Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

Different indications
1. First time Modi ji publicly warned about action
2. Multiple exercises by iaf
3. Navy is doing exercises
4. I&b advised media not to show defence movement s
5. Multiple meeting s by defence chiefs , yesterday rajnath sigh met 3 defence chiefs
6. Now it's in news that doval and eam will skip brics meeting.
7. Some suspicious foreign jets landed in India , last time a friendly nation gave their deployed bmd system in pla standoff.
8. Pakistan is moving it's equipos( they must have got some intelligence)
9. Sudden rise in cfv
10. Exercises by army ,with tanks in rajasthan

I believe we are preparing.......
 
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Oki there has been lot of dhoti shivering since last few days by incognizant peeps with their half a$$ baked analysis of IAF vis a vis PAF.

although not entirely flawed given the balakot fiasco but a lot of capabilities nd key enablers were added in IAF meanwhile keeping cognizant of lesson learnt with two major wars nd associated skirmishes a la RussUkrn war & Isreal Iran skirmish (operation days of repentance)

In this analysis i will try to present a realistic picture of the current capabilities of both IAF vis a vis PAF nd why PAF can't do a repeat of swift retort without incurring any loses.

IAF current capabilities and key enablers after 2019 where we have filled all the gaps nd technical capabilities that we found lagging.

1. S400 - strategic area denial capability that we have added after 2019 & in this era of air denial instead of air superiority it can be the deciding key enabler harrassing PAF strike package at long ranges disrupting their ORBAT.

2. MRSAM- both IAF & Army operates MRSAM close to border particular aimed at air base defense, area defense and to augment S400. it has an aesa seeker which is jam resistant wiz PAF strike package will find onerous to shake of as they are equipped with rudimentary self protection jammers based on DRFM.

3. IACCS, VAYULINK & Bnet SDR- we were found lacking in this part where during swift retort PAF could jam our comms. Now with addition of Bnet-AR SDR that problem is solved also all our air defense units, tactical nd long range radars are connected with IACCS providing a complete situational awareness reducing the chances of blue on blue strike.

4. ISRAELI PGMs - We have inducted various Israeli pgms a la Rocks ALBM (crystal maze 2), rampage, ice breaker (bdl is manufacturing it in house can be pressed in service), Air lora (bel is manufacturing it in house can be pressed in service). IAF has rightly learnt lessons from israeli use of ALBMs while destroying Iran's S300 ADS during operation days of repentance. ALBMs can wreck havoc to any tactical nd strategic ADS & currently PAF lacks this capability.

Swarms Drones, loitering munitions-massive edge we have with this capabilities over paxtan. Both IAF nd Army units operates various tactical swarm drones nd loitering munitions of different kind nd ranges which can wreck havoc on PAF air defense units, radars & command centre located near border.. IAF has recently inducted jet powered swarm drones Suresharta mk1 having a range of 150km from veda aerospace. Our industrial capacity nd over 200+ drones startups can fill the numbers whenever required.. however paxtan with its non existent industrial capacity depends on chinese nd turkish knock offs.

Rafale- armed with long range SFDR meteor it will gaurd our strike package from any PAF CAPs. Su 30s armed with rocks albm, rampage nd air lora will strike designated terror camp from safe distance while rafale will provide the safety net.

We have upgraded the rafale's spectra with low band jammers with ISE. The standard SPECTRA system is highly effective against high- and mid-band radar threats..using AESA antennas for jamming and digital radio frequency memory (DRFM) for signal coherence. However modern air defense systems operated by PAF (HQ9B) operate across a broader spectrum including low-band frequencies.. Low-band radars are harder to jam due to their longer wavelengths and resilience to traditional countermeasures..Adding low-band jammers enhances SPECTRA’s ability to disrupt these radars..enabling Rafale to evade detection nd targeting by advanced SAM systems..

