Operation Sindoor

[FIELD MARSHAL SAHWNSTEIN]

Couple of reality checks for disappointed jeets like me:

1. Green horde will never stop terror attacks. They are subhumans with low IQ and no future. Even Israel who people over here worship got hit way worse in oct than we ever did proportional to population. And their green horde is much smaller with no nukes/army. We just have to keep our defences strong and fund separatists in pakistan.

2. We have an economy smaller than Germany. Swallow our pride for 10 more years and go balls to the wall on drones, radars, AD and other indigenous platforms and MAINLY economy. Dont compare with China, or be mad at unkil. Power and money talks. They are still much bigger

Couple of reality checks to the pakis/chinks/burgers:

1. Not a SINGLE missile or drone did significant damage to us. Most of this was indigenous. Our R&D, Defence establishment and capabilities are tried and tested now. Propaganda wont work on other military folk who know how we dry bambooed pakis. PLUS we are the only military that fought a proper conflict agains TEMU and ice cream seller weapons - so SEA, Taiwan, Japs and americans will flock to us for exp/ checking out our war booty.

2. Chink camo painted Cement mixer truck HQ-Jajba are utterly useless. they might be capable only in african conflicts. We passed the trial by fire, they failed miserably. AND we are only still a 4.2 Trillion $ economy. In 5 years when the def budget is over 100 billion, and we consolidate our gains since we have first hand experience of modern war now, they will no longer have the balls to do a galwan. We will truly be at the big table.

3. The force overmatch between us and pak is ACTUALLY higher than what even our own def analysts and TV propagandists were chimping about b4 sindoor. Never would I have imagend iron dome vibes this early. Subcontinent chimps are our bitches now and they KNOW it. Our military violated PAK in broad daylight with arms tied, without even using our most powerful force.

5. If this ceasefire actually takes effect, we go back to normal, but pakis have to gt back to a fkin nightmare insurgent ridden shithole. The battle has just begun for them.

I finally managed to take the blackpill out of my ass and come back to reality. We are not in a bad position at all. Goras will always be goras but their government know what we are capable of now. If geopolitics was solely decided by gora validation on news networks / what few unserious countries like canada that are vassal states think falsely about us, we would not be in the position we are now. They hate when former colonies succeed. They tried to do a ful on anti china tarriff, propaganda ampaign and failed miserably. Russia has its boot on their necks. Why are we so bothered? Eventually the truth will come out abt rafales, pl-15 etc.

 

[chnvipgz]

This is absolutely wrong. Let me reiterate that India isn't run by any single person. Yes, we have a lot of "liabilities" in a lot of babu children being abroad and all, but none of them have the leverage to change things so drastically. If you think they do, then you're fooling yourself into giving them more importance than they have.
You're equating the influence of babus on domestic and civil matters with their influence on Indian military action and foreign policy. Granted, they had a lot more influence in such matters in previous governments but they simply do not have that much power anymore.

Not just bureaucrats but also politicians.Its high time to ban folks whose kids have foreign citizenship must not be allowed to continue in political or bureaucracy sphere.Even rahul gandhi must be banned as he is a foreign national.

Redirect Notice

 

[Sanglamorre]

This is absolutely wrong. Let me reiterate that India isn't run by any single person. Yes, we have a lot of "liabilities" in a lot of babu children being abroad and all, but none of them have the leverage to change things so drastically. If you think they do, then you're fooling yourself into giving them more importance than they have.
You're equating the influence of babus on domestic and civil matters with their influence on Indian military action and foreign policy. Granted, they had a lot more influence in such matters in previous governments but they simply do not have that much power anymore.

No influence on foreign policy you say?

So who exactly runs the country? Modi has no such foreign settled liabilities, that's a very good thing. But others in his cabinet, decision makers? Should we start pulling out where such people's children live?

 

[JConline]

I'll advice you all to leave things as they are.

It's a Sunday, go hug your family, get a drink or read books or whatever. Put these things out of your mind.

Do things that you can. No sense in worrying about things out of your control.

Be with your family and loved ones. Nobody knows when it can be our last day with drones and missiles and our own government denying it. Neither the foreign settled children of babus, nor the foreign settled forum members have the same worries.

Be with people who love you. Don't waste time debating who sold you. Try to face death with calmness when GoI brokered peaceful ceasefire compliant drones come for you.

Bruh, if you think that the members of the forum who are abroad don't have the same worries, you are delusional.
I, for one, am worried more than most Indians because my family is back home and I am unable to do anything to protect them in case an emergency befalls them!
Just cause we aren't on the soil of our motherland doesn't mean that we are any less involved emotionally and mentally.

 

[JConline]

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No influence on foreign policy you say?

So who exactly runs the country? Modi has no such foreign settled liabilities, that's a very good thing. But others in his cabinet, decision makers? Should we start pulling out where such people's children live?

