Operation Sindoor

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Did you forget we have nukes now or what???
We gave the nuke subs, AC and whatnot.

Second, sanctions are aimed at getting a result. Russia has sanctions as long as they keep fighting Ukraine. Negotiations can start after it has been put on us as a leverage.
What's the part you didn't get? The pressure to deescalate was from US, you want us to use our nuke card to ignore the pressure and Trump would have taken that lightly? Did you see what Trump tweeted? He is going to start trade and presumably arms sales and military aid to Pakistan just because they went to him with a begging bowl, massively stroking his ego. If India ignored there's no guarantee that this man child wouldn't have a public outburst about us, threatening with sanctions.

Also please look up Russia and see their massive resources and huge military industrial base before trying to equate their situation with us. They also have an equal behemoth China by their side. We have none. US sanctions mean your Tejas program is done, Israeli coperation can be over if Trump says so, Russia won't be able to match your military hardware demands and France will extract your kidney and liver to each platform they sell to you. Geopolitics don't run by jingoism but pragmatism. We have done much much more than we ever imagined a few weeks ago. Don't expect everything to happen at one go. Pakis will provide you plenty of opportunities in the future so each time we have to increase the cost to them.
 
It's probably the first time in history that a nuclear-armed nation raided another nuclear-armed country blew up terror camps in broad daylight, hit multiple airbases, even went as far as striking nuclear storage facilities. And yet, some people still claim the government failed ? I guess that 80 IQ is really starting to seep through.

what do you think was the end game .?
 
They have already started flooding the SM with praises for their "Supreme Leader". How foolish these people think the RW ecosystem is? I think that they are still trusting the TINA factor.

I am really hoping hoping a few electoral setbacks to bring some sense back to the top leadership, even better a change in the top leadership. Jaishankar's gang must be purged out of the sensitive positions. Honor of the Ministry of Defense must be restored.



Kindly, don't shoot the messenger. This factor cannot be denied.
Electoral setbacks will not bring any sense. bjp not getting any majority itself was an electoral setback yet it aggressively rolled out schemes for muslims and all.

The only thing that can wake him up is that if the RW ecosystem stops bootlicking him and hold him accountable for messing up.
 
No one can confirm that news originated from pakistani tv channels they reported it for mere seconds and then nothing.
It was a nuclear detonation to bring usa and china for the face saving of pakistan.
My take is china saved pakistan ass this time as india was pounding pakistan after violation of ceasefire it was china who gave the message of standing with pakistan and wont tolerate indian boots on pakistan which led indian govt to rethink and ceasefire.

Also, world nations which are nuclear power wont allow Bharath to call the nuclear bluff of pakistan. Such a norm will affect the credibility of all nuclear powers using nukes as a deterrent.
We pushed the reality for pakistan tooo far, so much so that it was in turn affecting the credibility of other nuclear world nations using nuke as a detterant.

From attacking all the airbases of another nuclear power, pakistan, to scoring hit on something very vital using Cruise missiles, we made it look like a walk in the park, that too withoug any collateral damage- Bharath was making so many big powers adapt to new realities vis a vis their own nuclear deterrence.
Bharath made the whole world redo their math yesterday.

This was the trigger for ceasefire.

I understand no nuclear power will allow Bharath to call the nuclear bluff of pakistan. We would need to work the LONG ROPE way on pakistan and hang it in front of the world to see.
I am hopeful, pakis wiill give Bharath quite a number of chance for it in the near future and everytime, pakis will go through new kind of pains.
 
It's probably the first time in history that a nuclear-armed nation raided another nuclear-armed country blew up terror camps in broad daylight, hit multiple airbases, even went as far as striking nuclear storage facilities. And yet, some people still claim the government failed ? I guess that 80 IQ is really starting to seep through.

what do you think was the end game .?
We understand the end game sir , end was death of terror camps .
We get it , we are not saying anything about military.
Don't ever think that.
Our military is our diamond 💎
Most precious than all .
It's the political class we are angry at , that why this abrupt ceasefire, why not press an advantage that's it .
As for vote , any sane man will give modi his vote as others are literally even worse.
 
Kindly, don't shoot the messenger. This factor cannot be denied.

This is an absolute non-factor.
India has always been a democratic parliamentary form of government that employs a bureaucratic arm for administrative and foreign relations purposes.
Implying that any single person in the government, holding ANY office (much less a bureaucratic one) has the power to unilaterally change the course of action THIS drastically in ANY matter of national importance under ANY personal circumstance, abduction of family included, implies that we are in essence as "dysfunctional" as the Paksitani Government, something your "messenger" mentioned in a previous post of his.
Let's clarify this: India is a vibrant, functional democracy. Do not mistake India for Pakistan.
 
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Met few Sikhs , an old one also.
Man served in 71 and has seen 62 , 65 wars .
The guy was so much angry at modi .
And so were the young guys, it's as if all of Jammu and Punjab are angry at the priest king .
I couldn't hide my anger myself.
Entire country is angry. Vishwaguru is only intrested in winning elections. Nothing else. In few days he will be back to election campaign mode.

Jaishankar needs to be removed. He is most overrated minister. His achivements are zero. Only reason he has his job because Gora Sahib likes him.

