Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

[haldilal]

Ya'll all Paki YT channels banned.

 

[shade2]

Which is ironically what has happened ... wasn't IWT suspension an act of war for them? They hardly even mention it now and its been just a week.

Waise toh "Kashmir is our Juggler Wane" karte rehte hai, India has been fondling and fiddling with said jugular vein since independence, 4 jung shuru kiye, har gaye phir bhi Kaffir Hindustan has an Iron Grip on their jugular vein

I blast our Leaderji every other post, but the Fauji Foundation are bigger cvcks than him for all the false mard -e- momin dramas they do 24x7x365

Their cuckery is the reason why they go for these saste jihadi attacks with ((( plausible deniability ))) which accomplish nothing in the long term apart from causing heartburn and righeous anger for avg people like us.

 

[Miss Firing]

rubio has the experience of being in senate foreign relations committee for years, he knows how his senate colleagues will react.
hegeseth is new to politics at that level.

OT, American liberals call Hegeseth "Pentagon princess" because apparently, he likes to put on a lot of make up before any interview.

 

[TringTringMonster]

This is much better than Rubio's Reply.
I don't understand why Rubio's and Pete's replies are so different. One is asking for a immediate ceasefire and other saying we have the right to defend ourselves(which is a green signal )

They are influenced by their departmental ideologies. For all the talk about dismantling deep state and all that, the bureaucrats in DC still continue to run the things. Historically, State department has always been against India and favoured Pakis. While the Defense department has always favoured India and was against pakis.

 

[shade2]

This is much better than Rubio's Reply.
I don't understand why Rubio's and Pete's replies are so different. One is asking for a immediate ceasefire and other saying we have the right to defend ourselves(which is a green signal )

Rubio is experienced (((establishment))) politician
Hegseth is Trump-wafadar elevated to defense minister post.

Regardless green, red, yellow signal we must do what is best for our security

 

[GaudaNaresh]

then what was the drama of 2 indian pilots to a single capture, did they thought they shot a sukhoi??

The '2' they mentioned were 1 Indian ( abhinandan) + their PAF dude in F16.
That was the sleight of hand - 2 pilots DID go down- except one was paki one was indian, not 2 indian.
They tried to pass off their F-16 radar dot as our mirage 2000 dot.
They claim they shot down a MiG-21 and 'another mystery plane'.

 

[hit&run]

Why do we need to send a message to the Naxals and NE Rebels ? We are systematically choking them like a python. Their area of effect/influence has systematically shrunk by many-folds in the last 20 years.

First rule of engineering/real life : Dont try to fix what works.
We dont need to send any message to the Naxals and NE rebels via kashmir policy. We have already sent them the message that they will be systematically choked to death like a python squeezes its prey dead.

The difference between IRA/Israel-USA isnt that UK did randee-rona of how everything is normal. USA and israel do that too- they LITERALLY go on tv telling terrorsts have no impact, tourism same same.
The difference is, UK did nothing to go after the IRA.
USA/Israel does the whole 'everything naarmaal saar' and then goes and bombs the terrorists to bits.

We are refusing to fight Islam currently. At least directly. Because we do not have the power to do so.
No one fights islam directly except China. Because everyone else is missing one of two vital component to fight islam : ability to project economic + military power over islam ( west +China has this) AND the ability of the awaam to take losses if needed in a fight ( China has this, west does not).

As a result, ONLY China can make official state policy of 'islam is a mental illness, we need re-education camps for muslims' and open declare war against islam.

We cannot because we lack BOTH the capabilities currently. remember, fighting islam is a total war. and the overton window + economic power of hindus does not match for that policy yet.

The first rule of fighting is never to pick a fight you arent sure of winning. And we arent sure of winning this one yet.

I can see the problem here is the lens.
You must shift your lens from a flawed secular constitutional democracy as a permanent framework to address these conflicts, to relentlessly ambushing or awaiting the perfect moment, to seizing the opportunity for a Hindu Rashtra or at least Hindu hegemony through political consolidation (my lens).

The one piece of this puzzle (that only has two more missing pieces) has already been placed, which is political consolidation. Modi is now the third-time PM. This also addresses the Hindu disunity argument of @ezsasa .

He was expected to move in that direction and start piling the foundations in every sphere of governance, like education, temples, and internal security.

I’ve consistently argued since DFI days that the BJP’s brand hinges on Hindutva.

Alarmingly, turncoats now claim their victories owe nothing to Hindu mobilisation.

Congress-I keeps resurfacing because it sows conflicts nationwide, reigniting them in power and stoking them in opposition. These are Sonia Gandhi’s insurance policies.

When the BJP mimics Congress’s conflict-management framework, it erases its distinctiveness, fueling anti-incumbency.

The BJP cannot afford to play Congress’s game. Managing conflicts on their terms kills its brand. Boasting about ending legacies like Article 370 is hollow when Kashmiriyat and old patterns persist.

Instead of frontal attacks on Islam, delegitimise it comprehensively while reacting fiercely to any aggression, ensuring Hindu dominance through strategic governance is the key here.