We have also equipped Rafale with X-Guard fiber-optic towed decoys.. to counter against air to air missile nd SAMs including those with monopulse and lobe-on-receive-only (LORO) radars..which are resistant to traditional EW countermeasures..Towed decoys provide an additional layer of protection allowing Rafale to evade missiles even if detected particularly during suppression of enemy air defenses (SEAD) or while protecting IAFs strike packages (su 30 or mirage) from PAF CAPs. It will also enable IAF rafale pilots to be extra aggressive while they can push more nd launch meteor at its NEZ as PAF lacks any towed decoys capabilities in their air vectors.

Thus RAFALE though in limited numbers will bloody the PAF nose while it tries to respond to IAF attack.

So do hell with all this dhoti shivering.. PAF only poses limited ( both in quantity nd quality) chinese jets.. this time they won't be able to repeat any swift retort without incurring any loses. We are in much better position compared to 2019 as now we have both long sticks with meteor nd Air denial capabilities with S400 nd MRSAM.. so rest assured nd believe in ur armed forces.. our response will come it's just an question of when.. nd this time we will definitely teach terrorist state paxtan a lesson that it won't forget for a longtime.
 
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MarDePopins said:
Oki there has been lot of dhoti shivering since last few days by incognizant peeps with their half a$$ baked analysis of IAF vis a vis PAF.

although not entirely flawed given the balakot fiasco but a lot of capabilities nd key enablers were added in IAF meanwhile keeping cognizant of lesson learnt with two major wars nd associated skirmishes a la RussUkrn war & Isreal Iran skirmish (operation days of repentance)

In this analysis i will try to present a realistic picture of the current capabilities of both IAF vis a vis PAF nd why PAF can't do a repeat of swift retort without incurring any loses.

IAF current capabilities and key enablers after 2019 where we have filled all the gaps nd technical capabilities that we found lagging.

1. S400 - strategic area denial capability that we have added after 2019 & in this era of air denial instead of air superiority it can be the deciding key enabler harrassing PAF strike package at long ranges disrupting their ORBAT.

2. MRSAM- both IAF & Army operates MRSAM close to border particular aimed at air base defense, area defense and to augment S400. it has an aesa seeker which is jam resistant wiz PAF strike package will find onerous to shake of as they are equipped with rudimentary self protection jammers based on DRFM.

3. IACCS, VAYULINK & Bnet SDR- we were found lacking in this part where during swift retort PAF could jam our comms. Now with addition of Bnet-AR SDR that problem is solved also all our air defense units, tactical nd long range radars are connected with IACCS providing a complete situational awareness reducing the chances of blue on blue strike.

4. ISRAELI PGMs - We have inducted various Israeli pgms a la Rocks ALBM (crystal maze 2), rampage, ice breaker (bdl is manufacturing it in house can be pressed in service), Air lora (bel is manufacturing it in house can be pressed in service). IAF has rightly learnt lessons from israeli use of ALBMs while destroying Iran's S300 ADS during operation days of repentance. ALBMs can wreck havoc to any tactical nd strategic ADS & currently PAF lacks this capability.

Swarms Drones, loitering munitions-massive edge we have with this capabilities over paxtan. Both IAF nd Army units operates various tactical swarm drones nd loitering munitions of different kind nd ranges which can wreck havoc on PAF air defense units, radars & command centre located near border.. IAF has recently inducted jet powered swarm drones Suresharta mk1 having a range of 150km from veda aerospace. Our industrial capacity nd over 200+ drones startups can fill the numbers whenever required.. however paxtan with its non existent industrial capacity depends on chinese nd turkish knock offs.

Rafale- armed with long range SFDR meteor it will gaurd our strike package from any PAF CAPs. Su 30s armed with rocks albm, rampage nd air lora will strike designated terror camp from safe distance while rafale will provide the safety net.

