Operation Sindoor

[liberalredditor]

India never had any plan for full scale war . They wanted to give a response to Pahalgam attack . The attack was decided at highest level in Pak army .
Whatever happened it was a response to escalation by pakistan ..
Pakistan army wanted a dignified exit . They did nt get any . Rather big setbacks .
They wanted to make Modi's leadership questionable which is evident by words of terrorist when they killed men before their wives and children and said - tell this to modi .. At the end of the day they got humiliated before their country man . Modi's approach was simple - goli vs gola .

I think paki general thinking behind pahalgam was -

1. Let's do something , now new govt has been formed in j&k . Lets keep the pot boiling .
2. Baniya's performance in election was nt impressive . Does nt hold so much power . Does nt have guts like before .
3. No election in foresight . Baniya won't do anything .

you really think india never had a plan of war??? we have to plan for every scenario especially when the neighbour is a military dicktraitorship

 

[Aaj Ka Hero]

View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1921477874231513460

For all the bh*sdapillers,

Game is still on, bitches!

You are in USA, right? can you tell us there regional news regarding things happening there.
You can create thread here, so important to know what happening there, from a human perspective, there media is all gloss.

 

[JConline]

You are in USA, right? can you tell us there regional news regarding things happening there.
You can create thread here, so important to know what happening there, from a human perspective, there media is all gloss.

Yep, certainly can try to contribute to such a thread as much as time permits me. Can someone with more user experience on this forum set up the thread?

 

[Doreamon]

you really think india never had a plan of war??? we have to plan for every scenario especially when the neighbour is a military dicktraitorship

We had but as a gradual escalation. Not proactive declaration of war. It was like if it comes to that so be it .. we ll go for it ..

 

[Kapil]

Me too, bro. I was rooting for Lando, but Lando still has to mature as a driver. Piastri is GOAT material. Hope he goes the distance.

I feel bad for Max, too. It was fun until last year to watch Red Bull and McLaren battle it out. But irrespective of whether you support him or not, he is just such an undeniably GOATed driver behind the wheel. He does deserve a better car. But then again, McLaren leading the constructors and 1-2 in the Drivers' championships, so I ain't complainin'.

Really?
F1?
Here?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

All members avoid off topic discussion derailing thread

 

[Chakuntilal]

Just to set the record straight -

1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Opera

2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Outside_the_Box

3. https://www.ans.org/news/article-65...ve-nuclear-weapons-research-facility-in-iran/

The US has a documented policy of 'dissuading' countries from going nooklear. See attached research on that.

You are talking about nuclear weapons research facilities - you are right. However, what about strategic airbases or naval bases? I doubt there have been attacks on IRGC facilities and bases by the Israelis and the Americans.

 

[ashes]

Guyzz
Things might be not be done just yet
As you see at the end. It is clearly written He asked for time. Which might indicate some type of temporary ceasefire
2.

 

[Gandaberunda]

Kahan Kahan mare hai hum
IAF was salon tumhare har jagah pe ek ek Nishan chodenge

 

[shitsandgiggles]

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[abhijat]

Is it only me or someone else too feel psychologically violated after this episode. It feels like a well played & directed script, which can give any sas bahu serial kadi takkar.
How come at the end of battle everyone was able to gain something? paki being paki (let's forget about them for a second),
India - IT Cell - Modiji Shahanshah!! & lot's of meme materials for next 5 years ,
DRDO & Army : chalo aab forum wale kam se kam 6 mahine tak gali no nahe denge,(but seriously they are the real winner.SALUTE)
IT Coolie: hurray!! IPL is back, and,

Ofcourse Trump babu got his ego stoked up.

The only losers were we people(bagal wale bhe).

Chalo iss week ka entertainment pura hua next episode ke taraf aab badhate hai.

Hey ishwar hum kuch nahe karte hai , wo tu he karwata hai. Prabhu inn papi Bhakto ko maaf kare , hum Dharm aur Karm bhul chuke hai. Yahe Kalyuga hai.

Always remember the night of 10th, keep quiet, be silent, learn, observe, and teach your children, make them skilfully in one strategic art, cultivate independent decision making capability in them so that they can independently do service for the nation , been in here or outside, devoid of any political or babudom help.

Just last line of thought - Try to find out the quantum of inter-marriages between babudom and political class.

Om Shanti

 

[Srinivas]

If a terror establishment from Pakistan has freedom to kill at their place of choice and time, Indian has every right to go after Pakistani defence establishment, their assets, their terror literature and infrastructure.


