Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

[MasterChief]

There is a larger geopolitical game brewing here. But the game doesn't predate the attack, rather, it is counting on India's retaliation to the attack. Remember, China has the BRO projects running through PoK that give China an alternative land route to a port (Karachi) in the event that the Strait of Malacca is blocked. Shutting down that major logistical pathway can pay massive strategic dividends to the US in a confrontation with China, which btw, is also brewing.
China certainly knows this, but in the current geopolitical climate, it is choosing to consolidate its economic interests rather than protect a Plan B.

Malacca .. shalaka.. is not and never will be an alternative to sea trade.. Just look at the damned terrain of the Karakoram range and how far it is from China's economic heart on its eastern sea board ... The costs are prohibitive
It is just some sh*t cooked up by 56d armchair geo strategists
The only thing that will make China a true superpower is it taking Taiwan, and dominating the First Island chain, which can be currently used to choke the chinese economy..by the US and Japanese navies..

 

[karn]

Only 1 area porkroaches seems to be ahead of us is the artillery. They outnumber us in self propelled and rocket artillery, in case of offensive towed artillery won't be that useful.
IA themselves to be blamed as they have no interedt in mgs

Wait .. Rocket artillery too? Don't we have significant numbers of pinaka .. Leave alone grads and smerch.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

India vs. Pakistan Military Strength: A Detailed Analysis of Army, Navy and Air Force

This analysis compares the armed forces (army, navy, and air force) of India and Pakistan, examining their respective capabilities and strategic advantages.

www.jagranjosh.com

India vs Pakistan Military Strength: Land Power​

When we look at land power, India has more tanks and armoured vehicles than Pakistan. India has 4,201 tanks, while Pakistan has 2,627. India also has a lot more armoured vehicles (148,594) compared to Pakistan (17,516).
However, Pakistan has more self-propelled artillery (662) and mobile rocket projectors (600) than India, which has 100 and 264, respectively.
India does have more towed artillery guns (3,975) than Pakistan (2,629). So, while India has more of some ground weapons, Pakistan has more of others.

Weapon Type	India	Pakistan
Tank Strength	4,201	2,627
Armored Vehicles	148,594	17,516
Self-Propelled Artillery	100	662
Towed Artillery	3,975	2,629
Mobile Rocket Projectors	264	600

we have focused to heavily on armor, while many are moving away from armor to air UAV's and attack helicopters. Kickbacks from russians are clearly visible.

 

[MasterChief]

they claim mach 4??, they claim they can make 1000 a day? they claim range exceed 200km?
they claim it is totally automated little to no humans involved?? and it is fire and forget and it is unjammable It is designed for high value targets. Advertised as improvement of METEOR?

China reveals manufacturing process of its PL-15 air-to-air missile

According to an article by China Arms on August 13, 2023, China has publicly disclosed the manufacturing process of its advanced PL-15 air-to-air missile.

armyrecognition.com

Fact: it is an untested missile on an untested plane with a pilot who does not read chinese.

1000 a day is for cruise missiles.. they claim to make 1000 a day for all missiles.. but in reality there are material, electronics, and semiconductor constraints.. the only thing that has no constraints is Chink bullsh*t

 

[MasterChief]

this is not my claim many things IMO seem farfetched in the link. Chinese make it in an automated process they claim; upto 1000 a day is possible (BS)

People had debunked it on twitter saying that the kind of automation chinks showed for cruise missiles production can be easily replicated elsewhere.. and that it proves nothing.. Chini hype..
Now they are the foremost industrial power.. but they also hype their capabilities..

 

[randombully]

Abe gawaro stop the needless propaganda, you are fooling your own countrymen. Tomorrow Indian news channels will be displaying these propaganda and we will be a laughing stock globally.

Apne logo ko hi to karna hai fool.
Paki logo ka propaganda bhi Indians ko fool karne ke liye hai.

 

[randombully]

Pakistan’s Bravado is falling Apart


It is in the news that half of Pakistan’s F-16/52 Block have been moved away from the glare of Indian missiles and Indian fighter attacks. Pakistan is trying to protect these from India sniper like missiles which Indian Rafale carry.

Much to Pakistani dismay a JF-17 and F-10C has crashed during routine exercises. Pakistanis would not have reported to crash but Martin Baker, the maker aircraft escape chute reported that. They wish to take the credit for the Pakistani pilot……. Bad news for over confident Pakistanis and bad for their morale if the war is about to break out.

India cannot stop half way; it has to cross the LOC and capture the vital infiltration routes. That may not be enough for Jihadi minded country built on Islamic propaganda. In order to break that Islamic over confidence, India has to capture all areas upto Lahore and Sialkot and most important is t capture the Kartarpur Gurdwara area which is important to Sikh community and was missed by Nehru when the Radcliffe line was being drawn.

Dont stop midway PM Modi; peaceniks will advise you stop. They are in fact are paid agents.

See the effect already of the hardwork
Hari daddu already beleives the truth we are spreading.

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

this is not my claim many things IMO seem farfetched in the link. Chinese make it in an automated process they claim; upto 1000 a day is possible (BS)

i know its not your claim lol, i was pointing out stupid stuff

 

[LETHALFORCE]

People had debunked it on twitter saying that the kind of automation chinks showed for cruise missiles production can be easily replicated elsewhere.. and that it proves nothing.. Chini hype..
Now they are the foremost industrial power.. but they also hype their capabilities..

