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well we can alyaws support groups like BLA or TTP which can break their country from inside but in a conventional way its not possible atleast till they have their nukes
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well we can alyaws support groups like BLA or TTP which can break their country from inside but in a conventional way its not possible atleast till they have their nukes
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Bhai waisi laure jaisi presentation agar office lekar jaun na toh boss meri gaand ka bhosda bana dega, but jaahil quam unki aisi bharwi hai, Unke saamne unki maa behen betiyan bhi chod doge toh bolenge humne tumhe nanga dekh liya.
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Targeting Pakistan’s nuclear weapons would lead to the country’s destruction due to the release of deadly radiation. India could effectively neutralize Pakistan without even deploying its own nuclear arsenal, as demonstrated in this conflict.
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The best answer to that question is below... you can never end virus/bacteria/insects etc.
Already things going on and will be more difficult than Bangladesh independence.
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Yeah, but who's he? Do we have his name & rank & the circumstances in which he went to janna'h?
Besides the cunning bustards that the entire ISI / Fauji Foundation are, they've covered his eyes on purpose so he can't be identified thus giving them plausible deniability.
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Destroying all of Pakistan’s nuclear bases would severely harm the country for generations. While it may not be as devastating as a direct nuclear strike, the consequences would still be extremely deadly. Pakistan is effectively sitting on a nuclear bomb—one that India can target.
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But they are masters in being liars.
Had i not been living in Delhi and known about INS Vikrant..
I would have believed that their drone came to Delhi and took some chole bhature and went to INS Vikrant where PN Motu would eat it sitting on top of a Mig 29K some 400 nms south of Karachi and 800 nms west of Patna port.
Continuing on my post here now that most of us here including me have calmed down what exactly is the govts strategy vis a vis Pakistan.
The ceasefire or understanding as it has been termed is beyond any doubt extremely lopsided towards pakistan.
My take on why.
1.India receives no guarantees that Pakistan will dismantle terror infrastructure or completely end terror funding against India.
2. No wanted terrorists residing in pakistan were handed off to India
3. We have received no information on who and where the terrorist who killed our people in pagalgam are which i believe was the least we could ask for.
From all the information we have on the net we were following the escalation ladder pakistan calls the nuclear bluff and we back of unconditionally without any ask whatsoever.
The govt claims that our new policy is that any new terror attack will be an act of war but the question is just like this time what is the guarantee that we wont stop again when pakistan pulls up the nuclear card because the first strike we do on any Pakistani nuclear asset rest assured America and china are jumping in and beyond the ramblings in this forum nobody in delhi is ready take nuclear hits if it results in the destruction of pakistan.
It appears that post our extreme success militarily we have failed once again on the table politically.
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Bharat Karnad and Ex-IN take on Rafale failure in Op Sindoor
Reason is : SAAB Erieye ( therefore, IAF hit hard on it at Bholari and may be one via S400 )
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Reason is : SAAB Erieye ( therefore, IAF hit hard on it at Bholari and may be one via S400 )
Rafale failed in Sindoor! Rethink this French option for MFA
[A grounded Tejas vs a flying Rafale!] The usual, unsatisfactory, inconclusive end to Sindoor. And that too inside of three days of start of military operations! What is equally surprising is how q…
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Watch the PGurus video someone has shared above. Watch it. I am no expert (perhaps, other members can chime in) but if true, we have done more than enough.
Trust me, just watch it.
Memberans, I know nobody likes watching long videos but consider watching this one, you will not regret it.
EDIT: Providing the URL (again);
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eMp0tZUJU10&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD
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Re-posting the video. Has all the answers we need for most of the questions we have here.
It seems there's a nuclear fallout after we hit their nuclear sites. Which spooked the US and in turn perhaps India as well because the fallout needs to be contained.
Also, we have made them nuke-nude and the threat can be de-fanged anytime. At what threshold we go for that is the question. I was also blackpilling but overall seems to be going in positive direction.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMp0tZUJU10
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Bhai me toh delhi me rahta hu . Kal raat me drone aaya tha, maine dekha. Fir uspar maine mut diya. Aur jaha tak baat patna ki hai toh bhai ha, udhar drone pahucha tha but hum bihariyon ne use chori karke use parts kholkar bhangar me bech diye kankarbagh me.
Pata nahi loda konsa ganja cocaine phunk kar aata hai.
We are not dealing with a rational state but a nation full of junkies. BC ek dimaag waala pakistani apni 25 saal ki zindagi me na dekha hai na suna hai.
