 1965 war from failure to stalemate.

 

[Nicky]

We are officially not at war, there is no national emergency, and the last thing Modi wants is being seen as someone capable of nationalising manufacturing facilities--something that will scare away manufacturing investors (which is what chicoms want). We need to tell India inc to go fvck itself twice daily, and continue the climb up the escalation ladder.

Offer them all the incentives but if they sabotage war efforts put some exec away as a traitor. The owners will fall in line.

By the time we get to it, we might be in a full blown war and nationalising would be a last resort and temporary measure.

Either way, a few industrialists cant be allowed to sabotage strategic objectives. If we do, we truly are a banana nation.

 

[Augustus]

So
Turkish drones are getting utilised. Everyone guessed it already but good to have conformation. Seemed to be a veiled threat from our side that next Turkish import vehicle in Pakistan is ripe for our target.

Pakistan utilized civilian airspace as a cover for their gaandmasti. Expected from the likes of them. Using civilians as body bags .... where have I heard this before recently ? Yeah in the middle east.

 

[haldilal]

 

[haldilal]

View: https://x.com/NewsArenaIndia/status/1920826125363630448

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

Look at the Pakistanis politicians and Jernels giving interviews and presser --- no confidence at all. Their face are down and sad. They know what they have Lost. Only thing they can do is, make the fool of already foolish awaam.

 

[haldilal]

View: https://x.com/ANI/status/1920829094410830254

 

[shade2]

So
Turkish drones are getting utilised. Everyone guessed it already but good to have conformation. Seemed to be a veiled threat from our side that next Turkish import in Pakistan is ripe of our target.

Pakistan utilized civilian airspace as a cover for their gaandmasti. Expected from the likes of them. Using civilians as body bags .... where have I heard this before recently ? Yeah in the middle east.

It is messaging that diplomatic or other Baygon may be sprayed upon the Turkroaches if such gand masti by them continues

 

[Doreamon]

Chicoms have taken the Indian samosa hitting HQ-9 to heart, so they directed pakis to send a 500-strong FPV swarm to identify Indian AD positions, so they could be targeted via arty or grenade FPVs.

500 drones to detect AD ? Man they could have used some cheap chinese ones .. These military grade octacopter with 9kg pay load is costly .. They intended to attack .. But yes I agree with you that they are planning something big given statements from their PM and army spokesperson.