The meaning of Modi’s words is from now on India will be proactive and will make sure Pakistan pays back and suffers for its actions.

Pakistan’s nukes bluff has been called by India, India hit Pakistan’s nuke storage facility. When Pakistan threatened with nukes.

This is not the first strike on Pakistan’s nuke facility, A missile strike was done during Balakot strikes after math during Abhinandan’s release negotiations .

Hitting airbases is what Bajwa feared. ‘Tange kamp rahi the’ Munir went forward and got the response loosing his air assets.

 

[Gandaberunda]

Guys in yesterday presser they said hit skardu Air base and none has spoken about it. What did we hit in skardu? There were reports of newly operated Saidu Shariff as well. Any sat images ?

 

[Aditya10r]

So, having seen 3 escalations with Pakistan, and with each attack, our response is getting more and more devastating. Think I shall summarise it this way.

1. The cost of terror operations by the terrorist state has been increased to the point that the next one might end up with Pakistani cities being burnt to a crisp, and they will be carpet bombed in daylight for the world to see. We might even sink their Navy and bomb their fuel and ammo reserves to cripple their war waging capacity.
2. The Pakistani state apparatus will have to recalibrate its retaliation to a future indian response because their Air force is not capable of blunting ours.
3. Pakistani Air Defense does not stand a chance against the IAF, for now.
4. The Pakistani Air Force has been mauled to an extent, getting 11 air bases bombed right after claiming they can shoot down hypersonic missiles is going to hurt.
5. Their nuclear bluff has been called fair and square, we bombed all the airbases from where they could launch their nuclear attack, bombed their HQ, bombed their nuclear storage sites and would have gone ahead with a decapitation strike had they actually moved their nuclear weapons in an offensive posture.
6. Air strikes, Missile Strikes, Drone Strikes, and SF raids are the new normal for India-Pakistan relations.

Now, that is the basic overview. Where do we go from here now?

1. Last night I was pissed that we had agreed for a ceasefire but after a good night sleep I can see things better. No matter how the pakis spin it, their nation was bombed strafed and fucked like a sasti randi at a chowraha by the IAF. That does not mean next time will be the same; they will fast-track their acquisition of KAAN and the J-31/35. Expect a squadron or two to be inducted into the PAF by 2030. We won't have an answer to that at least until 2034-35. So our air defences need to get a helluva lot better than what they are today.
2. There is no substitute for the domestic arms industry, it costs in blood and treasure, so be it. Our Defence budget is not enough to cater to a 2.5 front war. It needs to go all the way to 3% of the GDP, that is affordable without any excess borrowing or taxes, and IAF should look towards acquiring more Su-30Mki(Upgraded ones) and Mk2 MWF in the short to medium term, Explore our options with the Europeans in their sixth generation programs, expedite AMCA and inflate the sanctioned squadron numbers from 42 to 60-65. A full-blown war between 2 industrial economies, India and China, will have a lot of attrition. Numbers will be very, very important. Also, we need a lot more AWACS, ELINT aircraft, mid-air refuelling aircraft, and Airborne jamming aircraft.
3. Our Air defenses need to become much more dense, gotta expedite the development of Project Kusha and VSHORADs, QR-SAM, and HPW, along with Directed energy weapons and lasers, drone warfare is here in the subcontinent.
4. The Army needs to mechanize a lot more, plus it is not well-prepared enough to tackle the drone threat. Bhagwaastra and other CUAS systems need to proliferate at the battalion level to make a lot of difference in warfighting. The Army needs to get out of counterinsurgency and focus more on peer-to-peer conflict. Add more helicopters and attack helicopters, and drones into the mix to target deep inside enemy territory. Also, boatloads of self-propelled artillery are needed, because fixed artillery can be made into a hunk of metal by a drone on short notice. We have a few platforms available to us, gotta order that in thousands. Also, the puny order of 100 or so TATA WHAPs needs to look like 1000s.
5. The Navy needs to triple in size, before anyone jumps and says that such a navy would be an overkill, then just look at the traffic through the Malacca Strait, China's bases in Djibouti, and our growing maritime interests. Also, we should have the capability to deploy a division worth of soldiers at Gwadar to stretch Pakistani ground forces, thinned out. A 3rd carrier, the MRSV tender, Project 18, 17B, and Next Gen Corvette, needs to pick up some speed. Also, our submarine arm needs to expand beyond just the waters of the BoB and the Arabian Sea. To monitor the Chinese, we need nuclear attack subs that can snoop the waters of Hainan and the SCS.
6. Make no mistake, this attack and the paki retaliation has China written all over it. The voices coming from Beijing indicate that they were looking to open up a second front, and that would have been a disaster for us. We need to focus on our economy, block Chinese encroachment in our markets and economy, and grow consistently at 7% minimum for the next 2 decades to have a seat at the high table and have the industrial capacity to wage a long, drawn-out war. As much as we would like a war to be short and sharp, long, drawn-out wars are more likely than shorter, sharper ones.
7. Lastly, we need to make our economy and trade sanctions-proof. Today we halted the ops for whatever reason, tomorrow we might be compelled to go ahead with one. Thus, a sanction-proof economy and trade mechanism is needed. Our diplomatic arm needs to be prepared to defend our position at the Hague or the UN should the need arise, and not throw our military operations under the bus.