Honestly living in Delhi, I expected at least one or two drone interceptions, nothing ever reached here. I used to stream web series in night and enjoy pakistan getting pounded while their citizens were in chaos etc.
My respect for border states especially areas in Punjab and J&K. You guys were the major targets of phuddistan, Each attempt to trespass our red lines have been paid back. They are still doing damage analysis while our bases are back in action.
My respect for border states especially areas in Punjab and J&K. You guys were the major targets of phuddistan, Each attempt to trespass our red lines have been paid back. They are still doing damage analysis while our bases are back in action.
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I am a noob but i dont understand why we didnt take enemy counter attack seriously when going in to bomb their terrorist camps specially after warning them multiple times that we are coming.Bharat Karnad and Ex-IN take on Rafale failure in Op Sindoor
Reason is : SAAB Erieye ( therefore, IAF hit hard on it at Bholari and may be one via S400 )
Rafale failed in Sindoor! Rethink this French option for MFA
[A grounded Tejas vs a flying Rafale!] The usual, unsatisfactory, inconclusive end to Sindoor. And that too inside of three days of start of military operations! What is equally surprising is how q…
Highly underestimated the enemy.
Anyway,made a comeback and i hope lessons are learnt.
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In 2019, Pakistan had captured an Indian pilot, while India only presented satellite images showing damage to buildings. This time, however, there are real casualties and significant damage in Pakistan, with hundreds of photos and videos captured by Pakistanis themselves. India now holds a clear advantage in the narrative war, people of Pakistan are calling their army dishonest and demanding proof.
Guys i got some really stupid whatsapp message with link from UK TELEGRAPH. I am not well versed with Military stuff. Can anyone confirm or debunk what this below bullshit message is.
"
“How China helped Pakistan shoot down Indian fighter jets”
www.telegraph.co.uk
At 4:00 a.m., something extraordinary happened—not on the battlefield, but in the diplomatic shadows. China’s ambassador to Pakistan reportedly made an urgent call to Rawalpindi.
Within hours, a long-prepared contingency went live. What followed wasn’t just an air skirmish—it was a revelation that shattered the myth of India’s air dominance.
The Indian Air Force had been assembling for days—nearly 180 aircraft concentrated on the western front. The goal was clear: repeat Balakot, break Pakistani defenses, and restore the image of strategic supremacy.
But the skies were no longer the same.
Why They Stayed 300 km Away
The Indian Air Force never crossed the threshold. They knew what waited for them beyond it:
Chinese J-10C fighters, sleek and silent
PL-15 missiles, Mach 5 hunters with over 300 km range
Erieye radars, linking every shooter into a single deadly nervous system
What India saw was not just Pakistani pilots—it was China’s entire air warfare doctrine stretching from Skardu to Pasni.
And the Rafales? They never saw it coming.
One Rafale—valued at over $250 million—was reportedly shot down mid-air. Another barely made it back. The Spectra EW system, designed to protect it, was overwhelmed. The PL-15 didn’t come with radar—it came with AI-guided silence.
This wasn’t a dogfight. It was an ambush.
The Pakistani Air Force, aided by Chinese targeting satellites and AWACS, executed a sensor-fusion kill. The Rafales never got a lock, never even saw their adversary. When the missiles hit, it was already over.
And India knew: if one Rafale can fall, so can five.
That’s why the fleet was grounded.
That’s why they stay 300 km away from the border.
Not because they lack courage—but because they now lack certainty.
Strategic Embarrassment
The implications are enormous. India’s prestige weapon, the Rafale, fell to a Chinese missile fired by a Pakistani jet. That’s not just a tactical failure—it’s a geopolitical message.
Even Bloomberg wrote it: this is a live demonstration of Chinese-Pakistani integrated warfare.
Western analysts are stunned. French defense contracts are rattled.
China, meanwhile, is watching quietly… and smiling.
The Game Has Changed
This isn’t 2019. This isn’t Balakot.
India now knows that any venture into Pakistani airspace invites a death trap orchestrated by J-10Cs, PL-15s, and Pakistani resolve.
So they stay back.
Grounded by fear.
Blinded by radar.
And humiliated by silence.
“The Indian pilot didn’t fail from lack of skill.
He failed inside a battlefield he couldn’t see— built by satellites, linked by sensors, and executed by machines.”
In May 2025, the game changed. India’s long-nurtured dream of aerial supremacy—anchored in the purchase of 36 Rafale jets, backed by the mythical Spectra EW suite and decades of French engineering—came crashing down over Kashmir.
It wasn’t a dogfight.
It wasn’t even a fair fight.
It was a doctrinal collapse, witnessed in real time by every military strategist across the globe.