FFS, read what I've written in my multiple reiterations before you give your loose arguments. Dr. Jaishankar might be the Minister of External Affairs, but he is just that. He holds an office. NOT THE REINS TO INDIA, unlike some in Pakistan do! If you deny that, then you fundamentally deny the very fabric of Government in India.

 

[srev2004]

Couple of reality checks for disappointed jeets like me:

1. Green horde will never stop terror attacks. They are subhumans with low IQ and no future. Even Israel who people over here worship got hit way worse in oct than we ever did proportional to population. And their green horde is much smaller with no nukes/army. We just have to keep our defences strong and fund separatists in pakistan.

2. We have an economy smaller than Germany. Swallow our pride for 10 more years and go balls to the wall on drones, radars, AD and other indigenous platforms and MAINLY economy. Dont compare with China, or be mad at unkil. Power and money talks. They are still much bigger

Couple of reality checks to the pakis/chinks/burgers:

1. Not a SINGLE missile or drone did significant damage to us. Most of this was indigenous. Our R&D, Defence establishment and capabilities are tried and tested now. Propaganda wont work on other military folk who know how we dry bambooed pakis. PLUS we are the only military that fought a proper conflict agains TEMU and ice cream seller weapons - so SEA, Taiwan, Japs and americans will flock to us for exp/ checking out our war booty.

2. Chink camo painted Cement mixer truck HQ-Jajba are utterly useless. they might be capable only in african conflicts. We passed the trial by fire, they failed miserably. AND we are only still a 4.2 Trillion $ economy. In 5 years when the def budget is over 100 billion, and we consolidate our gains since we have first hand experience of modern war now, they will no longer have the balls to do a galwan. We will truly be at the big table.

3. The force overmatch between us and pak is ACTUALLY higher than what even our own def analysts and TV propagandists were chimping about b4 sindoor. Never would I have imagend iron dome vibes this early. Subcontinent chimps are our bitches now and they KNOW it. Our military violated PAK in broad daylight with arms tied, without even using our most powerful force.

5. If this ceasefire actually takes effect, we go back to normal, but pakis have to gt back to a fkin nightmare insurgent ridden shithole. The battle has just begun for them.

I finally managed to take the blackpill out of my ass and come back to reality. We are not in a bad position at all. Goras will always be goras but their government know what we are capable of now. If geopolitics was solely decided by gora validation on news networks / what few unserious countries like canada that are vassal states think falsely about us, we would not be in the position we are now. They hate when former colonies succeed. They tried to do a ful on anti china tarriff, propaganda ampaign and failed miserably. Russia has its boot on their necks. Why are we so bothered? Eventually the truth will come out abt rafales, pl-15 etc.

This is actually our fallacy. We pat ourselves on the back when we are triumphant but we don’t neutralize the threat. We show mercy when it should not be shown.

 

[MysuruPraveen]

ISRO is our silent partner for the success. In coming years isro will launch several satellites for intelligence and surveillance during the Indian DefSpace Symposium.
DRDO + ISRO are always beast.
Now we should not compare with pak. Eye to move towards china/ US/Russia

 

[chnvipgz]

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If you're blackpilled like me (I was)
-Don't seek validation that we did more damage to them they couldn't inflict much upon us and still western Media runs paki propaganda.
-our AD took there projectiles down we saw it.
There's couldn't
The pic tell all

Didn't we face similar but less damage like this on our forward bases.We should have gone for ghq,isi hq.

 

[Trial By Fire]

Military power doesn't exist in vacuum, usa seems so fearless and powerful because they are surrounded by oceans from two sides and weak neighbour from other two. India has a rabid dog with nukes in west and a world's second strongest country in north, our circumstances are completely different.

Even usa grew to be superpower, precisely because european powers weakened themselves with ww1 and ww2. USA's rise is a one of kind event in history.

If the Porky nuke threat (in reality, bluff) is so dangerous and our circumstances so unbelievably dangerous and precarious as you paint them to be, then I would say launching this entire Operation was an extremely risky and reckless thing to do. What if Porkies launched nukes, since you obviously consider that to be in the realm of possibility?

Instead of this Operation, we should have done, as gora nations were telling us, "an independent and impartial investigation to find out the culprits".

And since our position is so dangerously precarious, I assume retaking PoK is just a fantasy pipe dream. It's fine if you or the Gormint think so, I just want some honest answers; no more being lied to about "56 boldness will ensure PoK is retaken back". I would appreciate it if they honestly proclaimed: "Guys, our situation and circumstances are extremely precarious, Porky will launch nukes. So forget PoK, let's focus on ekanami and 10 trillion dollars".

