Operation Sindoor

Wrong comparison, Ukraine is not puny by any means, and has full NATO support .

On the other hand Pak is puny and if we had just continued to escalate and did 'real' damage to their airbases instead of only runways and factored in IN attacks, it would have been game over for porkroaches before Unkil stepped in. That is the key here, longer you drag the war longer the pressure from west to cease it will be more.

Also can you please explain as to how just before the ceasefire there were announcements that the govt had warned porks that future acts of terror will be treated as war and yet when they violated the alleged ceasefire just 3 hours later the govt is not following thru on THEIR OWN WORDS and instead trying to cover up ?
If this isn't cowardly behaviour I don't know what is

Pakistan is amply supported by China as well.

even with full NATO support, Ukraine is no where near Pakis military capability. It's not even a comparison.

On other hand, Russia definitely has access to better arms in all 3 spaces compared to India. the only edge we have militarily on Russia is numbers.

It's a bit surprising that on a Defense forum we are thinking Paki military is a pushover and eliminating them is a walk in the park. That's basically the same absurd position Paki people take where they think we are pushovers and their superior shit would defeat us.

Ceasefire does not mean we will not hit them if any future terror attacks happen.
It basically means the things happening now will stop. Any future terror attacks will see India attacking Pakistan. That position has not changed as far as I know.
 
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Neither a single substantial proof of any explosion nor could we see any interception. Looks like some people making stuff up or Porkies are baiting with inconsequential drone movement.

Okay, this seems to be a problem now. This is gonna seem a hard 180 on my part, but something very sinister is up. At this point, the number of eyewitness accounts and AV footage of CVF and drone interceptions by SAMs I have seen, it is clear to me that these ARE HAPPENING. And the MEA has also acknowledged the CFV. But why the government is trying to downplay drone activity is beyond me.

Also, I went through yesterday's news reporting clips again. And as a matter of fact, there was a very stark change in the narrative being reported on ALL channels at almost the same time. So, something is certainly happening behind the curtains. Also, notice the silence of ex-servicemen in the defence establishment, who have been rather vocal throughout (for eg, Gen Naravane).

My initial grasp on the situation was that we are playing the same "shut up and watch me play" game here, but something seems to be out of place. India has stuck to a "proportionate and moderate" response, or rather a "custom equivalent" response, throughout this conflict, but right now, the defence apparatus seems to be eerily quiet even in its response. Merely intercepting the drones cannot be called a "proportionate response".

Right now, I am banking on India launching some kind of disproportionate military action (justified now that there's been a unilateral change of status quo from Pakistan, mere hours into an agreement), which might be why it is taking time. But the window of opportunity is closing fast for us. It needs to come within 24 hours of Pakistan's CFVs. If it doesn't, I'll be certain that we've given in to some kind of international pressure here.

Ik a lot of my fellow DFBians will bring up the fact that it was a victory for India in the sense that we demonstrated complete military dominance over our adversary during the conflict. But the way it ended, if it is the end that is, Pakistan's narrative will be what is remembered. This isn't a fair sport where a victor is empirically crowned. Victory in War needs to be claimed. And Shahbaz Shareef has claimed Pakistan's victory. History is always written by the victors, folks. Doesn't matter if the victory was true or not.

At this juncture, it is IMPERATIVE that we achieve a very visually prominent advantage over our enemy otherwise we'll be the losers of this conflict, 1 month down the line.
 
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I may be wrong but one of the base is having chinese Military instruments to watch for...

Why would we even care if there are Chinese people and instruments there in Pak?

The only country whose instruments and personnel we would be very careful about is US.
With China, I am pretty sure we would be targeting them instead of being careful.
 
Nukes it was. Washington was fuming we almost gelded their dog.

This will repeat in another 5-6 years when we decapitate Pakistan. Wait until then for an even more forceful response.

2040s is when we will be capable of challenging US just like China is today. Bide your time friends.

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It also appears that there might have been an underground sympathetic detonation of a small yield nuclear warhead due to our bombing at Noor Khan.

Pakis actually declared 11th May 2025 as 'Youm-e-Tashakur' aka Day of Gratitude for the ceasefire. :ROFLMAO:

We are probably in some kind of 'timeout' by US for beating Pakistan too hard. 😁


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Can you share where Officially Indian Govt downplayed any such activities?

The official statement from GOI is presser where they accepted that the violations are happening and military has been given a free hand to respond.
I am not sure if we are responding or not.
 
Why exactly is this so I don't have the slightest clue ?! I've been trying to understand Modi's psyche in this matter for the past decade but I've given up .Hellfire has been calling Modi , Nehru 2.0 since 2020. Unlike Nehru , Modi's no ahimsawadi.

The same Modi was also accused of planning & plotting in great detail reprisal attacks on Muslims in the aftermath of the Godhra train carnage
This is where we're making a mistake I feel. Modi is from RSS bkgd. All of RSS has a gandhiwadi peacenik attitude, which was why vhp & bajrangdal arose to fill the gap.
The 2002 thing was NOT modi planning riots on sullas as the leftist media wants us to believe, he genuinely wanted to put down the riots but was unable to control the rightful anger of hindus and the ensuing riots. Later like any good politician he used it to his advantage and crafted an image of 56in, which has since then crumbled as you can see - he really doesn't have stomach for war and esp. own casualties (remember Abhinandan episode ? ).
So Leaderji is at heart a baniya peacenik who wants to be left alone to do ekaanamy & bijness and japa tapa , and terror attacks are a distraction and he is forced to react just enough to show he is a strong man and maintain 56in image.
This is my analysis. I could be wrong, infact I dearly wish to be proven wrong being a long time Bhajipao voter & supporter.