The #Rafale was supposed to be untouchable. Its technology, unmatched. Its pilots, elite. But on that fateful day, it flew into a kill box it never saw. And never escaped.
The Lethal Kill Chain
China quietly stepped in—not in the way most Western analysts imagined.
There were no J-20s or war declarations.
There was a box. A network. A silent chain of observation and execution:
Saab Erieye AWACS patrolling silently
J-10C fighters flying in passive mode
PL-15E missiles—the export PL-15E, the domestic variant with over 300 km reach and Mach 5 speed—locked in and fired…
The Rafale didn’t even know it was targeted until the missile was 50 km away.
At that speed, the Indian pilot had 9 seconds.
Not enough to react.
Not enough to survive.
"
"
“How China helped Pakistan shoot down Indian fighter jets”
How China helped Pakistan shoot down Indian fighter jets
The apparent involvement of Chinese aircraft in shooting down a Western-made Rafale has ricocheted through defence circles
www.telegraph.co.uk
At 4:00 a.m., something extraordinary happened—not on the battlefield, but in the diplomatic shadows. China’s ambassador to Pakistan reportedly made an urgent call to Rawalpindi.
Within hours, a long-prepared contingency went live. What followed wasn’t just an air skirmish—it was a revelation that shattered the myth of India’s air dominance.
The Indian Air Force had been assembling for days—nearly 180 aircraft concentrated on the western front. The goal was clear: repeat Balakot, break Pakistani defenses, and restore the image of strategic supremacy.
But the skies were no longer the same.
Why They Stayed 300 km Away
The Indian Air Force never crossed the threshold. They knew what waited for them beyond it:
Chinese J-10C fighters, sleek and silent
PL-15 missiles, Mach 5 hunters with over 300 km range
Erieye radars, linking every shooter into a single deadly nervous system
What India saw was not just Pakistani pilots—it was China’s entire air warfare doctrine stretching from Skardu to Pasni.
And the Rafales? They never saw it coming.
One Rafale—valued at over $250 million—was reportedly shot down mid-air. Another barely made it back. The Spectra EW system, designed to protect it, was overwhelmed. The PL-15 didn’t come with radar—it came with AI-guided silence.
This wasn’t a dogfight. It was an ambush.
The Pakistani Air Force, aided by Chinese targeting satellites and AWACS, executed a sensor-fusion kill. The Rafales never got a lock, never even saw their adversary. When the missiles hit, it was already over.
And India knew: if one Rafale can fall, so can five.
That’s why the fleet was grounded.
That’s why they stay 300 km away from the border.
Not because they lack courage—but because they now lack certainty.
Strategic Embarrassment
The implications are enormous. India’s prestige weapon, the Rafale, fell to a Chinese missile fired by a Pakistani jet. That’s not just a tactical failure—it’s a geopolitical message.
Even Bloomberg wrote it: this is a live demonstration of Chinese-Pakistani integrated warfare.
Western analysts are stunned. French defense contracts are rattled.
China, meanwhile, is watching quietly… and smiling.
The Game Has Changed
This isn’t 2019. This isn’t Balakot.
India now knows that any venture into Pakistani airspace invites a death trap orchestrated by J-10Cs, PL-15s, and Pakistani resolve.
So they stay back.
Grounded by fear.
Blinded by radar.
And humiliated by silence.
“The Indian pilot didn’t fail from lack of skill.
He failed inside a battlefield he couldn’t see— built by satellites, linked by sensors, and executed by machines.”
In May 2025, the game changed. India’s long-nurtured dream of aerial supremacy—anchored in the purchase of 36 Rafale jets, backed by the mythical Spectra EW suite and decades of French engineering—came crashing down over Kashmir.
It wasn’t a dogfight.
It wasn’t even a fair fight.
It was a doctrinal collapse, witnessed in real time by every military strategist across the globe.
The #Rafale was supposed to be untouchable. Its technology, unmatched. Its pilots, elite. But on that fateful day, it flew into a kill box it never saw. And never escaped.
The Lethal Kill Chain
China quietly stepped in—not in the way most Western analysts imagined.
There were no J-20s or war declarations.
There was a box. A network. A silent chain of observation and execution:
Saab Erieye AWACS patrolling silently
J-10C fighters flying in passive mode
PL-15E missiles—the export PL-15E, the domestic variant with over 300 km reach and Mach 5 speed—locked in and fired…
The Rafale didn’t even know it was targeted until the missile was 50 km away.
At that speed, the Indian pilot had 9 seconds.
Not enough to react.
Not enough to survive.
"
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