We have upgraded the rafale's spectra with low band jammers with ISE. The standard SPECTRA system is highly effective against high- and mid-band radar threats..using AESA antennas for jamming and digital radio frequency memory (DRFM) for signal coherence. However modern air defense systems operated by PAF (HQ9B) operate across a broader spectrum including low-band frequencies.. Low-band radars are harder to jam due to their longer wavelengths and resilience to traditional countermeasures..Adding low-band jammers enhances SPECTRA’s ability to disrupt these radars..enabling Rafale to evade detection nd targeting by advanced SAM systems..

We have also equipped Rafale with X-Guard fiber-optic towed decoys.. to counter against air to air missile nd SAMs including those with monopulse and lobe-on-receive-only (LORO) radars..which are resistant to traditional EW countermeasures..Towed decoys provide an additional layer of protection allowing Rafale to evade missiles even if detected particularly during suppression of enemy air defenses (SEAD) or while protecting IAFs strike packages (su 30 or mirage) from PAF CAPs. It will also enable IAF rafale pilots to be extra aggressive while they can push more nd launch meteor at its NEZ as PAF lacks any towed decoys capabilities in their air vectors.

Thus RAFALE though in limited numbers will bloody the PAF nose while it trys to respond to IAF attack.

So do hell with all this dhoti shivering.. PAF only poses limited ( both in quantity nd quality) chinese jets.. this time they won't be able to repeat any swift retort without incurring any loses. We are in much better position compared to 2019 as now we have both long sticks with meteor nd Air denial capabilities with S400 nd MRSAM.. so rest assured nd believe in ur armed forces.. our response will come it's just an question of when.. nd this time we will definitely teach terrorist state paxtan a lesson that it won't forget for a longtime.
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The main reason why paf pulled swift retort was because presence of erieye awacs and their strongest weapon french made dassault falcon electronic warfare jet. Falcon was able to jam the comms and radars of indian jets and their awacs were able to guide their amraams to our su 30mki and mig 21 we do not know what changes they have made to their electronic warfare equipments and how good they are but taking them lightly will be a mistake.

PAf has also introduced loitering munitions and they do have full support of turkish drones which are well known to be best in class. Their turkish drones can run havok on indian sam systems as seen in russo ukraine war so it can also be not taken lightly.

They have also introduced pl15 to their jf17 fleet which gives them ability to strike indian jets from well inside paf airspace but this is not a major ability as bvr missiles are seldom powerfull to strike at their max ranges.

I have no doubt that on paper indian air force looks way stronger then paf but taking your enemy lightly is a death sentence .
Overall indian air force should get the air superiority over paf if all assets are used properly and every scenario is thought of.
S 400 AND rafales are very important assets.
 
Some 5 to 6 months ago we had a discussion about the stipulated time required to track and destroy all PN offensive ships.
I think we need to reconsider this option.
By the far the most economically costly punishment we can dish out to Pak without much losses on our own side.
It would take some 8 billion to rejuvenate the entire PN once it's sunk, they'll have to eat mud this time instead of grass.
 
Suryavanshi said:
Some 5 to 6 months ago we had a discussion about the stipulated time required to track and destroy all PN offensive ships.
I think we need to reconsider this option.
By the far the most economically costly punishment we can dish out to Pak without much losses on our own side.
It would take some 8 billion to rejuvenate the entire PN once it's sunk, they'll have to eat mud this time instead of grass.
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And they would eat mud
I have been saying for so long that we must use navy
That we must choke Pakistan from its Afghan and Iranian border
That once their navy is butchered it will become easy to deal with their air force and army
Plus we can also land our assets in karachi
 
Suryavanshi said:
Some 5 to 6 months ago we had a discussion about the stipulated time required to track and destroy all PN offensive ships.
I think we need to reconsider this option.
By the far the most economically costly punishment we can dish out to Pak without much losses on our own side.
It would take some 8 billion to rejuvenate the entire PN once it's sunk, they'll have to eat mud this time instead of grass.
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Yep. Using Navy as a primary attack force and keeping the rest in reserve once pakis decide to escalate is a good option. Cost effective one too. Besides, tactical nukes threat won't work on navy led attack.
 
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