 

[ashes]

then what was the drama of 2 indian pilots to a single capture, did they thought they shot a sukhoi??

originally , two aircrafts were downed as confirmed by porki general, but the problem arised when our officer was captured by them. secondly, as the battle took in pok, pakistan had full control and tempered with evidence. f 16 was downed , but pilot died and debris was removed. Daddy sam came helping as their asses cant take the fact that an f 16 was downed by mig 21 , similar to what happened in case of f117. There i

 

[daya]

F16 was downed but saved.
I believe a USAF technician got a recommend from their services for 'saving a F16' and this chap was posted in Pakistan. Thats all one needs to know what the truth is : we shot down a F16, it didnt suffer a critical hit, it was salvaged.
The end.

Itne upar se girne par F-16 ho ya koi aur plane, usme salvage layak kuchh nahi bachta.. aur jab pilot ne eject kiya iska seedha matlab hai ki plane runway par to nahi utara hoga...

 

[MasterChief]

So it's not a green signal as it may seem

No one will give us a green signal to attack another country.. come on..
We expect understanding.. that's all..

 

[haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars ask some to say coca cola and you will spot a Banglu.


View: https://x.com/AgentSaffron/status/1917621491585409418

 

[Rango]

Comments from Paki forum:

Peak foreign mountain climber tourism season in Pak runs from May-August. It is really the only kind of tourism these blasphemy accusing violent rapist fools get.

Per below new article, 25,000 foreign tourists visited Gilgit-Baltistan last year. Now they are cancelling en masse during peak season. Already, 10s of millions of USD losses:

As India-Pakistan tensions heat up, Gilgit-Baltistan tour operators see their earnings evaporate

According to an official's estimate, each tour operator lost thousands of dollars in earnings due to fears of an escalation between the two neighbours.

www.dawn.com

Also, constant fear in the neighborhood:

Children learn emergency drills as Kashmir tensions rise

In Muzaffarabad, training sessions have already taken place in 13 schools, according to emergency workers.

www.dawn.com

 

[jaishrikrishna]

US secretary of defence Pete Hegseth said that the U.S. stands in solidarity with India and supports India’s right to "defend itself"*.

*Defensive offense receives green light.

When would we come out of this mindset of getting approvals from other countries. We splitted Pak into two even when US was fully supporting Porkistan at that time

 

[Decahex]

View: https://x.com/Conflict_Radar/status/1917895354256605192

Lessgo boys, just few hours left

Here us Indians are shitting all over Modi for being a cuck and backing down with many members of this forum borderline OD'ing on blackpills while Pakis are literally shitting themselves everyday expecting an attack. Honestly, I think the actual attack may take place at a much later date with which our men are comfortable and confident of achieving success but the top brass may be handing over false info to random middle and lower ranked officers to trace informants to Pakis and cleansing the armed forces of traitors. They went from imminent attack on 24th or 25th to up until yesterday proclaiming that India would invade in 24 to 36 hours (which did not happen) and now it's a few hours.

 

[shade2]

Here us Indians are shitting all over Modi for being a cuck and backing down with many members of this forum borderline OD'ing on blackpills while Pakis are literally shitting themselves everyday expecting an attack. Honestly, I think the actual attack may take place at a much later date with which our men are comfortable and confident of achieving success but the top brass may be handing over false info to random middle and lower ranked officers to trace informants to Pakis and cleansing the armed forces of traitors. They went from imminent attack on 24th or 25th to up until yesterday proclaiming that India would invade in 24 to 36 hours (which did not happen) and now it's a few hours.

Very good if this is true, the cost of maintaining readiness, patrols, missile tests etc cost money and fuel, which they cannot afford at a level we can because of their kangali.

It is better to tire them out like this, let them get complacent and then randomly attack, but as i've always said, wait too long and there is no public pressure to retaliate, no pressure, no retaliation

 

[Guynxdor]

View: https://x.com/conflictmoniter/status/1917940927907418146?s=46&t=s5Zjz3wgeVF4a5zNfD4EYA

 

[GaudaNaresh]

I can see the problem here is the lens.
You must shift your lens from a flawed secular constitutional democracy as a permanent framework to address these conflicts, to relentlessly ambushing or awaiting the perfect moment, to seizing the opportunity for a Hindu Rashtra or at least Hindu hegemony through political consolidation (my lens).

The one piece of this puzzle (that only has two more missing pieces) has already been placed, which is political consolidation. Modi is now the third-time PM.

He was expected to move in that direction and start piling the foundations in every sphere of governance, like education, temples, and internal security.

I’ve consistently argued since DFI days that the BJP’s brand hinges on Hindutva.

Alarmingly, turncoats now claim their victories owe nothing to Hindu mobilisation.

Congress-I keeps resurfacing because it sows conflicts nationwide, reigniting them in power and stoking them in opposition. These are Sonia Gandhi’s insurance policies.

When the BJP mimics Congress’s conflict-management framework, it erases its distinctiveness, fueling anti-incumbency.

The BJP cannot afford to play Congress’s game. Managing conflicts on their terms kills its brand. Boasting about ending legacies like Article 370 is hollow when Kashmiriyat and old patterns persist.