I hope next time around we get Yogiji as supreme leader who I am guessing has more kshattra than Modi and will finish the job
 
Why would we even care if there are Chinese people and instruments there in Pak?

The only country whose instruments and personnel we would be very careful about is US.
With China, I am pretty sure we would be targeting them instead of being careful.
Why be careful of USA? Their first love had been , is and will be Pakistan. India doesn’t matter to them.
They are having china trade deal as we speak. Because they know insignificant india will agree what they want. Once deal done china USA will be cozy.
They never helped us rather history told us that they had always been our enemy.
Where as china for a surprise didn’t openly commit to Pakistan until yesterday.
When USA told us to keep quiet they came afterwards.
I for a change believe china is still ok compared to USA. China are on the face what they are.
 
The only thing I am going to say on this is.....

Following a series of setbacks on the ground, including heavy damage to forward bases and a noticeable drop in troop morale, Pakistan reportedly requested a ceasefire.

The move appeared to be less about de-escalation and more a calculated pause a chance to regroup while anticipating a lowered Indian defence posture.

I even checked media outlets from across the globe switched my locations DuckDuckGo to see where the ceasefire violations were being reported and found nothing. Radio silence.

This tactic isn’t new. They have done this in everywar, save for the Bangladesh liberation war, usmei ye chutiye kar hi nehi paye (sorry for the language, but we all agree that chutiya is nothing but a synonym for Pakis)

The pattern often begins with appeals to the United States for a ceasefire, followed by violations soon after, and ends with a narrative of self-declared victory pushed through online channels.
 
For any taunts from Pak trolls like "How many Rafaels?", Please respond with "How many Airmen at Bholar?"...as we all know Trained pilots are far more valuable assets than equipment like jets, make sure the silly salwars understand their losses,otherwise those airheads can't! 5 PAF pilots with 1 squadron leader is a big loss for PAF.
 
Planted by BJP itself.

Go check where the daughter of the man who announced this ceasefire in India works and you will understand everything.

No its planted by Raul Vinci itself

Also no Vikram Mistry negotiated nothing.

It was paki DGMO who asked for ceasefire.

MEA has said no change in status quo, IWT is in abeyance no talk whatsoever .. any terrorist act is act of war ..
 
perspectives can't be changed and neither can facts.

There is simply no country that can say with a straight face that they can stop islamic terror.
and my response was a 'No' when it comes to India as well.
Can we stop islamic terror? No
Are we doing a better job stopping it than we were 10 years back? yes

The different perspectives here is our opinion on what can achieved wrt Pakistan.
some think complete decimation is possible as of today, others think we need few more years to be in that position.
You belong to the former and I belong to the later.

As long as we are NOT being abusive, it is perfectly fine to be in that perspective of ours and be respectful of it.
Yup no abuse from my end.

just pure disappointment because we had a solid chance to inflict more permanent and structural damage for a few more days or weeks.

The military has performed with flying colours but as the saying goes


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It also appears that there might have been an underground sympathetic detonation of a small yield nuclear warhead due to our bombing at Noor Khan.

Pakis actually declared 11th May 2025 as 'Youm-e-Tashakur' aka Day of Gratitude for the ceasefire. :ROFLMAO:

We are probably in some kind of 'timeout' by US for beating Pakistan too hard. 😁


View: https://x.com/subyroy/status/1921378475497214321

We definately banged some burgers in that hangar/f16 base strike and the nuke storage brahmos strike near sargodha speaks for itself. Tabhi trump and co ki gaand khul ke flower ho gayi hai.

pakistan is playing like a pesky kid with their fathers support right now and is poking india with a stick.

Upto MEA and PMO to take their final call.
Jai hind
 
I am not a fan boy … I am respecting a Leader who has practically change the equation between pakistan and India

what use to happen when 100 innocent Indian civilians use to be dead by pakistani terrorists carried on some act in India … in almost every city..
NOTHING

now see what is happening

Did we stop before Trump tweeted before MEA press released we fckin send 2 Brahmos on pakistani awacs parking in Bholari base ..

Did we stop when pakis send drones in evening
we practically when to every major city with this on hour and took out terrorists and military assests where ever we could find
The leader had a chance to ensure no terrorist attack happens ever again and he capitulated.
Don't paint a diplomatic defeat as victory. Anything short of Pakistani surrender is a defeat in diplomatic terms.

Our armed forces have shown Rudra Pratap and unleashed hell onto Pakistan, and look what happened to the original strongman Modi. Shameful, pathetic, cringeworthy, servile.
 
Yup no abuse from my end.

just pure disappointment because we had a solid chance to inflict more permanent and structural damage for a few more days or weeks.

The military has performed with flying colours but as the saying goes


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There was no order to cease any operations dont go by these imagination of this panjabi service who never saw a day of action …

Indian units of tactical weapon systems were being deployed more emergency supplies for stores are being ordered from industry and frnds …
 
Folks, stop with your berating of babus and pulling up familial relations of Indian diplomats and government officials on an OPEN forum. Excuse my language @Mods, but paagal ho kya saale sab ke sab? Why instigate violence against people just cause you don't like how their dad (a government servant) spoke at a press conference that has nothing to do with his personal views?
Babus don't do wartime negotiations and policy changes during armed conflict. The onus of whatever happened and whatever happens henceforth falls on the elected government of India.
 

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