 

[srev2004]

View: https://youtu.be/i4SreLh6fvM?feature=shared

 

[Varoon4]

Not sure if this was missed, certainly warrants major retaliation. IAF sergeant, BSF officer killed in Kashmir

IAF Sergeant, BSF Sub-Inspector martyred in cross-border firing by Pakistan in Jammu

Two Indian Armed forces personnel were martyred, one Indian Air Force officer, and other a BSF Sub-Inspector while seven others from his unit were injured in the past 24 hours amid intensified...

www.thehansindia.com

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

Couple of reality checks for disappointed jeets like me:

1. Green horde will never stop terror attacks. They are subhumans with low IQ and no future. Even Israel who people over here worship got hit way worse in oct than we ever did proportional to population. And their green horde is much smaller with no nukes/army. We just have to keep our defences strong and fund separatists in pakistan.

2. We have an economy smaller than Germany. Swallow our pride for 10 more years and go balls to the wall on drones, radars, AD and other indigenous platforms and MAINLY economy. Dont compare with China, or be mad at unkil. Power and money talks. They are still much bigger

Couple of reality checks to the pakis/chinks/burgers:

1. Not a SINGLE missile or drone did significant damage to us. Most of this was indigenous. Our R&D, Defence establishment and capabilities are tried and tested now. Propaganda wont work on other military folk who know how we dry bambooed pakis. PLUS we are the only military that fought a proper conflict agains TEMU and ice cream seller weapons - so SEA, Taiwan, Japs and americans will flock to us for exp/ checking out our war booty.

2. Chink camo painted Cement mixer truck HQ-Jajba are utterly useless. they might be capable only in african conflicts. We passed the trial by fire, they failed miserably. AND we are only still a 4.2 Trillion $ economy. In 5 years when the def budget is over 100 billion, and we consolidate our gains since we have first hand experience of modern war now, they will no longer have the balls to do a galwan. We will truly be at the big table.

3. The force overmatch between us and pak is ACTUALLY higher than what even our own def analysts and TV propagandists were chimping about b4 sindoor. Never would I have imagend iron dome vibes this early. Subcontinent chimps are our bitches now and they KNOW it. Our military violated PAK in broad daylight with arms tied, without even using our most powerful force.

5. If this ceasefire actually takes effect, we go back to normal, but pakis have to gt back to a fkin nightmare insurgent ridden shithole. The battle has just begun for them.

I finally managed to take the blackpill out of my ass and come back to reality. We are not in a bad position at all. Goras will always be goras but their government know what we are capable of now. If geopolitics was solely decided by gora validation on news networks / what few unserious countries like canada that are vassal states think falsely about us, we would not be in the position we are now. They hate when former colonies succeed. They tried to do a ful on anti china tarriff, propaganda ampaign and failed miserably. Russia has its boot on their necks. Why are we so bothered? Eventually the truth will come out abt rafales, pl-15 etc.

So many people forget about economics and our dependence on western goodwill, what will happen to all the investment, our IT sector, our exports if we decide to go rouge as many people here suggest, who do we ally ourselves with then ? China?

I agree with our economics section,next 5-10 years are crucial for us in-terms of economics, you can't be a 4 trillion dolla economy, talking about taking on a 30 trillion and 20 trillion dollar economy. It's not cowardice, it's just logical thinking, even china bid it's time for so many decades. People are emotional right now, but that won't fix anything.

We did hit them hard, their air bases were attacked for first time since 1971, we attack pakjab straight no bombing some hill in pok.

 

[Muzh]

I truly wish we should've completely decimated their Airforce so they'll never try to do anything sinister with us no more but we gave up due to international pressure bhai dimag ka bhosda ho gya we really had a good chance.

Unfortunately, another showdown with Pakistan is coming very soon. This one will be more intense than the one we just wrapped up. It looks like USA is planning to use Pakistan as a launchpad to attack Iran. This is because, there is strong pressure on Arab governments from their people to not cooperate with the US in launching attack on Iran. Historically, when Pakistan finds itself in good graces of USA, it starts trouble with India; this also explains the arrogant behavior of Pakistan. This is also why USA is very keen on facilitating ceasefire in Ukraine - Russia war.

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

Not sure if this was missed, certainly warrants major retaliation. IAF sergeant, BSF officer killed in Kashmir

IAF Sergeant, BSF Sub-Inspector martyred in cross-border firing by Pakistan in Jammu

Two Indian Armed forces personnel were martyred, one Indian Air Force officer, and other a BSF Sub-Inspector while seven others from his unit were injured in the past 24 hours amid intensified...

www.thehansindia.com

A Paki drone hit the Air Force Hospital in Udhampur? I mean the IAF Sergeant. He is a medical assistant. The Press Conference did say that we took a few hits to equipment and personnel in three airbases, Udhampur was named.

Hopefully IA now at least invests in 1000 Sudarshan CIWS to replace the Bofors L70.

