Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

[Magadha Naresh]

If we are not prepared then any attack will be folly and we might bog down into consequences which we haven't prepared for ,
Either you are ready to self destruct yourself or else you need to be smarts
When we are ready and enemy is weakened we can always use any pretext to attack.
Trust the government of the day for now.

You live in UK, why do these " wignats" support pakistan ?
Especially that lotus eater fellow.
On the flip side , you have paki supporters in the form of George Galloway , what's his deal ?

 

[Magadha Naresh]

@GaudaNaresh
Sir, your insight needed here .
Why do these wignats support pakistan over india , since yesterday seen many videos of them either mocking india , or supporting porkies .

 

[TringTringMonster]

All madrasas & terror training centres were likely vacated on the morning of the Pehelgam attack much before it was perpetrated. Do you think Fauji Foundation are fools to repeat the same mistake twice after Balakot ?

This is the reason I've remarked earlier that there is no terror infrastructure you can target for the people have long gone underground only the buildings remain .

Modi could've chosen to bomb them this time with full tv footage resulting in total destruction of these structures likely with not many people inside & most guys here advocating immediate action would've gone orgasmic & creamed their pants. Yet he didn't .

You're likely not going to see Azhar & Hapig Saeed for a long time in public if at all.

Whom else do you target then? I suggested the puppet masters. To reiterate , destroy they war machinery by targeting capital assets of the PN & PAF but not the PA without attacking their bases , drawing the latter into an air war & killing the PN on the high seas.

This way you set those armed forces back decades & given the current economic situation they don't have the resources to replace them likely forever. Not only would they think 10 times before planning the next terrorist attack they'd be virtually devoid of any major air & naval cover then .

Easier said than done , I know. But with the right planning , tactics & a bit of luck it's doable.

Once you've inflicted significant damage call for a unilateral CF. Then over a period of time graduate your attacks across the LoC from small arms fire & mortars to artillery . Intensify them to the point that nothing within 50 kms of the LoC is standing & do it for a substantial period of time , say like a year or more.

When you've tied down a significant portion of Fauji Foundation this way that leaves the TTP , the Balochi Sarmachars & other groups of freedom fighters to have a free run of the rest of the country. Increase support to these forces thru Afghanistan.

All this requires extensive planning not the wham bam thank you ma'am quickies tik tok generation is fantasizing about.

Why not retaliating against their div hq that's usually essential in pushing these terrorists? The pak army's forward bases containing higher ranking officers needs to be blown up within hours of the attack. So I don't think they are gonna follow Rawalpindi directives if they are the ones paying the price.

Pak as usual will retaliate. But hey, now we have control over the escalation. Let pak cry infront of diplomats for descalation.

Salami slicing the LoC also works btw.

 

[Azaad]

Why not retaliating against their div hq that's usually essential in pushing these terrorists? The pak army's forward bases containing higher ranking officers needs to be blown up within hours of the attack. So I don't think they are gonna follow Rawalpindi directives if they are the ones paying the price.

Pak as usual will retaliate. But hey, now we have control over the escalation. Let pak cry infront of diplomats for descalation.

Salami slicing the LoC also works btw.

No. If you target the other arms of the Paxtani state & leave PA relatively intact the incentive to keep the retaliation cycle going & escalation goes down. This is important if we don't want to get sucked into a full blown war.

Once a CF is established , launch your usual across the LoC but intensify it rapidly doing exactly what I suggested in my previous post.

This way you damage them too only slowly as opposed to in one or a few strikes as you did with their Navy & Air Force.

The various tanzeems battling the PA across Paxtan do the rest.

 

[daya]

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Simply police. They know but take action as per their own sweet will. They also know how to deal in each situation.

 

[deathmonger]

You live in UK, why do these " wignats" support pakistan ?
Especially that lotus eater fellow.
On the flip side , you have paki supporters in the form of George Galloway , what's his deal ?

Galloway is MP of a huge Paki population that's why.

British Wignats are pro-Hindutva and have shown that on ground cause they hate Pakis too. And Brit Indians are very non-problematic compared to Brit Pakis who do grooming gangs etc.

