Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

Roshan said:
Have seen a retired serviceman's video doing the rounds on WhatsApp which calls into question why none of the several able bodied men fought back, maybe some of you have also seen it. I am not going to go and check back on this thread if it's been commented on but he says out of all of them only the pony operator supposedly fought back and he wasn't even threatened, rest of them just meekly did what they were told to and even dropped their pants when asked to. Even someone who charged at the terrorists and went for their guns could've prevented many of these deaths. When facing assault rifles though, even 2 serving men couldn't do anything probably also because they were with family so I'm not sure if it's as easy as this gentleman is saying it was to show some fight and not co-operate in that situation. It takes more than training but a particular frame of mind/temperament to deal with such situations which most city dwelling Indians just don't/won't have due to a lack of need.
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If you are certain that you will be killed, non cooperation is the best method. The key idea is to delay them.

But it has made one thing clear to me. I am not going to kashmir unarmed.
 
jaishrikrishna said:
This is a very important development- An SSG commando behind the attack on our people.

A casus belli for the impending strikes. The strikes are likely not gonna be confined to LeT hideouts but will be directed at their handler akas i.e. Pak military.
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SSG trained, not SSG themselves. That's the intent behind the leak
 
Pakistani news channels are proudly claiming their army shot down an Indian Quadcopter. I did a reverse image search of the wreckage — turns out it’s a quadcopter you can buy on AliExpress
 
srev2004 said:
SSG trained or SSG, the involvement of Pak military to send an asset to kill unarmed civilians should include them under the retaliation umbrella
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jaishrikrishna said:
He is a former para commando of special forces. "Former" does not matter here.
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Agreed. But I feels like GoI wants to make that distinction so attack can be against terrorists, not PA
 
Tridev123 said:
Please don't use adjectives like 'stupid'. Using any form of abuse even if very mild in nature means that you don't have convincing logical arguments.

First the Chinese have the MBRL systems like the PHL- 16 and the PCL- 191 which have ranges from 350 to 500 kms.
If the PLA has seen sense in developing these very long range MBRL systems, you cannot call the professionals in the PLA stupid for their efforts.

You personally may not agree with the idea. Fine, but don't use words like stupid to artificially inflate your IQ level.

If you want an American type response 'I care a damn about your arguments'.

The idea per se is technically feasible.

The flowery statement that 'you can't just bomb the headquarters of a nuclear state' shows that you are chicken hearted. Okay, I respect your opinion but please don't deride the opinion of others.

For God's sake - You cannot win the war by by bombing the Rawalpindi GHQ of the Pakistan Army. Its more about delivering psychological blows to the enemy and degrade his morale.

If we want to end this diplomatically we can say
'we agree to disagree'
Or if you prefer an exchange of abuses, so be it.
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Its not a far fetched idea to bomb their headquarter actually. Every time they do some misadeventure we should respond by some heavy artillery and gradually ramp up the radius of our hammering. If we had responded in this manner to other attacks on our forces by openning up our long range artillery i am sure they would have caught the pattern and in a phalgam like attack we could have easily fired at their hq and reminded them they are in our reach.

But unfortunately our focus is mainly in doing only some encounters. There should be a clear response to the porkis that day by day we are increasing the baseline retaliation. Now, we are stuck with thinking what should be the appropirate response. Had we made it clear that anything in 200KM from Border will be in our reach and we will pummel them should have taught them a few things.
 
LETHALFORCE said:

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1916398811544437065

most military "analysts" estimate pakistan does not have enough gas to fight beyond 2-3 weeks.
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That's why porky army has its tentacles deep down in fuel smuggling business at Iran-Pork border. How will we stop that. 5-6M L black market fuel is nealy 30% to their white import of crude.

www.voanews.com

Official: Iran smuggles ‘5 to 6 million liters’ of oil into Pakistan daily

Pakistan's military rejects long-standing allegations that it is also playing a role in illegal trade
www.voanews.com www.voanews.com
 
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