Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

I don't know about other folks but in WhatsApp groups, i have already started receiving messages which may be linked to BJP IT cell calling how pahalgam is a bigger conspiracy and why modi government should avoid any war.
These guys have already pitched for saving maulana's incompetence.
 
hit&run said:
Those who criticised were right in their scepticism. Indian had never preempted Pakistan before that. The pressure was required to move that inertia.
What followed the strikes showed that Modi had no liver to follow that up. Inversely, Post strikes, we did not criticise him either. We saw it as at least the gears are engaged for future expeditions.

This time, things are different we can see the Balakot Strikes gave us momentum and also a reality check. We should now be better prepared and physiologically more switched on.

However, there are a few developments post the Caste census news, which have their implications on this standoff.
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in that case, allow me to complicate the scenario (hypothetically) even further.

the main story is the onslaught on naxals that is going on right now, everything else is a side show. pahalgam massacre came out of syllabus. if pahalgam massacre did not happen, caste census story would have over shadowed naxal story.

Battle of Karregutta Hills: 24,000 jawans closing in on 1,000 Naxals in biggest-ever operation​

https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/in...s-in-biggest-ever-operation-2025-04-29-987829

Kouraguttagaru Hills, once a stronghold of Naxalites, today the #CRPF jawans, along with their special Cobra Commando unit, hoisted the tricolor there.


View: https://x.com/journo_jitendra/status/1917760106185282028
 
ezsasa said:
in that case, allow me to complicate the scenario (hypothetically) even further.

the main story is the onslaught on naxals that is going on right now, everything else is a side show. pahalgam massacre came out of syllabus. if pahalgam massacre did not happen, caste census story would have over shadowed naxal story.

Battle of Karregutta Hills: 24,000 jawans closing in on 1,000 Naxals in biggest-ever operation​

https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/in...s-in-biggest-ever-operation-2025-04-29-987829

Kouraguttagaru Hills, once a stronghold of Naxalites, today the #CRPF jawans, along with their special Cobra Commando unit, hoisted the tricolor there.


View: https://x.com/journo_jitendra/status/1917760106185282028
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No BJP abuser will ever pick up on how BJP is eradicating naxals.
It does not suit their narrative.

Even worse, the same people who abuse BJP rarely utter a word on parties who even as we speak are protecting naxals.
 
Prasad said:
You mean the same IG that shat and pissed on the hard earned victory by the military?

We all know what happened after we won the war.
1. She gave the land back which we won on western front
2. She gave 93000 POW back without getting any of ours in return. They were also treated like mehman by IG
3. IG also gave the Paki POW money equivalent to their salaries. yeah, she paid Paki soldiers for being our POW
4. During Eid, IG flew families of POW's on tax payers expense so that the POW families can celebrate Eid together, how lovely.
5. Let's not forget the Shimla agreement where she practically bent down as if we lost the war to Pakis.

It's hilarious how IG lost the war the military had won is even revered.

Who the F would give land and POW back without getting any of our land back in J&K and our POW's??

Well, that's IG, the supposed one with balls..
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She still went all in and cut off Pakistan's eastern wing. A nuclear Pakistan with an eastern wing would have been a nightmare to India for all times.. Whatever her dealmaking deficiencies, she presided over Independent India's biggest military victory..
Nothing before or since comes close..
 
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maximus777 said:
I respect the sentiment of Gen. GD Bakshi, but respectfully vishwaguru is no IG. I am not a fan of IG's policies and absolutely detest the Congress party. But IG for all her faults truly had balls of steel to stand up to the West and carve out BD. Mind you this was India of 1971 and not today. Our economy/military and general standing in the world was nowhere near where we are now. Also, not sure if today's generals are of Maneckshaw's caliber who put the PM and the political establishment in its place. Maybe we'll find out if we are lucky.
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East Pakistan was already babying for independence and strongly struggling for it. IG just provided an aid. Geopolitic environment at that time was completely different. USSR came to her rescue too.

We face much more harsher environment now.
 
ezsasa said:
in that case, allow me to complicate the scenario (hypothetically) even further.

the main story is the onslaught on naxals that is going on right now, everything else is a side show. pahalgam massacre came out of syllabus. if pahalgam massacre did not happen, caste census story would have over shadowed naxal story.