Although I am still salty about not bombing the Pakis to 7th century but in larger scheme of things, the ceasefire serves our purpose. We have demonstrated and re-established the superiority of the air force. After the Op swift retard and our lack of response had created a different picture, but that has changed in the last 4-5 days. I had a boner that lasted for as long as we bombed them. I wish to have that feeling again. And no matter how pakis spin it, we bombed, strafed, shelled, struck, maimed and humiliated them in their capital and major cities. No amount of spinning and victory speeches can change that fact. We might have missed a golden opportunity but I have faith in Pakis and their collective IQ of 3 that they will do something funny, they just want to be buried 6ft under.

 

[ezsasa]

How come at the end of battle everyone was able to gain something?

this usually means, boys played well.
hallmark of a good negotiation, is when all parties involved feel they got something out it.

 

[Magadha Naresh]

Pakistani jets may have been spotted over Kutch few minutes ago and SAMs have been sent to engage them.

Personal source..

This is an era of peace , era of expansionism is long dead .
Now as we enter a multi polar world , connected by nations which follow the panchsheel principles in dealing with each other . We reiterate that
We are not a nation of yuddh ( war ), but buddh ( boodism/ Buddhism )
No yuddh has ever taken place here , just skirmishes. We literally removed british from india by the help of a charkha( the spinning wheel), gandhi ji led the battle of non violence against them , finally hurting their conscience so much that they de escalated from india . ( NOT)

On a realistic note , if true apke muh me thumbs-up ,( more sweet than ghee shakkr )

 

[Nicky]

So the government has not acknowledged the last night and early morning attacks and no minister has come out to provide rationale for actions.

They have just forced the media to focus on the achievements thus far.

I don't believe Modi ever wanted an escalation. He only responded when Porkies were getting out of hand when they got the threshing include apparently on their nuclear assets.

The plane circling in their air space to detect nuclear radiation seems to indicate. I don't know if we wanted to hit nuclear assets or just show them we could and we struck deeper than expected.

They went running to Unkil, which is what we expected and we were all to eager to accept the ceasefire.

Porkies did some mischief but we ignore it since they didn't do much damage and we don't want to escalate.

So everyone goes back to their corner happy. Apart from Indian nationalists who are left to wonder what happened without any information forthcoming from the government.

 

[Hari Sud]

View: https://x.com/strrrange_dr5/status/1921540027370103066?s=19
Posts like these are extremely stupid,and rn are in good numbers
This is actually a propaganda to pak

Mark Robio although US Secretary of State and trusted President Trump's advisor neither has personality nor way with words as a top diplomat to impress upon the Jehadi General Munir in Pakistan. Finally it was JD Vance, fresh after visit to India impressed upon President Trump to act in haste as Pakistan has given order to assemble nuclear bombs. Remember these components are kept at different location and brought to Sargodha for final assembly and mating with missile/planes.

Now president Trump acted. He told Robio to deliver a stern message to Pakistan or else.

The else above my guess is that American B-52 will take off to cripple Pakistan's nuclear sites. General Munir had no other choice but to listen.

 

[Ajatshatru]

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[BihariLala]

Rajasthan | All the citizens of Jaisalmer are requested that as a precautionary measure, blackout is declared from 7:30 PM today to 6 AM tomorrow. Everyone should keep the lights in their homes and surroundings switched off: District Administration, Jaisalmer

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Why? We're not under earthquake or something that requires precautionary measures