Canadian/American/Australian Wignats might be anti-India due to jobs and Indian immigration. There is not much Paki immigration. So more of an enemy of my enemy thing rather than any love for Pakis. Again, not a bad thing because that means Pakis have no influence in these countries, especially the USA.

Don't worry about that. The conservative govt (Republicans) are very pro-India. Bush gave us the nuclear deal remember.

 

[haldilal]

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Ya'll Nibbiars 5th Cloumn.

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The amount of Aman ki Asha oozing out of this picture just gave me diarrhea. The rot goes so deep it'll take a massive tragedy for these people to even flinch.

 

[Mikel]

All madrasas & terror training centres were likely vacated on the morning of the Pehelgam attack much before it was perpetrated. Do you think Fauji Foundation are fools to repeat the same mistake twice after Balakot ?

This is the reason I've remarked earlier that there is no terror infrastructure you can target for the people have long gone underground only the buildings remain .

Modi could've chosen to bomb them this time with full tv footage resulting in total destruction of these structures likely with not many people inside & most guys here advocating immediate action would've gone orgasmic & creamed their pants. Yet he didn't .

You're likely not going to see Azhar & Hapig Saeed for a long time in public if at all.

Whom else do you target then? I suggested the puppet masters. To reiterate , destroy they war machinery by targeting capital assets of the PN & PAF but not the PA without attacking their bases , drawing the latter into an air war & killing the PN on the high seas.

This way you set those armed forces back decades & given the current economic situation they don't have the resources to replace them likely forever. Not only would they think 10 times before planning the next terrorist attack they'd be virtually devoid of any major air & naval cover then .

Easier said than done , I know. But with the right planning , tactics & a bit of luck it's doable.

Once you've inflicted significant damage call for a unilateral CF. Then over a period of time graduate your attacks across the LoC from small arms fire & mortars to artillery . Intensify them to the point that nothing within 50 kms of the LoC is standing & do it for a substantial period of time , say like a year or more.

When you've tied down a significant portion of Fauji Foundation this way that leaves the TTP , the Balochi Sarmachars & other groups of freedom fighters to have a free run of the rest of the country. Increase support to these forces thru Afghanistan.

All this requires extensive planning not the wham bam thank you ma'am quickies tik tok generation is fantasizing about.

Haven't called for wham bam thank you maam tactics at all. Even in this thread I've mentioned that our response must be multi-pronged and sustained over a period of time. What you are not taking into account is the international pressure tactics from Uncle Sam and others. The longer you wait, the harder clamp down is going to be.

 

[deathmonger]

What will China Do in case IA puts PAK on hook? It seems IA is looking to keep border HOT for long term.
There may be salami slicing in parts of POK slowly and steadily. We may see few Missiles attacks on GHQ as well. Gn.Munir is target. GOV and IA probably have concluded that we have keep PAK engaged in war every now or then to maintain peace in side. For every attack in side , to be paid by devastating attack on Military installations of PAK.

My worry is not this. Worry is 0.5 front which is difficult to tackle. We are not in street fighting mindset and all have to depend on police and CRPF to stop this menace. That's problem.

I guess this Cast Based survey is diversion tactic to implement census in form of NRC to get data required to identify the outsiders , so that process can we put in deport them.

Keep the border hot, bankrupt them, do internal cleaning and use BLA/TTP/unknow gunmen to cause havoc.

 

[deathmonger]

Haven't called for wham bam thank you maam tactics at all. Even in this thread I've mentioned that our response must be multi-pronged and sustained over a period of time. What you are not taking into account is the international pressure tactics from Uncle Sam and others. The longer you wait, the harder clamp down is going to be.

Uncle Sam and others won't mind a smaller response.

USA wants India on their side. This partnership defines this century.

China's growth is slowing down. It MIGHT never surpass USA. But it WILL never surpass USA+India EVER.

So makes sense for India and USA to be allied. Buy the latter half of the century, India will become the senior partner compared to USA.

 

[Azaad]

Haven't called for wham bam thank you maam tactics at all.

Didn't refer to you at all. Was pretty clear in what I wrote that this was aimed at people seeking instant action or gratification.

Even in this thread I've mentioned that our response must be multi-pronged and sustained over a period of time. What you are not taking into account is the international pressure tactics from Uncle Sam and others. The longer you wait, the harder clamp down is going to be.

