Operation Sindoor

[Varoon4]

^^^
Is the significance of this gate opening( of the Salal dam) that it might/will cause flooding in Pakistan?

 

[DingDong]

I am enjoying the drubbing these IT cells and the SM sycophants of the current government are getting from the RW ecosystem.

Some people say that, it was not the nuclear threat or the China factor, but the Rawalpindi bombing that spooked the Americans, they were not expecting such deep strikes.

I am keen to understand whose balls have been squeezed to extract this "unconditional and abrupt" ceasefire? Does the US have any dirt on somebody close to the government (might be a politician or a businessman)? Is somebody higher up in the government being blackmailed by the US?

Remember the Kandahar surrender? The terrorists were freed to protect the relatives of bureaucrats and politicians.

 

[whatever]

lets see if goi and mea atleast has the balls to come forward and make it clear to this orange buboon that kashmir is Indias intergral part and there are no discussions to be done on it. Atleast come out and say this or this part of his tweet may have implications and open up interference in Kashmir. I doubt it when they are not even owning up and clearifying on the facts of repeated drone incursions being reported at various places.

 

[Cheepek]

How will China cope from this? India has emerged a far more potent threat to them than they could have ever imagined!

Will China start supplying their top of the line equipment- now that whatever they supplied earlier has proven to be shit- to Pakistan and risk leaking it to American hands?!

 

[Dhartiputra]

Can any DFB members with technical knowledge in seismology gather three months of earthquake data from Pakistan's earthquake-prone areas and compare it with the recent data from May 8 to 10? I was the first one in DFB to point out the earthquake in Pakistans balochistan. This is our reason to target their nuclear storage facility. Also, can we distinguish between a nuclear weapons test and a natural earthquake?

 

[Degenarate]

There is a stage of not bending over to the point that US had to send a AC to Bay of Bengal.

Sanctions lagane dete. Phir ceasefire karte. B2 aane dete, phir dekhte.

What exactly is the coercion? At this stage it can either be, full on sanctions or nuked by USA. In either case, what is stopping USA from asking Pakistan to attack us and then telling us to not attack them or they'll do either or both?

I am assuming your first para is referencing to the 1971 war. But you conveniently left out the part that the 7th fleet was deterred by the nuke sub sent by Soviet Union. Who is gonna play the Soviet Union now? To deter a bully you need a equally strong bully at your side.

Now coming to the your later part. Sanctions lagne dete? You do realize that US sanctions mean they will obstruct the trade in dollars, which practically means you are fucked up economically. Not to mention the western capital will take a flight back home, crashing your markets. Hyperinflation will take a grip. Also our military is dependent on foreign vendors so they are screwed as well.

I am failing to understand the point you are trying to make here. It's almost sounded FAFO, like those craziest across the border. Pakistan will keep attacking unless you completely destroy them. You are fighting a civilization battle here. Even if they lose majority of their military assets they will keep coming at you. Op Sindoor we have the capabilities to strike their heavily defended bases at will, something even our most optimistic and enthusiastic military strategist wouldn't have guessed.

 

[Airborne22]

Bhai mere ankhon k samne se drone gye the towards Vaishno Devi Hills our guys didn't fire i don't know why

AD response was super delayed as if hands were tied. My whole night went in responding to distress calls reported by PCR. Drones were few over jammu city area but AD didn't work right away. How was the density of drones over your area ?

 

[KrishRus]

View attachment 34974This man showed middle finger to orange man @ white house, when orange man threatened him and pressurized him to sign ceasefire. Huge respect to this man.

He has no choice, his people and his situation is forcing him to stay the course and atleast a portion of wurope is still there who wants war with Russia till the last man.

There is a high likelihood that like in Pakistan, his life would be in danger if he accepts the Russian victory and territorial annexation.

