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I'll concede then. I didn't see this video like a retard.
They know better. Well then. Imports will let us know what Pukies are doing about that. Many people were speculating that the Egyptian plane was bringing them Boron.
That's a good measure of what's happening although Egypt's boron thing isn't confirmed.
According to Major General Rajiv Narayanan, we hit a number of Pakistanese nuclear facilities. I was under the impression, we only hit two -- Kirana and Kahuta. We continued hitting their nuclear facilities until 4am. We ignored their operation Buniyan e Mahsoosh :)
 
BTW, some gora mediawallahs are claiming that Uncle Sam has agreed to some 'major economic concessions' to us in exchange of the ceasefire deal. Like I said, the coming days will reveal a lot of interesting details - gormint is hiding a lot, for now.
US gormint is run by private companies not the other way round. Whatever they promised was a lollipop and our government sadly bought it
 
There wa s a cave in from the missile strike at the mountain to think they could move anything with it sealed would be delusional????
That is my point exactly. This is the official US govt statement.


View: https://x.com/sootradhar/status/1921600319764459579?s=46

If our missile strikes actually destroyed the facility underground the pakistani PM would have no leverage against the Americans which directly contradicts what the above set of events say with shebaz threatening America with the loss of military control over nuclear assets. You cannot make that threat if your entire arsenal is buried.

I will make a follow up post later that catalogues what might have happened exactly based on the information we have.
 

ISRO’s RISAT-1B Set to Boost India’s Border Surveillance from May 18​

 
What counter we have for J10 + PL15E combo, or else these fuckers will keep spamming the shit out of PL15 in every aerial combat
It's the same range as the meteor which the IAF has . The only reason they managed to get a hit in the first night was because the IAF was asked to not to do SEAD. ( I hope never again the IAF is asked to such a hit , this is the second time they have been told to do this )

The 3rd night and the next day when IAF hit airbases and hangars without any losses exposed the PAF.
 
That is my point exactly. This is the official US govt statement.


View: https://x.com/sootradhar/status/1921600319764459579?s=46

If our missile strikes actually destroyed the facility underground the pakistani PM would have no leverage against the Americans which directly contradicts what the above set of events say with shebaz threatening America with the loss of military control over nuclear assets. You cannot make that threat if your entire arsenal is buried.

I will make a follow up post later that catalogues what might have happened exactly based on the information we have.


Quoted post is NOT the official US govt statement and sounds a bit too jingoistic. To be perfectly honest tho, even the PGurus video sounded like that. But Jaidev Jamwal (probably the first guy to discover our strikes on nuke storages) is hinting at direct strikes too so let us see;


View: https://twitter.com/JaidevJamwal/status/1921355060522500414
 
Let us see, these things cannot stay hidden. We will know for sure in the coming days.

DoE assets flying over pakiland to pick up on radiation. Egyptian jets bringing boron. Well known deep state chutiyas like Grossmann doing rr over the supposed nuclear leak. Multiple earthquakes suspiciously close to the nuke storage sites.

Too many loose ends. Cannot be a coincidence, can it?

Also, apparently, a number of paki government and media handles have deleted the social media posts they made on those earthquakes. Can anybody confirm?
I think i have cracked the theory on what exactly happened and how it aligns with my original question.

Ofcourse it is at the end of the day a educated guess from my end but it does match a lot of things we know about from all the information we have.
 
BTW, some gora mediawallahs are claiming that Uncle Sam has agreed to some 'major economic concessions' to us in exchange of the ceasefire deal. Like I said, the coming days will reveal a lot of interesting details - gormint is hiding a lot, for now.
US President Donald Trump himself has refuted this claim. He has clearly stated that no discussion about money or trade took place during the ceasefire negotiations. Later, he decided to "reward" India and Pakistan both with some trade incentives. I do not know what those trade incentives are.

By the way, fighting is still going on.
 
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Quoted post is NOT the official US govt statement and sounds a bit too jingoistic. To be perfectly honest tho, even the PGurus video sounded like that. But Jaidev Jamwal (probably the first guy to discover our strikes on nuke storages) is hinting at direct strikes too so let us see;


View: https://twitter.com/JaidevJamwal/status/1921355060522500414

Is the article fake and in that case do we have any official or reputable information on why the US intervened.
 
@crazywithmath @niks_12 just finished watching the video and it was extremely informative. While it does answer some of my questions there is something that i just cannot understand.

By the generals own admission we have pretty much buried most of the pakistani nuclear warheads under the hills and its close to impossible to retrieve them now which begs the question why is the ceasefire so lopsided.

