Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

abingdonboy said:
What does this even mean? Secret preparation? Isn’t that what peacetime is for

Secret mobilisation? You can’t do that at scale

Weeks? Wtf is the cold start doctrine then?
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If troop mobilisation is serious, there will be very little information available. But if the mobilisation is just for public consumption, the entire media will cover it—just like what’s happening in Pakistan now, where the media is extensively reporting on how the military is preparing for war with India.
 
Ajatshatru said:
If troop mobilisation is serious, there will be very little information available. But if the mobilisation is just for public consumption, the entire media will cover it—just like what’s happening in Pakistan now, where the media is extensively reporting on how the military is preparing for war with India.
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As others have said you can’t hide mass mobilisation. Everyone has a phone and internet access now

I’m not even convinced the Pakistanis are mobilising, both sides seem to know the script

The Pakistanis don’t seem remotely worried
 
deathmonger said:
One thing is for certain.

Next 10-15 years Tejas, AMCA and Kaveri have to be prioritized with haste.

Bleed Pak via BLA/TTP and dams etc.
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By the next 10 15 years china will be giving Pakistan 7th gen fighter . 2000 Rupey me.
Boat has sailed .

As for bleed paki…. W/o khud mare hue hain. We might end up being terrorist sponsors in world.

Things have to change too much we need revolution. Or a miracle.

This kind of time india might never get. When world is busy in war and tarrif. China is busy with US tarrif. Pakistan is at worst possible level. Turkey is under recession. Middle East want Indian business.

Worst thing Pakistan can do for us is make india look like nobody gives two hoots about us. We are weak.

Media will change to some other domestic topic.

Govt will face wrath in voting.
 
abingdonboy said:
As others have said you can’t hide mass mobilisation. Everyone has a phone and internet access now

I’m not even convinced the Pakistanis are mobilising, both sides seem to know the script

The Pakistanis don’t seem remotely worried
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On the Pakistani side, everything is being reported—aircraft movements, troop mobilisation, press conferences by the DG ISPR, and even parliamentary discussions about war. On the Indian side, there is complete silence—and that silence is the real indication of war preparations, not the media’s war drum beating.
 
shade2 said:
I've seen such a bulge in our Punjab also, any idea what's the official name?
It's same as Akhnoor "dagger", surrounded on 3 sides by India.
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You are talking about this region.
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Narowal bulge. Basically, PakArmy wants to cut the supply by annexing this area (Pathankot). It will cutdown the NH-44 (Srinagar-Kanyakumari) Highway, Upcoming Delhi-Katra Expressway. They tried it in every war.

On the other hand, we outright violate Lahore in this case. Also the bulge is 60 KM wide from PAK end and we can fire Pinaka for fun from all 3 ends. It is very suicidal at current scene.
 
Ajatshatru said:
As long as the public is unaware of any troop mobilisation, it’s serious—it means preparations for war are underway. But if the leadership is openly announcing troop movements and talking about war, then no war is likely to happen; it’s just for PR.
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All 3 branches has deployed assets and manpower. Saw a report from Republic ,makeshift iron bunker has been placed in desert . Not finding the video again.
 
"Chinese communication tools, including banned Huawei satellite phones and encrypted messaging apps, are believed to have helped foreign terrorists maintain contact with their handlers across the border and evade detection."

m.economictimes.com

A Chinese shadow falls on Pahalgam terror attack case

Chinese techs growing presence in cross-border terrorism has come under scrutiny after banned Huawei satellite phones were found at the Pahalgam attack site. China, a key weapons and tech supplier to Pakistan, has also reportedly been helping upgrade Pakistans defence infrastructure along the...
m.economictimes.com m.economictimes.com
 
Drwho said:
By the next 10 15 years china will be giving Pakistan 7th gen fighter . 2000 Rupey me.
Boat has sailed .

As for bleed paki…. W/o khud mare hue hain. We might end up being terrorist sponsors in world.

Things have to change too much we need revolution. Or a miracle.

This kind of time india might never get. When world is busy in war and tarrif. China is busy with US tarrif. Pakistan is at worst possible level. Turkey is under recession. Middle East want Indian business.
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Issue is one of domestic capability.

If you have domestic capability, no amount of buying can replace what we can build.

And in 10-15 years china won't have 7th gen, will have 6th gen. Their 6th gen won't even be ready till 2030s.

Pakistan can buy as much as it wants. We with our much larger economy (should be around 16-17x by then) can also buy the Tempest or the French one while having native capabilities for 5th gen and working on 6th gen.
 
deathmonger said:
Issue is one of domestic capability.

If you have domestic capability, no amount of buying can replace what we can build.

And in 10-15 years china won't have 7th gen, will have 6th gen. Their 6th gen won't even be ready till 2030s.

Pakistan can buy as much as it wants. We with our much larger economy (should be around 16-17x by then) can also buy the Tempest or the French one while having native capabilities for 5th gen and working on 6th gen.
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On way u see is if we can somehow help world slow down china. And build ourselves. Need to get involved with right sides and take A stand when needed
 
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TringTringMonster said:
Mobilization has gotten silent over the years. Even in galwan 2020, the Mobilization happened on a large scale. Yet, there was extremely limited media coverage. No flashy crowd waving or tanks going on trains. Same in case of Doklam.
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Yeah same thing I also wanted to add 2 lac plus troops were mobilised how many of us got to know , plus the whole time pak is trying to create a narrative that we have already avoided the element of surprise factor similarly pakistani cabinet ministers are giving nuclear threat they know what they are doing, they just want to involve international community in putting pressure on india to avoid any escalation.
 
deathmonger said:
Yeah, direct attack is stupid. Draw it out.

Keep the sword of war over them (shelling, planes flying, aircraft carriers) while doing lots of internal operations like Naxalite cleaning, removal of illegal immigrants etc which leftists etc will keep quiet on at this time. Build more dam infrastructure and diversions while funding BLA, TTP to carry out attacks.

Keep disinfo war happening so India can just deny everything regarding dams, BLA/TTP etc.

Maybe even fund PTI.
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Wtf are you guys saying.


Is it a fan that will keep hanging from the roof. Strike when you are ready. If you are preparing for something its ok. But if you are ready but hanging, you are stupid.
 
ArjunMK1A said:
You are talking about this region.
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Narowal bulge. Basically, PakArmy wants to cut the supply by annexing this area (Pathankot). It will cutdown the NH-44 (Srinagar-Kanyakumari) Highway, Upcoming Delhi-Katra Expressway. They tried it in every war.

On the other hand, we outright violate Lahore in this case. Also the bulge is 60 KM wide from PAK end and we can fire Pinaka for fun from all 3 ends. It is very suicidal at current scene.
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No, I'm talking about the one wholly within punjab, next to the Paki city of Kasur.
What you're talking is about the Jammu/HP/Punjab one, but good to know i now know what it's called.
 
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