Operation Sindoor

[Varoon4]

View: http://x.com/ShefVaidya/status/1920785269675979198 Must watch this video

I haven't watched the video, but are the people there denouncing their military because it didn't succeed against India the past few days, or because their army is a supporter of terror against India, and controls power in their country, even with a civilian govt at the helm?

 

[Tumba]

View: https://x.com/Sweat00789/status/1920726996583088449?t=fW9qOI5tAuMZbj54WzQ7Qw&s=19

hey paki inbred abdul see this...

jazba nikalo bahanchodo ... IAF halala karke nikal gya pakistan ka

 

[shade2]

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/internati...eaknesses-of-india-s-air-force_6741047_4.html

Did india acknowledge loss of 3 fighter jets. ?

Is this the reason we are shying away from attack or just de escalation is required?

It's based on Le Sourceé Anonymouse from what i can read before the paywall.

There is no official acknowledgement.

Pretty much all the reporting over 300 fighter jets lost is based on ((( Gupt Sutro se hame pata chala hai ki )))

 

[vampyrbladez]

Because Israelis only partially understand the core currency in Islamic warfare--it's territory. Ghazis don't give a fvck about losing thousands of humans to their cause, warriors or civilians, or their cities being reduced to rubble. Their victory/defeat is only measured in territory. When Israelis started making advances in the Golan heights into Syria, it set off panic in the M world like no other. Even now their biggest insecurity is losing territory in Gaza, which is why they got the Egyptians to seal the Raffah border. The entire M world hyper-reacted to Ram Mandir, because it was loss of territory. Waqf Amendment has the potential to inflict territorial losses.

The Indian state has close to zero understanding of the currency of territory.

I believe they do. However territorial gain against a nuclear terro state means overwhelming conventional power which so far only US and maybe (40% of requirement) China has.

The reality of the world is that might is right. I can see this happening every 5 years until Pakistan collapses and loses the arms race against us due to economic, socio-political and military reasons.

Right now we are rapidly building up our Military Industrial Complex.

• Baba Kalyan has been called up so I think MGS/TGS is cleared already.
• Adani will get more orders for drones, guns, IFV, etc.
• Mahindra will get orders for APC, Humvee style vehicles, etc

There are many more names I can add to the list. This is my estimation of upcoming inductions heading into the 2030s.

Army

• Arjun MK1A (118) : Delivery complete by 2030-2033
• T 90M/ Bhishma MK3 (454) : Delivery complete by 2030
• ATAGS (307) : Delivery complete by 2030
• TGS (400) : Delivery only by 2030+
• MGS (800) : Delivery only by 2030+
• TMH 105 (200) : Delivery only by 2030+
• K9 (Batch II) : Delivery complete by 2027-2030
• K9 (Batch III) : Delivery complete by 2030+
• FICV : Delivery only by 2030+
• FMBT : Delivery only between 2030-2035+

Airforce

• Tejas MK1A (83+97) : Delivery complete by 2031-32
• Tejas MK2 (120 ?) : Delivery of 60%+ only by 2035
• Rafale F4 (40) OR F 35A (extremely unlikely) (40) : Delivery only by 2030+
• Su 30 MKI (12) : Delivery only by 2027-2030
• AMCA (40+ ?) : Delivery only by 2034
• Netra MK1A : Delivery only by 2030+
• Netra MK2 : Delivery only between 2030-2035
• Refueling Tanker : Delivery only by 2030+

Navy

The below table with approximations for ship commissioning shows that in the years 2033-2034, there may be no significant warship inductions (excluding submarines).

Commissioning Year/Ship Class	Ship Type	2024	2025	2026	2027	2028	2029	2030	2031	2032	2033	2034	2035	2036	2037	2038	2039	2040
Vishakhapatnam Class	Destroyer	1
Talwar Class (Batch III)	Frigate	1	1	1	1
Nilgiri Class	Frigate	2	2	2	1
P 17B Class	Frigate	2	3	2
NGMV	Corvette	1	2	2	1
NGC	Corvette	1	2	3	2
NGOPV	OPV	1	2	2	3	3
P 18A/B	Destroyer	1	2	2	3	2
Total

 

[madrao]

This forum is invaded by noobs. New members/Young generation should know this is not T20 match for everything to happen in a matter of few hours. What exactly are you expecting from foreign secretary? He is saying what he has been told to say. That is his job. The words won't count, it is our actions which counts and sends a message. And the other folks who are speculating about Porki scum sending their drones to test our air defenses and know their exact location, so that they can conduct a bigger operation later on, I say stop commenting and read the messages from senior members here. Boy, your brains are affected by social media which makes you crave for instant self gratification.

Perhaps mods should introduce a new rule that doesn't let noobs post till they have spent some active time on the forum.

 

[WARREN SS]

Awkward discrepancies in Indian Rafale shootdown image

The fog of war is alive as well in the aerial clash between India and Pakistan, with nebulous imagery swamping social media, exacerbated by limited comments from authorities.

www.flightglobal.com

Awkward discrepancies aane lagi hai mitro thora time do all rafale shot down BS will be gone

When dust settles

Pakistan will have no where to hide his face

 

[Numero]

Who laugh? No one..
Armed forced did a fantastic job. They don't reveal plans in a presser. You still didn't understand how Indian Tri services and Secret services are oprating "Op Sindoor". Sher shikaar krne se phle piche jaata hai.

