Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

Gandaberunda said:
If we want to seriously capture land we can make Indian border till Indus River in Sindh. But capturing the Sindh territory is easy ( army) holding back the captured territory is the biggest test for our leaders (politicians)
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Yes, Thats the real problem and one of the reasons why I am not advocating for full war. We gain nothing much in it. We can't hold the territory, we can't impose the new pliable regime and so on. All just for a spectacle. People are just getting high on i don't know whatever it is. But its not strategic.

The best thing we can do in this decade is to keep the pigs in boil let their internal mess splinter them into pieces. Later we can gobble up the strategic boundaries with those smaller or weaker nations.

We gain seriously nothing from a full blown war. We just loose our weight. A limited and restricted conflict is best for us. If we want to impose our will militarily we can do that in next decade. Not in this decade.
 
Ajayant Tripathi said:
Yes, Thats the real problem and one of the reasons why I am not advocating for full war. We gain nothing much in it. We can't hold the territory, we can't impose the new pliable regime and so on. All just for a spectacle. People are just getting high on i don't know whatever it is. But its not strategic.

The best thing we can do in this decade is to keep the pigs in boil let their internal mess splinter them into pieces. Later we can gobble up the strategic boundaries with those smaller or weaker nations.

We gain seriously nothing from a full blown war. We just loose our weight. A limited and restricted conflict is best for us. If we want to impose our will militarily we can do that in next decade. Not in this decade.
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We have kept them boiling since 1948. Now we will turn on to MAX temperature of the burner and roast them dry. From your analysis, it is understandable that you are ready to ignore history and of course, born/gained worldview after 2001 Parliament attacks.
 
Nutcracker said:
Are porky jeff Blunders even equipped with PL15 ? Most of the sources use morphed and edited pics. Chongs wont integrate their top of the line missile with Blunder considering that it will hamper their J10CE sales to Porkistan and rest of prospective customers.
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That's why I asked for other members to confirm that account is isi one and that missile was looking awfuly similar to pl 12 and even pl12 look much bigger on jf 17 and pl 15 is even bigger missile
 
username unkown said:
Calm down guys that pl15 with jf 17 post was porki it handle it claims pl 15 range to be 200 km where chinease themselves caim it to be 140-148km sometihing and thease numbers are over exaggeration all of the time so actual range might be 120-130 km which is no match for meteor

And that bvr missile was looking more similar to pl12 as it pl 12 some one confirm i could be wrong

If that is pl 15 in jf 17 than it won't be able to guide it without awacs as its air cooled radar it won't be detecting anything
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Pakis operate pl-15e, not pl-15, the e(export) version has a range of 145km, chongs will never give thier best stuff to pakis, cause they know it will end up hands of american engineers.
 
username unkown said:
That's why I asked for other members to confirm that account is isi one and that missile was looking awfuly similar to pl 12 and even pl12 look much bigger on jf 17 and pl 15 is even bigger missile
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this is pl 12 and pl 5c
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pl 15 or pl 15e ? and pl 10
 
concard said:
I hope members here have mercy on people who are looking for new information or any new kind analyses about the present situation whether it's military or economically speaking. It is becoming tiring to scroll page after page with same information and few lines of nothing comments.

So I was just checking out their military arsenal mainly air force and navy. Most of F-16s have become old. Lot of them are above 20 years and some even 30 years. Without Uncle Sam's cooperation it is impossible to keep them in flying condition. Since the days of Uncle Sam giving freebies is over, Porkis every now and then strike a deal for spare parts, missiles, and some small upgrades of their F-16s. Recently, Trump did approve $400 million for F-16 fleet maintenance. Since it is very recent you can bet this will take a long time to upgrade them.

With respect to their Chinese weapons, none of them were given for free including recently bought J-10s. With the failure of CPEC where Chinese have sunk billions with no hope for recovery anytime soon, you can bet given their stinginess they will not part with single cent to Porki scum. All the missiles like P-15, P-10 they are supplying to them are for a big price.

Coming to the present, remember this important point. Porki scum have no manufacturing base. Every time they fire a expensive missile like AIM-120 from F-16, P-15 from J17 or J-10, their bank balance would be draining at the rate of minimum $1 million - $2 million when they press fire. Same applies to their navy as well. Their military have been built up during good times when US and China were little generous. If India takes out their aircrafts mainly F-16, JF-17, J-10, submarines, ships etc, it will set them back by 20-30 years. There is no free lunch in today's world. Their stockpile of missiles used by their air force and navy might barely last for a week of combat.
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We also suffer from same disease but not to that degree. They still can inflict some damage to us. The point is not that they are cooked. They are definitely cooked. Its beyond doubt now. We are in a territory we can cook them for sure. Now question is do we really need to cook them or let them collapse in their own weight. The point is shall we let them drain us so that dragon can later cook us. The pigs are no longer existential threat to us. Its the pig hordes once our state is cooked by the dragon.

A limited skirmish is all we need to accelerate the pigs death.
 
Threat of a attack is often more damaging to a nation than attack itself, when reagan came to power, he massively increase anti soviet rhetoric and started all sort of crazy defence projects like star wars program. This was done to keep USSR on edge, reagan knew that soviet economy has struggling, with this move he basically overloaded the Soviet economy which eventually lead to its dissolution.

We have to have a similar plan for next 10-15 years, massive investments in stuff like BMD, acquisition of ficv, howitzers and ships, all of this puts pressure on porkistan's tinpot economy.
 
spikey360 said:
We have kept them boiling since 1948. Now we will turn on to MAX temperature of the burner and roast them dry. From your analysis, it is understandable that you are ready to ignore history and of course, born/gained worldview after 2001 Parliament attacks.
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I am not ignoring history. I am definitely aware of the threats.
Their are two threats to us:
1. Threat to state from Dragon
2. Threat to our culture from pig hordes.

Till 1971 Porkistan was a threat to both our state and our culture. Now its not a threat to our state.

A full war is not gonna help us. We can't loose a half a trillion dollar Delhi-NCR to them. Neither we can loose skittish pigeons (investors) now at this point.

in the end i will appreciate a detailed perspective and analysis of yours.
 
Pakis are shitting bricks.. Looks like we will conduct a swarm drone attack..

I guess this is the field where we have full domination over paxtan army.. Indian armed forces mainly army nd airforce have procured various swarm drones,loitering munitions & fpv drones in good numbers from several private drone manufacturers.. like NRT, Raphe m phibir, Solar industry etc.. main point being all our drones are indigenous nd from pvt industry wiz can be mass produced when required.

Indian armed forces rightly learnt lessons from RusoUkrn conflict where drones are the deciding factor even when russia had formidable airforce.

We can rain havoc in pok with our swarm drone and pakistan won't even know what hit them.. for counter we also hv distinct counter UAS system which can be increased in service when required.


View: https://youtu.be/YOU_W6l1QvA
 
PL-12AE：3.94m， 203mm diameter， 214kg
PL-15E：3.99m， 203mm diameter， 210kg

btw PAF owns 20 J-10CE
 

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eastern_bhartiya said:
Threat of a attack is often more damaging to a nation than attack itself, when reagan came to power, he massively increase anti soviet rhetoric and started all sort of crazy defence projects like star wars program. This was done to keep USSR on edge, reagan knew that soviet economy has struggling, with this move he basically overloaded the Soviet economy which eventually lead to its dissolution.

We have to have a similar plan for next 10-15 years, massive investments in stuff like BMD, acquisition of ficv, howitzers and ships, all of this puts pressure on porkistan's tinpot economy.
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just 5-7 years is enough.
 
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