Bhajipao IT cell is angry at Indira comparisons but reality is that lady fiished the job against impossible odds.

Now Doland Bhai will ask to mediate in Kashmir too. We will go back to same 2 same era with Pakistan after this.

Tiny israel who is dependent on USA for everything isn't listening to them. But Vishwaguru is only one phone call away from stopping the war.

Why are we buying Rafale? Why evan bother with any defence spending? They will rust away with no use. When enemy attcks just run to Gora Sahib and ask for ceasefire.

Meanwhile pakistan now knows their Air defence weakness. They will procure some good air defence system before attacking India once again. Then same rona dhona will begin.

Yesterday I leaned that Modi is no different from Nehru who stopped Kashmir war when we were on the verge of total victory.

What a shame.

Why we still have this thread open. Everything is over.
 
They have already started flooding the SM with praises for their "Supreme Leader". How foolish these people think the RW ecosystem is? I think that they are still trusting the TINA factor.

I am really hoping hoping a few electoral setbacks to bring some sense back to the top leadership, even better a change in the top leadership. Jaishankar's gang must be purged out of the sensitive positions. Honor of the Ministry of Defense must be restored.



Kindly, don't shoot the messenger. This factor cannot be denied.
Understand that war has stopped but he definitely deserves the up most praise.
He has shown balls to penetrate the airspace of their heartlands after 5 decades, bombed the shit out of their military assets, nuclear sites & hideouts, purged their Air defence, AWACS, we blocked their water. He has totally changed India's war doctrine. Now nuclear bluff has lost it's weight. Pakistan will think 10 times before orchestrating any terror event in the future. He was the one who abrogated article 370 as well. Major objectives have been achieved. Yes, the war would've been better but if govt has stopped them there must be a damm good reason.
 
Bhai ji ek baat ka jawab dedijiye .
Apko kis baat ka gussa hai asal me ?
Haa sang thoda frustrated hai , lekin apko kyu gussa hai .
Ap is engagement ka outcome se satisfied hai ?
Hain aap ?
Yadi haa , fir to okay .
But I think you too are not satisfied with this result.
Bhai in any war , jab tak territorial changes nai hote na , however minute .
Its outcome can always be contested.
Pakis very successfully hide 65 defeats of their, are they able to hide 71 defeat ? Or Siachen defeat ?
Nai na , yes it will be in long run a testament to India's response, regardless of propaganda but it won't hurt them permanently like loss of territory would have .

No, I'm not satisfied. Aap mere posts dekh lijiye, I have not once advocated or tried to justify a ceasefire. I want India to continue its retaliation with custom equivalence and force Pakistan to climb the escalation ladder. Frustrated mein bhi hu bhai, lekin frustration nikalne ka tareeka hota hai. Ye kya tareeka hua ki desh ke External Affairs minister ko gaali de raha hai, unke baccho ka photo daal ke gaali de raha hai. Yaar, there shouldn't be a place for such low-life retarded propagandists on this forum. Apna apna analysis do, positive ho ya negative. Effective discourse is possible only between gentlemen.
 
please share your thoughts

- Did Operation Sindoor(not just the first day strike but as a whole) met it's goal or did it fall short or did they overachieved ? If not, what do you think the minimum goal was (& what you would've like it to be) ?

- How did GOI did in information/media space ? Did they do a good job and if not WHAT CAN WE DO NOW (not in future but now)

- What did we learn from Operation Sindoor ? Tactically, strategically, technology and diplomatically

- what should be the immediate measures now
 
Can anyone tell me how many nuclear weapons Pakistan stored in the Kirana Hills tunnels? those tunnels were completely destroyed, so they may have lost a significant number—and other nuclear bases might also have been hit.
 
What's the part you didn't get? The pressure to deescalate was from US, you want us to use our nuke card to ignore the pressure and Trump would have taken that lightly? Did you see what Trump tweeted? He is going to start trade and presumably arms sales and military aid to Pakistan just because they went to him with a begging bowl, massively stroking his ego. If India ignored there's no guarantee that this man child wouldn't have a public outburst about us, threatening with sanctions.

Also please look up Russia and see their massive resources and huge military industrial base before trying to equate their situation with us. They also have an equal behemoth China by their side. We have none. US sanctions mean your Tejas program is done, Israeli coperation can be over if Trump says so, Russia won't be able to match your military hardware demands and France will extract your kidney and liver to each platform they sell to you. Geopolitics don't run by jingoism but pragmatism. We have done much much more than we ever imagined a few weeks ago. Don't expect everything to happen at one go. Pakis will provide you plenty of opportunities in the future so each time we have to increase the cost to them.

So somebody started shivering after a mere posturing from the US and the others?
Why did such pragmatism not set in on the day zero?
Who must be held accountable for such blunder?

This was a pointless conflict with no clearly defined "objectives"?

Can we safely conclude that the national resources got expended to safeguard the reputation of the "Supreme Pow Pow"? Was it a distraction to hide the complete failure in preventing the terrorist attack and catching the culprits?

I suspect that not one but two distractions were used, first the "Caste Census" and then the "Controlled Conflict". Two separate electoral groups were placated.
 
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