Operation Sindoor

Pakistan is a counter balance to India in the same manner as Ukraine is to Russia currently. Both USA and China sustain it for the same reason, the world is intended to be G2.
Multi polar world order is not possible unless we thrown our weight around and become self capable. Maybe the other nation think that we can never fight the war of extinction like Ukraine can and hence they threaten us with lolipop of economy.
It's always a coin toss either you win or lose.
 
Thing is -

> Pakistan is a pet of Anglo/US & was literally a MUNNA, now a condom of CCP as well

> This is not 1971 but 2024, there is just one super power & not two

> This super-power is headed by a ego-centric person, who is in a position to make things EXTREMELY hard for our military, we have seen how US support to UA has impacted RUS, so there is a limit to which we can withstand US pressure

> We dont have the MIC/production capability of current Russia

> We do not have a BelaRus, North Korea or Iran to back us, Israel can help a bit but they have issues going

> We dont have major "Indo-philic" population in neighboring areas like RUS has pro RUS slavs

> There is a hostile China breathing down upon our neck

> We dont have the numbers to successively hold back a CCP intrusion when we are dealing with Pakistan

> Yes, Economy/Pensions/Doles/Poverty is also a thing

Any government will have to take into account all these things when deciding.



Pakistan will continue to be a pain for the conceivable future.....unless US/EU/CHINA get in a super gang bang & are in no position to bully us.
You are correct.

However, do remember that these things will always happen. Tomorrow there will be another egomaniac, or political alliances will change, or something else will happen. Can we base our future on this or what suits our interest?

India has very little respect at the world stage because of the appeasement and validation seeking mentality. Truth is no one respects this. We should be able to stand up for ourselves.

No one dare cross China these days because they singlehandedly go after their interests. You won't succeed 100% of time but the intent matters. Heck, even Vietnam achievement is hailed more in respect than us.

Look at the lives we lost to this conflict. Are you telling me they were all in vain? Just to do a fact finding exercise? To fine tune our escalation ladder? Or see what other countries reactions would be? Might as well not have started it then.

You need INTENT otherwise even terrorist states like our neighbour will come with swords at you and still terrorize you. (literal translation - low conflict bleed by a 1000 cuts).

We seem to always tie ourselves with these self imposed restraints and honorhood when the other party knows no such barrier. Wonder why.
 
And fingers crossed, more surprises this coming week
Maybe you're correct, we may see more surprises in the near future.

But I can assure you that it will always be from pakis not us. We will NEVER break the ceasefire for giving a "surprise".

And this precisely is the problem.
Is it possible that Indian airforce struck their nuclear arsenal, causing a sympathetic detonation?
Naah, it doesn't work that way. Fissile material is not like explosives that can detonate after catching fire.
 
Soldier killed by drone debris at Udhampur air base before ceasefireA soldier was killed at the Udhampur air base on Saturday after being hit by debris from a Pakistani drone intercepted by Army Air Defence, officials said.The incident occurred before the ceasefire announcement, amid heightened hostilities following India’s May 7 missile strikes on terror camps in Pakistan and PoK, PTI reported.
 
Fuel depots, ammo dumps and strategic aircraft can only be parked or kept at few locations. None of them have shifted and we have complete capability to hit them wherever they are.

Keep faith, only thing lacking is will. Administration made mistake to think de-escalation will happen but nothing is lost, only command is waiting to be given, or missile force and IAF will not disappoint us if given target to eliminate all strategic platforms.

I have 0 doubt on it.
Pakistan is such a shallow country as they found out in the last 3 days that there is no place they can hide things where Indian can't see or reach .
 
Broke some road? Nur Khan airbase is not operational currently, we hit a hanger in one of their airbases which got a Sqd Ldr killed and possibly a Awacs, citizens in their major cities are in panic mode as we are hitting them at will. We have achieved way more than what we set out to do. This was much more than Balakot. Do not go with what the Pakis are saying in SM as they would never accept defeat even if you destroy half of their military. They are the kind of people who will shit their pants if you pull a gun to their head, but even if you shoot them in the leg and leave them breathing they will spun around and say that you couldn't kill him as he is Mard e Chowmin and can't be killed by a kuffar. That's the mindset those jihadis live with.
Bhai just give me one reason that made us realise that it’s a good idea to go for cease fire .
Did they take care of terrorist infra ?
Did they promise or show some response which was positive to find Pahalgam terrorist ?
Did they agree to even a single thing we were looking for?
Did asim Munir act or apologies for his anti Hindu statement?

Every agreement after fight has some ground rules . What are those ? Infect they attacked us back. They still show this as their victory over india. They are saying that we crumble under their response.
There was no agreement just a order that we followed without even thinking once.
 