Instead of frontal attacks on Islam, delegitimise it comprehensively while reacting fiercely to any aggression, ensuring Hindu dominance through strategic governance is the key here.

Bro, the education and internal security part are happening quietly.
Lets look at objective facts :
NCERT deleted 75% of the chapter material on Mughals. Now, Mughals get the same treatment as Vijayanagar in the 90s school books : 1 chapter of 5 pages. the end. How is that not fixing education ??

As for internal security, lets look at objective facts : India is the MOST internally secure its ever been since independence: under Modi, area of effective control of maoists has shrunk by 80%, Islamic terrorism has been contained to Kashmir only - no more spillover in hindu heartland.

So how is that not systematic progress of exactly what you ask ?? You cannot have a Hitler-like burn all books and del *.* the entire education system and make new one in a democracy.
Gotta work within the system you got.

We are not capable of frontal attack on islam. Because reality is, 1 out of 5 muslim men everywhere are willing to die or islam if they percieve islam is under threat. PERIOD.
This means, to fight islam, you *MUST* have the economic-political ecosystem to exploit Islam's structural weaknesses - such as infighting and fratricide - *WHILE* you have the awaam willingness to suffer the terrorism blowback that will come if you declare war on Islam.

And as objective evidence shows, ONLY ONE COUNTRY ON THE PLANET has declared war on islam - china. because China is the ONLY country that satisfies both the criteria to fight islam - ability of masses to absorb islamic terrorism AND having the political+economic ecosystem to structurally attack islam.

Every single country on the planet lacks either one of the two essential components to fight islam or both.
And until you HAVE this capability, its foolish to declare war against islam - its a war you wont win without the two above factors being present and definition of foolish is starting a war you arent reasonably certain you can win.

Modi's work is to destabilize the 70 year old liberal ecosystem. Which he has to a great degree- now we have several Hinduvta or openly pro-hindu news drivers and think tanks blossoming tanks to Modi.

If you expect the first hinduvta guy to come in and declare war against Islam after we suffer 70 years of systematic muslim tolerance and propaganda in the ecosystem, then that hinduvta is a fool like Jamie Lannister - rash and more interested in badlaa even when it makes shit worse.

What i expect is Modi to be the Dadabhai Naoroji of hinduvta politics - sow the seeds of anti-islam in the political-ecosystem, just like Naoroji sowed the seeds of the IDEA of independence.
he watered that plant for many years, till it grew up to the FIRST main independence movement stalwarts - the Lal-Bal-Pal trio.

The time to fight islam, if everything goes well according to plan, for hinduvta, is not earlier than 2040.
because that is the time needed to reach the China level in terms of economic power + shift the cultural overton window for fighting Islam.

A clear tell for how ready India is to fight Islam, is Indian attitude towards Abhinandan vs Israeli attitude towards their 1000+ hostages : Indian mentality is "STAHP !! WE NEED TO STAHP TO BRING OUR SON BACK HOME'. Israeli mentality is 'those hostages are aleady dead, lets act like they are dead and go for straight payback'.

So Modi is no fool, he wont placate the 5000 parashuraam type hinduvta and lose the backing of the rest 99% hindus who are pussies.
And neither should he, because his job is to shift the overton window and be a Naoroji, not a Netaji Bose.
There is no Netaji bose in 1870. Why ?? because Netaji Bose is product of the plant that Naoroji planted, when that plant grew and bore fruit.
Such a plant didnt exist in mature form in 1870, same way as the overton window to fight islam doesnt exist in India today.
Create the window and learn from thy enemy.

Our goal is long term win. Not short term win. And in this, learn from history and learn from muslims - they made initial forays into India to try and conquer the idolator in 750 AD.
Got their asses kicked hard and never tried again till 970s. Why ? Coz the period in between, Gurjara-Pratiharas ruled western Indian subcontinent and moozie knew, fighting pratiharas is death.
So moozie waited 200 years till pratiharas collapsed and AS SOON AS they collapsed, moozie genocides began.
We too need the same kind of patience to create the window of opportunity suitable for us.
Because one thing is clear - fighting islam is the most serious fight one can undertake - its a fight where once the fight directly starts, there is no draw, there is no tactical win. you either win or you die.

 

[hit&run]

From punishing Pakistan, they have now reduced it to punishing each terrorist.

 

[jazzy_b]

View: https://x.com/clashreport/status/1917939625256980898
Good decision, imagine getting pounded by Indian airforce, and pakistani FM's banging "Tunak Tunak"

 

[samsaptaka]

Pension set for life and will marry another chutiya in 2-3 years.

Of course Lady wants to move on.

Pension of Dead soldiers must ideally go to parents.

This is the level of houthiyas we have amongst us 'hindus', zero shatrubodh, that too husband is a naval officer ! No wonder we are fkd, hindu rashtra will never happen with such sellouts and weak minds. Peace peace shanti. Fk it

So what should she say give me blood of Muslim on live tv in front of the whole Nation just like that?

She should say local Kashmiris are involved and Muslim terrorist killed her husband and if they are not beheaded I will send my bangles to maulana...that crpf jawans wife during pulwama, that was based ! not this RR peace shit nonsense !