What I'm suggesting is a high tempo operation requiring a few days or maybe a week at the most . Anything more than that & we're close to a war.

 

[Samaritan]

I will say something which most people may not agree with but India's Military Industrial Complex won't be ready until 2035 for any action of this sort.

GoI seems to be aware of this and will probably not escalate this tension much. It is in our long term interest to wait this one and strike through other means.

Army

• Arjun MK1A (118) : Delivery complete by 2030-2033
• T 90M/ Bhishma MK3 (454) : Delivery complete by 2030
• ATAGS (307) : Delivery complete by 2030
• TGS (400) : Delivery only by 2030+
• MGS (800) : Delivery only by 2030+
• TMH 105 (200) : Delivery only by 2030+
• K9 (Batch II) : Delivery complete by 2027-2030
• K9 (Batch III) : Delivery complete by 2030+
• FICV : Delivery only by 2030+
• FMBT : Delivery only between 2030-2035+

Airforce

• Tejas MK1A (83+97) : Delivery complete by 2031-32
• Tejas MK2 (120 ?) : Delivery of 60%+ only by 2035
• Rafale F4 (40) OR F 35A (extremely unlikely) (40) : Delivery only by 2030+
• Su 30 MKI (12) : Delivery only by 2027-2030
• AMCA (40+ ?) : Delivery only by 2034
• Netra MK1A : Delivery only by 2030+
• Netra MK2 : Delivery only between 2030-2035
• Refueling Tanker : Delivery only by 2030+

Navy

The below table with approximations for ship commissioning shows that in the years 2033-2034, there may be no significant warship inductions (excluding submarines).

Commissioning Year/Ship Class	Ship Type	2024	2025	2026	2027	2028	2029	2030	2031	2032	2033	2034	2035	2036	2037	2038	2039	2040
Vishakhapatnam Class	Destroyer		1
Talwar Class (Batch III)	Frigate	1	1	1	1
Nilgiri Class	Frigate		2	2	2	1
P 17B Class	Frigate							2	3	2
NGMV	Corvette				1	2	2	1
NGC	Corvette						1	2	3	2
NGOPV	OPV					1	2	2	3	3
P 18A/B	Destroyer												1	2	2	3	2
Total	(-)	1	4	3	4	3	3	5	6	4	0	0	1	2	2	3

War will not come asking your permission ! You are ready or not its not a question.
What PAK has with them , but they keep India bleeding ! its intent that matters in my view.
Some where i remember , war's are not fought with weapons but with will to crush enemy!

 

[samsaptaka]

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Let me play the devil's advocate, jooz could and can immediately do airshtrike cos them Palestinians don't have airforce or AD systems do they? Case is different here no ?
Let's wait and see....hope we don't keep waiting....I have my doubts on maulana like all of you we are all in the same damned boat brother

 

[samsaptaka]

On flip side, we see a lady who lost her husband with full clarity.


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Its pretty simple, your basedeness is directly proportional to how much of our itihasas, puranas, shlokas etc...you have imbibed or been forced to imbibe (parents play a damned imp role here) at home. Cos outside its jusy leftist cabal, xtian english education, libtard congi history etc....I can bet my bollocks that libtard bi**h of a wife of that late naval officer has only english 'education ' in her head, xtian western culture & what not and can't recite even the basic shloka or hanuman chalisa

 

[Brood Father]

You live in UK, why do these " wignats" support pakistan ?
Especially that lotus eater fellow.
On the flip side , you have paki supporters in the form of George Galloway , what's his deal ?

Maybe online they want to cash in on this new anti India/Hindu bandwagon in Twitter but offline they don't care about India and Pakistan , we give them too much importance.

 

[Brood Father]

I would argue members not to demean the wife of the naval officer , she is entitled of her views (whatever they may be) and she has lost someone close to her (whatever their relationship maybe)
This is nothing but distraction and would make us look bad for a neutral audience , leave her be .Lord Shiv will decide her fate..

 

[Numero]

 

[Brood Father]

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We should debate on the reason what is the functionality of courts and what isn't given that they are poking everywhere these days

 

[samsaptaka]

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We Bharatiyas are a fkng joke I tell you, our own PM is not naming porkland, and we expect white master to speak for us ? No wonder no other country respects us