I'm lowkey thinking there would be a tweet tomorrow morning at 11-12 AM By our government officials thanking modi for operation sindoor and what a tremendous job he has done followed by a tweet by modi to thank our armed forces and state we are committed to fight terrorism in our region
If there isn't, means situation is still on the edge.
 
To all my blackpiller friends,
India did get played. I'll accept that. Pakistanio ke liye Maharana Pratap ki "don't fight an enemy who has surrendered" wale ideals nahi chalte. From what it looks like, the USA might not have brokered the deal, but they certainly did force us to figure out some kind of end to the conflict IMMEDIATELY.
Now, having gone over the MEA briefing, it is obvious that our Babus at least thought that was a done deal. And the briefing was also quite out of character because India hasn't been the one doing erratic late-hour press briefings since the start of the conflict.

My current analysis of the situation is that this MEA press briefing was a stop-gap measure to officially let the world know what a failure the USA's "ceasefire" deal was, and to indicate that India ISN'T the hostile side in the conflict, BUT the Indian Armed Forces will not be de-escalating. Remember, for the current Gov, optics matter quite a bit. At no point does GoI want to look like it's being disproportionately aggressive. Hence the standard "committed to de-escalation" punchline. We were waiting to see what optics were presented by Pakistan, and now that Shahbaz Sharif has claimed victory, the countdown for Indian kinetic action has started again. The halt in the conflict for 2-3 hours has to have rendered some time-sensitive intelligence useless. So, it might not be an immediate engagement of their airbases on provocation tonight like it was the last couple of nights. But this certainly isn't the end of the conflict. Modi took all parties into confidence before stepping on the kinetic escalation ladder. If he gives in now, especially AFTER Omar Abdullah tweeted about the blasts, he knows that his political popularity will be buried alive by his political contemporaries. Not just opposition but also his party men.

Something is certainly gonna happen. Activate the Naval front? Land incursion? Go back and finish the damaged airbases? We don't know yet, but something of this order is certainly gonna happen. There is certainly no "lack of intent" if we bombed 11 of the enemy's most strategic airbases, including in the vicinity of or at nuclear sites.

Let's accept all that as true.

Why would it change the fact that Porkies will try this 'dangerous' thing again and US will intervene again?

Worst is it was fucking VP that called Modi and not even Trump himself. Shameful.
 
Modi surrender? you surrendered.

Modi agreed to ceasefire because his top brass thinks like jokers what I can say? instead of playing safe they would have called Pakistan as an enemy state and then went full blazing for few days then quickly shifting to chowmeins post.

It's not my problem that jokers up there want to play star wars chess game despite having weapons to crack both Paikhanastanis and Chowmeins at the same time.

Modi is the leader, responsibility falls on him. Good on him for hitting paki air bases but trump squashed him.
 
We Were not at war Its Skrimish

We targeted All their Major Bases Until 4 PM yesterday

Just yesterday we attacked 12 Bases killing 50+ Personnel And Air assets

It Will take 5-10 K casualties To Take it in 2025

Only People Who Feel betrayed are One Who are fence shitters And What Dopamine Rush on the Dead Bodies Of Soldiers And Cries of there Widows.
Oh no sir iam no fence sitter , I will vote for him as I have done twice now .
One may not call it betrayal but a dejection that's it .
Ofcourse, these are my thoughts .
I respect the descision of the government.
I hope they have thought everything through.
 
Didn't know you guys were used to having videos of terrorists beheading people before they release it.

That said, I was talking about Jammu and other places that saw a drone attack.
I'm trying to understand where the Nagrota news came from. How did OSINT handles learn the details so quickly?

And what about the drone attack? Any pics of the damages? Last I saw, AD was actively engaging it.
 
Pakistan is a counter balance to India in the same manner as Ukraine is to Russia currently. Both USA and China sustain it for the same reason, the world is intended to be G2.
Multi polar world order is not possible unless we thrown our weight around and become self capable. Maybe the other nation think that we can never fight the war of extinction like Ukraine can and hence they threaten us with lolipop of economy.
It's always a coin toss either you win or lose.
Bhai ye thread close kar de, it's full ceasefire now, otherwise next you will see here itself, India age old famous dhoti shivering from new bies.
 
Pakistan is such a shallow country as they found out in the last 3 days that there is no place they can hide things where Indian can't see or reach .
Absolutely, all I ask GOI is to unchain navy and see sun rise from west.

Launch brahmos 🚀
Launch fighter jets ✈️
Launch torpedoes 🔥

Command strategic force to rain missiles on their air fleet. There is no doubt we can finish this, only question is will and guts to take losses.
 
Let's accept all that as true.

Why would it change the fact that Porkies will try this 'dangerous' thing again and US will intervene again?

Worst is it was fucking VP that called Modi and not even Trump himself. Shameful.
Trump makes no sense at the best of times . Would you prefer to talk serious stuff to KD or Trump?
 

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