One one hand we have information that pakistan called up the Americans and explained that we would not be able to defend our nuclear assets due to current hostilities in with India and thus Americans intervened and hence the ceasefire.

That makes no sense if you have no assets to protect.

On the other hand we have video proof that we did strike their nuclear base.

It seems to me that the generals claim was extremely exaggerated in the sense that if we actually took out about 95% of their warheads we would simply not stop and the American would have nothing to be blackmailed with it.


View: https://x.com/kesaridhwaj/status/1921442191940997164?s=46

I find this analysis more in line with what happened and that brings me back to the question on how are we supposed to deal with pakistan on a permanent basis.

Okay my views on this. @Knowitall

1) We took out a majority of their nukes but not all. So they do retain the power to strike, albeit very small. What the good general was pointing out that we retain the power to destroy the remaining nukes as well, perhaps even before launch.

2) What might have happened is - the Porks called US and cried, raising the bogey of nuclear fallout at their side and that it is out of their control. I doubt they have the capability to even do a proper assessment. Their assets are green painted Chinese ones.

Also, they might have warned that it's dangerously close to the point where they will go on all out attack with whatever they have got, since they have no other option left with AD and command centers taken out. Hence, you saw the Porks calling a meeting of their nuclear command.

US being spooked agreed.

3) US opened a channel between India and the Porks and their DGMO specifically requested for a ceasefire or cease of hostilities.

Now, being a responsible nation, we agreed since a fallout is a dangerous event. US might have thrown sweeteners such as they will do an independent survey and perhaps take control of the nuclear assets. Hence, you saw their technical aircraft.

4) Kudos to our forces pre-empting the nuke threat as per their strategy and SoP. They might have war gamed pre-emption infinite times and when ballistic missiles were fired, put it into action.

I think we were also not prepared for what came next as a fallout and knew exactly what to do here. For example, one of the targets was in Baluchistan. Of course we are close to the Baluchis. No one knows how much the site is leaking radioactivity. So better to stop for an assessment.

5) It also gives us a breather. He did mention that many foreign industrialists are visiting India and so important stuff going on in the background. However, that's why the new declaration that it's not a ceasefire but a pause of hostilities. Any action from their side or terrorist attack and punitive attacks would come.

Now, how the Porkies use this time remains to be seen. I have no doubt that we would also be watching them closely.

6) Finally, we agreed because we achieved all our initial objectives. Taking back PoK or balkanizing Porks was not the objective for this particular war. Could have been bonuses but not our initial goal.
 
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Most people know it..Its a war so we kept supporting.

In every briefing this question comes and is evaded by them.

Its not hard to guess.

But like they said…objective is more important than aircraft.

Pakis are jumping but let me tell you…i am ok with even 5 jets down if it is true or even 6 like they claim today.

But getting 11 airfields and 3 radar sites blown i wont take.

Pakistan can claim nothing except 1 rafale and few other fighter kills.
If it's anything but a Rafale or an MKI, I'm okay with it. Not these two or specifically the Rafale for it's the best we have. And that best is going to be the tip of the spear against the Chinese who're an entirely different kettle of fish.

Which is what makes this bit of news upsetting to say the least that we lost a front line FA to a bunch of goat phuckers flying second or 3rd line FAs in the country of their origin be it the J-10 or the F-16.

Of course having said that we need to consider the circumstances too. Will end it here as I don't want to spark off another wild goose chase of speculations counter speculations and on & on.
 
This incident proves that Pakistani nuclear weapons pose a greater risk to Pakistan’s own population than to India. In the event of a full-scale war, the Indian military would be compelled to target Pakistan’s nuclear bases to prevent their use. Such strikes would likely lead to nuclear leaks, resulting in the deaths of millions of Pakistanis due to radiation exposure—even without the actual use of nuclear weapons.

Ukraine, chose to surrender its nuclear arsenal because it recognized that, in any conflict with Russia, their nuclear sites would be primary targets.
Have you checked for OCD ? I've seen you hung up on the N dilemma of Paxtan for the past 20 pages at least. Aren't there other topics to consider?
 
That is my point exactly. This is the official US govt statement.


View: https://x.com/sootradhar/status/1921600319764459579?s=46

If our missile strikes actually destroyed the facility underground the pakistani PM would have no leverage against the Americans which directly contradicts what the above set of events say with shebaz threatening America with the loss of military control over nuclear assets. You cannot make that threat if your entire arsenal is buried.

I will make a follow up post later that catalogues what might have happened exactly based on the information we have.

I don't think it is official US statement .if it was official it would have been everywhere , this looks like source statement ..
 
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