Battle of Karregutta Hills: 24,000 jawans closing in on 1,000 Naxals in biggest-ever operation​

https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/in...s-in-biggest-ever-operation-2025-04-29-987829

Kouraguttagaru Hills, once a stronghold of Naxalites, today the #CRPF jawans, along with their special Cobra Commando unit, hoisted the tricolor there.


View: https://x.com/journo_jitendra/status/1917760106185282028
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OT but Hidma & his top honchos, unfortunately, escaped to .....well....Telengana.

Darbari leadership met "Progressive International" leaders & now Telengana government is refusing to cooperate.
 
Ajayant Tripathi said:
East Pakistan was already babying for independence and strongly struggling for it. IG just provided an aid. Geopolitic environment at that time was completely different. USSR came to her rescue too.

We face much more harsher environment now.
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I wonder what motivates you to simplify history as such. Regardless my complete disagreement with her brand of politics, she did fight with a lot of risk, at the helm of a newly liberated nation. It is not as simple as you put it.
 
ezsasa said:
in that case, allow me to complicate the scenario (hypothetically) even further.

the main story is the onslaught on naxals that is going on right now, everything else is a side show. pahalgam massacre came out of syllabus. if pahalgam massacre did not happen, caste census story would have over shadowed naxal story.

Battle of Karregutta Hills: 24,000 jawans closing in on 1,000 Naxals in biggest-ever operation​

https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/in...s-in-biggest-ever-operation-2025-04-29-987829

Kouraguttagaru Hills, once a stronghold of Naxalites, today the #CRPF jawans, along with their special Cobra Commando unit, hoisted the tricolor there.


View: https://x.com/journo_jitendra/status/1917760106185282028
Click to expand...

India has so many internal issues that they overshadow everything.
Before fighting wars internal issues are needed to be sorted out.
Nothing will happen between India & Pakistan. It's better to focus on the economy & inner stability.
Kicking out Bangladeshis, fencing the border, wiping off Naxals, making anti nationals irrelevant these things should be our first priority.
25% Pakistan's GDP depends on agriculture. Restricting water is the biggest strike India has pursued. Now invest heavily on proxies & cripple them. India doesn't need to do more than that.
 
Esteemed membraans are not convinced of kinetic response, but napakis sure are

tribune.com.pk

US steps in to ease tension amid India's unabated sabre-rattling | The Express Tribune

Secretary Rubio phones PM Shehbaz; Urges both countries to cooperate with each other
tribune.com.pk tribune.com.pk

Meanwhile

www.indiatoday.in

Pak's ISI chief gets key role amid tensions with India over Pahalgam attack

Amid escalating tensions between India and Pakistan over the Pahalgam terror attack, ISI chief Lt Gen Mohammad Asim Malik was appointed Pakistan's National Security Advisor.
www.indiatoday.in www.indiatoday.in
 
MasterChief said:
She still went all in and cut off Pakistan's eastern wing. A nuclear Pakistan with an eastern wing would have been a nightmare to India for all times.. Whatever her dealmaking deficiencies, she presided over Independent India's biggest military victory..
Nothing before or since comes close..
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Sure, that's one way to look at it.
but the way I look at it is that instead of 1 islamic country, we got 2 of them now.
Both are openly hostile.

If we indeed win the 1971 war, what exactly are our winnings? Did anyone ask that?
if anything IG snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
She could have done 100 things differently post 1971 win but she did not.

What is the point of saying we won 1971 war when we have no winnings to show for it?
Did we win back our land in J&K? No
Did we get back our pow's? No
Did we ensure hindus safety in Bangladesh? No

So, what exactly did we win in 1971? I know we won but just exactly what did we win in terms of tangibles?

The fact is, we saved Bangladesh muslims's asss in 1971 and now they are biting us in the asss. That's it, that's all we did in 1971.
We could have changed the border towards our east in 1971 to something more manageable as part of our winnings but we did not.

Like I said, we won the war but I really don't know what that means when we have nothing to show for it, we gave back every single POW of theirs.
You know who had our POW's and our land even after they lost the war? Pak
 
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