In his case, the lack of choice in his countries future. (it's future dreams for being anything other an experimental country for woke liberals and neocons have been dashed - it ain't going to be a an economic player, tech player,etc . Just another middle income Eastern European country except worse as they they accelerated the destruction of their own demographics even worse and they will be forced culturally and politically to accept infinity migrants) means that his choices were very simple, either way ukraine is fucked and he would be dragged and killed if he is seen to signing the papers for accepting territorial concessions for peace. So might as well go full ahead into war even though it would only slow things down.

India on the other hand has a lot of things it has achieved and lot of other political and economic considerations and goals/dreams and achievements, which means our decision making is a lot more complicates.

 

[haldilal]

View: https://x.com/StratNewsGlobal/status/1921437613338316936

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Yes ofc no relinquishment until we get things in concession

No. There is no concession on planet worthwhile, except for land exchange, that merits giving up legal land claim. Please see examples of historic great powers, from china to russia to uk to usa, no one ever gives up legal land claim without other land being given to it - Russia giving up Alaska is an exception, simply because Russia literally couldnt prevent Alaska from being annexed by 2 solid viking ships, so cut off its colony was from any military logistics, that it just sold off a far-off colony for cash - pretty much the only exception i can think of, of the rule.
Either way, we aint giving up the geo-stratigic gain of cutting of China from direct access to the Arabian sea - for we cut off GB from China, China has no chance except getting in through persian gulf or coming in though malacaa/BoB to get to arabian sea.
This geo-stratigic containment advantage of our main civilizational rival, dictates that we never ever give up claim to PoK, no matter what.

 

[TringTringMonster]

Indian navy can still cause a soft blockade near Karachi. It would be enough for their economy to nosedive.

Besides, Indian govt has kept Indian navy out of limelight. Meaning it might be somewhere near.

Even just parking the naval Fleet just outside pakis territorial waters is enough

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

View attachment 35025lets see if goi and mea atleast has the balls to come forward and make it clear to this orange buboon that kashmir is Indias intergral part and there are no discussions to be done on it. Atleast come out and say this or this part of his tweet may have implications and open up interference in Kashmir. I doubt it when they are not even owning up and clearifying on the facts of repeated drone incursions being reported at various places.

a couple of things i want to understand:
1. why did India allow any mediation from a 3rd party especially when the entire thing started from Kashmir, it has been GOI policy for some time now that this is a bilateral issue between India and pak
2. the way trump, rubio have been tweeting it seems that they are trying to put India and pak on parity in terms of military achievements and diplomacy

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Can any DFB members with technical knowledge in seismology gather three months of earthquake data from Pakistan's earthquake-prone areas and compare it with the recent data from May 8 to 10? I was the first one in DFB to point out the earthquake in Pakistans balochistan. This is our reason to target their nuclear storage facility. Also, can we distinguish between a nuclear weapons test and a natural earthquake?

I have taken a few geology courses in uni days and first thing about nuclear tests - you need proper equipment to detect it and its one of those scenarios, where if you HAVE the proper equipment, there is no hiding a nuclear test, but if you dont have it, there is no proving it. PERIOD.

reason being, we have a good idea of what magintude earthquakes happen at what depth in what parts of the world and at what depth does various active pate boundaries act out for earthquakes. Plus, earth's crust isnt one solid same density piece, even before the mantle, so different depth earthquakes generates different types of waves too.
So long story short is, to detect a nuclear test, you basically have to have equipment that tells you 'this 4.5 quake is impossible at this depth if its lacking x wave or y wave component, must be manmade- someone expoloded a nuke'. Ie, you need a full record of the seismological record of this region - from some geology department AND have the seismograph of this event, as seismograph output shows these various waves, their frequency, amplitude and depth of them, etc.
With this, you have absolute proof, without this, you can tell NOTHING by comparing various earthquake magnitues, coz any magnitude is possible at any fault-line if you dont know its locus depth.

THAT is the geological gotcha. And this we can do from sitting around the world too, since every earthquake travels through the mantle to the other side and we have sophisticated equipments to detect it.
That being said, we are in middle of war- this is just a ceasefire, dont expect govt to confirm or deny any paki nuke tests without direct paki claims of doing it. it doesnt suit us to give any spectrum to this news, whether its true or not - because nuclear sabre-rattling is not applicable when we hit below nuclear threshold.