They want to project an image of power that does not exist. A paper tiger.


View: https://x.com/That_isChina/status/1915989946210652211




View: https://x.com/FrontalForce/status/1805132972363755970

 

[randombully]

Only 1 area porkroaches seems to be ahead of us is the artillery. They outnumber us in self propelled and rocket artillery, in case of offensive towed artillery won't be that useful.
IA themselves to be blamed as they have no interedt in mgs

How good is their anti drone capabilities?

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

1000 a day is for cruise missiles.. they claim to make 1000 a day for all missiles.. but in reality there are material, electronics, and semiconductor constraints.. the only thing that has no constraints is Chink bullsh*t

chinks hyping their stuff is nothing new, DF-17 is similar wunderwaffe according to them

 

[randombully]

chinks hyping their stuff is nothing new, DF-17 is similar wunderwaffe according to them

It is still unclear whether the anti ship varient of df17 is in service or still in testing.

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

How good is their anti drone capabilities?

non existent , we have own soft kill systems, QRSAM, pantsir.

 

[JConline]

Malacca .. shalaka.. is not and never will be an alternative to sea trade.. Just look at the damned terrain of the Karakoram range and how far it is from China's economic heart on its eastern sea board ... The costs are prohibitive
It is just some sh*t cooked up by 56d armchair geo strategists
The only thing that will make China a true superpower is it taking Taiwan, and dominating the First Island chain, which can be currently used to choke the chinese economy..by the US and Japanese navies..

Well, there's a reason China isn't so keen on protecting its investments in PoK's BRO projects. At this moment, China would rather keep India happy than side with Pakistan in the wake of that tariff war. Like it or not, that is a fact.

 

[randombully]

non existent , we have own soft kill systems, QRSAM, pantsir.

Their artillary is fucked.

 

[laxman09]

When (if) the ops begin... What's our plan for info warfare? I'm personally willing to spend 1 lakh/month - hopefully other senior maulanas can pitch in jaisi unki shraddha - towards narrative warfare and disinfo campaigns. Should focus on producing high quality AI generated psyops - crashed airframes, bombed armoured vehicles, leaked official docs etc and flood X, insta and other distribution channels. Will also need a swarm of bots/zombies to like/share/propagate the message. Our ADGPI is useless when compard to ISPR, so think us jingos to have to do the needful.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

non existent , we have own soft kill systems, QRSAM, pantsir.

you can also add SPYDER to that. If India brings out it's old smerches that might be enough
to wipe out whole PAKI artillery inventory.

 

[brat4]

Each and every terrorist lone wolf strike can somehow be tracked back to Pakistan..

And their entire modus operandi tends to be this:
Anything they want to obliterate but cannot do so in a straight fight, they will somehow bring an island angle, like somehow you are against Islam or Allah and that makes it all right to do anything they want against you be it lynching, beheading, bombing etc.

Desensitize the fact that saying anything against Islam should mean shit.

Lal topi is the best example. He can convert all Imran Khan supporters and army opposers as "you are all against Islam and that's why you are beghairat"

Since Pakistan was "made in name of Islam and Allah himself ordained it", stepping on a pak flag is somehow haraam.

Who said it was ordained by Allah? Why would a country made in name of Allah be equal to Islam?
This ideological battle needs to be won along with the kinetic battle

 

[brat4]

When (if) the ops begin... What's our plan for info warfare? I'm personally willing to spend 1 lakh/month - hopefully other senior maulanas can pitch in jaisi unki shraddha - towards narrative warfare and disinfo campaigns. Should focus on producing high quality AI generated psyops - crashed airframes, bombed armoured vehicles, leaked official docs etc and flood X, insta and other distribution channels. Will also need a swarm of bots/zombies to like/share/propagate the message. Our ADGPI is useless when compard to ISPR, so think us jingos to have to do the needful.

I would like to join forces with you.

 

[sameer]

I don't understand this unnecessary jingoism going on around this. Even ex-military personnel are shouting like the dogs of war that Pakistan wants to portray us as. The real strategists are calm and collected. Even on this thread, people need to understand that the only viable way to destroy a country from its roots is to rot its economy into oblivion. We've seen the US try and do a military takeover and what the consequences have been. We are the people of Kautilya. The steps that have been taken till now will choke Pakistan in the next 10 years if they don't fix themselves. Then they won't have even the most basic natural resources. That's the real game here. And there will be substantial kinetic action, possibly to take back PoK, and done in a way that dwarfs whatever Pakistan can retaliate with so that the Pakistani terror apparatus is shamed and essentially rendered crippled, both in terms of public support and capability. And something of this nature has to be a very calibrated military action. The nuclear deterrent always has to be kept in mind. We, in our jingoism assume that Paki warheads in Chinese missiles are worthless but military strategists cannot afford that luxury.

Personally, what I want right now the most is high level assassinations in their elite. Though I don't know if R&AW has the reach to actually do so and conduct such operations.

Paki elite don’t really care about their soldiers or their awaam getting 72ed even if it’s in the tens of thousands. It’s like fighting fidayeen zombies. Need to somehow start hitting at the top, maybe coordinate with TTP, BLA.