 

[Sanglamorre]

FFS, read what I've written in my multiple reiterations before you give your loose arguments. Dr. Jaishankar might be the Minister of External Affairs, but he is just that. He holds an office. NOT THE REINS TO INDIA, unlike some in Pakistan do! If you deny that, then you fundamentally deny the very fabric of Government in India.

Government of India is as dysfunctional as government of Pakistan. Elites are the same in both countries.

Did you forget the rot that was just before 2014? The political leaders might have changed, but the beureucratic machinery remains the same.

You tell me something, why is the MEA doing the ceasefire crap? It's because they're the ones most compromised and were the easiest to influence.

What will Modi do when his own ministers come crying Modiji mere bacche ko bachalo, chahe 100-200 aur indians mar jaye. Please Modiji kal uska gender studies dance hai. Hum khud media manage kar denge, 200-300 jo bhi ho sab daba denge, please ap uska green card bachalo.

 

[hurrians]

.war in real world and e-war here with lot of friendly e-fire incidents too
.war is bad for economy, not so, ask the admins here
.Americans/reuters bringing the pl-15 gigachad chinamen bogeyman to fund their own mil complex with new contracts
.moodiji well as always abused for starting ops, for partially escalating and then for agreeing for ceasefire from all spectrum of ideologies
.trump saudis chini didn't have to do anything substantial both sides were eager for ceasefire
.a new normal was set when hinterland/mainland of so called pakjabi force was hit
.this is not a zero sum game , the op was started not as a war but simply as a posturing , the msg was sent across
.did pakis get some chooran to sell to their masses , yes they did
.was our operation effective,yes it was to the extent it's revealed in open sources, did we take some hits, yes as would happen in any millitary ops
.we (in the forum) have to be more rational, less emotional

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

If the Porky nuke threat (in reality, bluff) is so dangerous and our circumstances so unbelievably dangerous and precarious as you paint them to be, then I would say launching this entire Operation was an extremely risky and reckless thing to do. What if Porkies launched nukes, since you obviously consider that to be in the realm of possibility?

Instead of this Operation, we should have done, as gora nations were telling us, "an independent and impartial investigation to find out the culprits".

And since our position is so dangerously precarious, I assume retaking PoK is just a fantasy pipe dream. It's fine if you or the Gormint think so, I just want some honest answers; no more being lied to about "56 boldness will ensure PoK is retaken back". I would appreciate it if they honestly proclaimed: "Guys, our situation and circumstances are extremely precarious, Porky will launch nukes. So forget PoK, let's focus on ekanami and 10 trillion dollars".

Operation was risky and govt took the risk , that's why is was done,thier nuclear bluff was called ,I don't why do you think it's all or nothing, I didn't say that Pakis having nuclear weapons gives them freehand it absolutely doesn't as we seen now when we openly fucked thier air bases and major cities

The point was in a general context, pok being taken back is whole different ball game. Pok is good for optics but not prectical.

 

[THESIS THORON]

Wtf is happening


View: https://x.com/Vikspeaks1/status/1921348032961933689?t=ek-Bj1OLY-Ici32TkumnMA&s=19

 

[JConline]

So many people forget about economics and our dependence on western goodwill, what will happen to all the investment, our IT sector, our exports if we decide to go rouge as many people here suggest, who do we ally ourselves with then ? China?

I agree with our economics section,next 5-10 years are crucial for us in-terms of economics, you can't be a 4 trillion dolla economy, talking about taking on a 30 trillion and 20 trillion dollar economy. It's not cowardice, it's just logical thinking, even china bid it's time for so many decades. People are emotional right now, but that won't fix anything.

We did hit them hard, their air bases were attacked for first time since 1971, we attack pakjab straight no bombing some hill in pok.

We don't need to go rogue. We need to make sure we have the last word. That's that!
That is what was happening till this "ceasefire" was agreed upon.
India was making Pakistan climb the escalation ladder and then beating them at every step. That was bloody brilliant! And that is what needs to continue. That way, we can claim retaliation through custom equivalence, avoiding international scrutiny (the mistake that Russia and Israel made).

 

[JConline]

Government of India is as dysfunctional as government of Pakistan. Elites are the same in both countries.

Did you forget the rot that was just before 2014? The political leaders might have changed, but the beureucratic machinery remains the same.

You tell me something, why is the MEA doing the ceasefire crap? It's because they're the ones most compromised and were the easiest to influence.

What will Modi do when his own ministers come crying Modiji mere bacche ko bachalo, chahe 100-200 aur indians mar jaye. Please Modiji kal uska gender studies dance hai. Hum khud media manage kar denge, 200-300 jo bhi ho sab daba denge, please ap uska green card bachalo.

This discredits everything you have to say, Period.

Go stick your opinions where the sun don't shine, buddy!