They did fantastic. There's no doubt about that. Every Indian attest to it.
Nobody is asking to reveal the plans. Just provide a little bit of substance on what happened beside talking in the collective terms only.
Just give a little bit of information on Jf10 & F16 crash, defy Rafale argument, talk about our own BMD's. Due to lack of engagement from our side the majority content creators & defence analysts seem to have turned it into a Chinese jet promotion. Even our own media is not talking about our own ads.

 

[jazzy_b]

View: https://x.com/SecKermani/status/1920832569542582600

They are planning to escalate this and we are planning to bury asim muneer in an unknown graveyard

 

[Gandaberunda]

I meant even if we shot down an F16, Unkil would put such pressure that we'd never be able to publically boast about it with pictures of debris and parading the captured pilot.

To capture F-16 pilot and parade first F16 should come near border or ingress into our airspace . Pakis aren’t fools to do that when they have AMRAAMs and we are waiting with S400 for the bounty. Max they will fire AMRAAM from Dmax and turn tail.
If we shoot F16 and find debris no one can stop from getting public notice how porkies do but will be in public..

 

[Suryavanshi]

@Drwho has been banned from replying to this thread for throwing tantrum about unconfirmed aircraft losses.

 

[TringTringMonster]

Btw. Is Paki fauj protecting the cpec mobilizing towards India border?

It will be a juicy target to pressure the Chinese.

I expect to see attacks by BLA, TTP and rest to intensify. It's gonna be a long long affair.

Guns will blaze at border even if it goes out of news cycle.

I predict we haven't seen the peak of tensions. I feel it's gonna come a week later.

 

[silentassassin265]

Some are speculating that another skirmishes will take place around 2030.
If we back down now we will lose this opportunity, by 2030 porkroaches will have 100 j10, 2 squadron of j31 and their navy will get shitnese destroyers and submarines.
Our forces didn't do much procurement after 2019 so I don't think they will learn now, at best we will have 83mk1a and nilgiri frigates and naval rafale.

 

[Bleh]

View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1920827054821408819

Doubtless both are true.
There had been Turkish airplanes landing few days ago. Now two things have happened:

1. Pakistan has used-up 500 of their drones.
2. We know they are using civilian airliners as sheild.

Time to issue a warning that any civilian passenger planes present in the combat area won't be India's responsibility. IAF enforce no-fly zone all over Pak & IN blockade them & IA hit the Chink border roads at Gilgit. No more incoming military assets into Pakistan.

 

[Suryavanshi]

@abingdonboy
You have link to the discord.
Consider this your last warning.
We are not discussing loses until gormint confirms.
Discord is your friend for that purpose.

 

[Numero]

It is good this way. There is no need to create multiple threads. For better fun people can watch porn as the internet is cheapest in India.

If it's about watching porn then nobody would be talking on this.

 

[shade2]

On Deletion of "F16 & JF-17 Blunder shoot down" News Reports

I have a theory

>We indeed shot down both and debris fell in our territory
>Maybe pilots are also captured
>Govt broke this news to media themselves at first, but then decided...
>We want de-escalation
>So they ordered media walas to pull down such articles and reportage
>We're using these crashes and pilot captures as throwing a bone to the dogs of the Fauji foundation to de-escalate
>If they escalate alongside the conventional response we'll expose all this in the next Press Conference
>Otherwise everything will be resolved peacefully without doing cheer-haran of that Khaki Wardi in public


Knowing how these jihadi pigs operate though, they are planning for a big escalation since y'days one was a total flop show that they didn't even own up to

Anyway for now this is my theory.

 

[WARREN SS]

View: https://x.com/SecKermani/status/1920832569542582600

They are planning to escalate this and we are planning to bury asim muneer in an unknown graveyard

Munir wants to
Show awam something
Or he will be fried

He has no public mandate and perhaps the most hated Pakistani general
In pakistan history
After Zia

 

[silentassassin265]

View: https://x.com/SecKermani/status/1920832569542582600

They are planning to escalate this and we are planning to bury asim muneer in an unknown graveyard

There's no way porkroaches will escalate, they already have enough propoganda of downing imaginary jets and cancelling IPL with verification from librandu sellout foreign media. They don't have anything to gain from military action now .

For military action they will wait for 5 years till their military procurements are completed with j10 and j31

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

There's no way porkroaches will escalate, they already have enough propoganda of downing imaginary jets and cancelling IPL with verification from librandu sellout foreign media. They don't have anything to gain from military action now .

For military action they will wait for 5 years till their military procurements are completed with j10 and j31

I disagree, pak public is still upset with their military.

A loss of face means loss of control.... They will keep going on till they physically can.

 

[Nibbler]

Munir wants to
Show awam something
Or he will be fried

He has no public mandate and perhaps the most hated Pakistani general
In pakistan history
After Zia

Why wait for this

Should preemptively attack.

If the two subs they have that are operational can be sunk in a first shot its game over for their navy