 

[Nutcracker]

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OperationSindoor
My thoughts as the conflict comes to an uneasy end.

A thread

India has achieved its objectives - punitive strikes following the Pahalgam terror attack and showing our strength after Pakistan’s attempts to target India with drones and missiles.

Our objective was limited and not to capture territory. We were not mobilised for it.

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After Pahalgam terror attack, India struck 9 terror targets in Pakistan and PoK. Importantly, strikes reached deep into PakJab, Bahawalpur HQ of JeM, Muridke of LeT.

Reports suggest kin of LeT & JeM chiefs among other terrorists were killed. JeM’s own chief led funeral prayers.
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On the night of 07/08 and the day, in the face of Pakistan relentless shelling on civilians and drone attacks, India attacked several cities in Pakistan- including Pindi, Lahore, Islamabad and Karachi with drones, targeting air defences, C&C etc. One HQ-9 was destroyed.

Even before Pak could think about retaliating, India went up the escalation ladder.
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Night of 08/09 saw a wave of drones from Pakistan on multiple Indian cities, using civilian air traffic as a shield. India not only defended but responded by striking Pak air defences and keyassets.

It showed our strength in air defence and Pak’s weakness. Reports of Pak several aircraft being shot down.
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On 09/10, after another attack—including one intercepted over Delhi—India delivered its strongest blow yet:
All major Pak air bases were hit. Runways made inoperable. Their air defences exposed. Again reports of their aircraft being shot down.
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At every step, India controlled the escalation ladder. No off-ramps were given. The onus was put on Pakistan to de-escalate. India hit Pakistan wherever we wanted to, and Pakistan couldn’t stop that. The message has been delivered.

The materiel damages caused will have to be assessed.
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With the ceasefire in place:

Pakistan’s vow to retaliate for strikes on terror camps remains unfulfilled, as India didn’t allow that by its escalation domination.
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The Indus Waters Treaty remains suspended, despite Pakistan calling it an act of war. They can’t reverse it. India will only renegotiate it - and that is subject to Pakistan’s behaviour, which is unlikely to change. So the treaty will remain in abeyance for a long time.

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[Varoon4]

There are some awful messages by Indians in the comments sections of some Indian TV channels, very sour, negative, unappreciative. Stuff like "Pakistan will rebuild those bases with IMF and American help"

India has just struck a major blow, militarily, economically and psychologically, at Pakistan, and all these posters can think of is "all or nothing" i.e that there should not be a single functional air base ever in that misbegotten country. Of course, that would be wonderful, but is it realistic in the short run. Just appreciate and respect what has been done. Evidently, that is hard to ask of some people!

 

[haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars even the Amerike RW accounts are making fun of the Trump now, lol, priceless.


View: https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1921233449014165904

 

[MasterChief]

So.. Indian strike on Nur Khan Airbase close to Pakistan Strategic Plans division.. led US to tell Modi to deescalate as Pakistan feared a decapitation strike and would consider nuke use


View: https://x.com/ItsShubhangi/status/1921369256471527824?t=gkDwgPp9JVA1tCQoO5BXCw&s=19

 

[Wayfarer]

View: https://x.com/FrontalForce/status/1921442339932745848

 

[Mikel]

Pakis also get preferential international media headlines because they give out distinct and concrete numbers, even when they are complete fabrications - "3 IAF jets shot down, 4 bases attacked, 15 Indian soldiers killed, 4 Soldiers taken POW."

Compare that with the Indian announcements, "Significant damage caused to enemy airbase", "Many terrorists killed".

Which one do you think would make for better catchy headlines, that would make people click their articles and reports?

I've been calling for better BDA for many years now, asking for the Armed forces to start giving out numbers. Who cares if you are off by 15-20%? Nobody's going to care about corroborating all that.

 

[haldilal]