Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

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Long post but read to understand why british and deepstate created east and west pakistan during independence. This will help you understand current circumstances and what Modi and Even trump are fighting

First Part

, [May 4, 2025 at 5:40 AM]
Here is what would have happened in the sequence -
(1) The attack by Munir on hindus has a tacit approval from massa (don't call it as rouge deepstate and Trump is not involved etc.). **Here the goal of west is India's 7T destiny needs to move from 2030 to 2040.**

(2) All it needs is India getting bruised and stop it's several kissan samman nidhis, laadli-behnaa-yojnaas. That way next elections Mudi loses and favorable and manageable Rahul G kichiri government forms.

(3) India know that but also it has to solve Pakistan problem without getting bruised.

(4) The western war gaming (yes it happened since 2016) had several paths but they all missed two elements Indus IWT and stopping transshipments

(5) Now the west has to redo their wargames. That's when the restraint talk started. Did they say restrain on the first few days. NO. Why now?

Because of IWT and transshipments ban, the west has to change tactics. They need to ensure some form of dirty nuke to be hitting India. Hence British special forces, US's ex-marines and ex-navyseals are all over Pakistan.

The talk of grave n war started after India changed the strategy

Few other notes:
(1) Kabila theory of Pakis that was shown a decade ago.
What is kabila
It is a mil outpost to keep Bharat in check by British empire

(2) Pakistan is NOT created for Muslims of Indian subcontinent. It's created for helping the west (that was leaving India in the so called fart named 1947 independence)

(3) If Pakistan is created to serve west, what does it matter if it is one nation or four nations? As long as that part serves it's mission then its a success. In that pursuit, the central asia to India link is not more a big deal as new power is China and not Russia. **If India is bruised and in western control it's enough.**

(4) Hence the elite of Pak was told just do it and was told, you never ever bothered about Pak nationalism or Pakis. Your families and wealth are safe as long as you attack India and bruise it.

Second part

even today Pak is only there to server the west. What and how changes as time and situations change.

(1) West (primarily UK and duly guided by US post WW2) started considering India's independence at the end of WW1 - 1919

(2) Quite an uneasy time to just leave India with independence with out a check.

Concept of Pakistan came so that India will have a check.

Its sole purpose is to thwart USSR and other Asian nations trade routes into Arabian sea and Bay-of-Bengal via India.

(3) Initially only Western Pakistan was considered.

(4) Later East Pakistan was added as distance from India's border to Bay of Bengal was short and there is no check.

UK don't know at that point on how Tibet and Burma will behave with new India. What if USSR finds way into Tibet from Tajik into India? Also understand North East was fragile. Sikkim was still independent until 1972. Something Sino-US had leverages against USSR in this corridor

(5) From 1934 to 1941 Xinjiang, a Province of the Republic of China, was under the influence of the Soviet Union. If this was firmly with Soviets, the British (as said earlier US and British were same on Asian geopolitics) would still have thought of not giving independence to India.

They A soviet trade line into Indian ocean between Malakka straights and Middle east is a big no-no.

(6) India and Pakistan are granted Independence - 1947

(7) Remember Law of the Sea (UNCLOS I) that determines maritime boundaries happened way later than rejigging Indian subcontinent's independence in 1956.

This is the key driver of events that occurred post independence using the loose leadership that led India's independence and also early leaders of post independent India (useless called Gandhi and Nehru)

(8) West Pakistan creation was found insufficient to stop the new power USSR. Tajik and Uzbek which were part of USSR are direct into Kashmir. Only consolation was Xinjiang was no more in USSR.
Soviet Union after 1945 was grabbing every country in Europe and Asia and entering south towards Indian Ocean
This alarmed the Anglo American power

Also understand China was unstable with massive civil war and zillions of causalities as revolution is ending the warlords and kingdoms.

(9) Until 1949 November India still had Sir Claude Auchinleck as India Army chief to ensure proper sealing of India from Soviet Union. The Pak Occupied Kashmir is secondary in the scheme of things but the real catch is Gigit/Baltistan portions Ladakh (also called as Northern Territories) that are directly bordering Tajikistan (then USSR) not having access to rest of India. That was ensured using Tribal invasion into being part of India.

(10) Though this much mayhem was ensured, they are unsure of western handle as they know the power of Indian armed forces and how they fought in WW2. Though land borders are sealed from Soviets with not much guarantee, they haven't ensured the seas being sealed. Hence the British India Naval chief existed as Indian Navy chief until freak-in 1958. (Vice-Admiral Sir Stephen Hope Carlill was the last British Chief of Naval Staff of the Indian Navy, serving from 1955 to 1958.)

(11) Now lets see what is attempted and what's successful and what's not successful on the seas side of sealing India's options. Again reminding you the marine borders regime only started really after UNCLOS I in 1956. Until that is firmed up, India's Navy chief was British even after India became republic. Isn't it lovely to connect the dots.

Third part

(12) In 1951 Tibet is no more independent. Just like Xinjiang, it was annexed by PRC. Some relief for west as another layer between USSR and India ocean formed.
PRC was encouraged by British empire to annex Tibet so that Soviet Union would not take it and become a threat to British empire - GREAT GAME

(13) The attempt of US and British was to ensure Goa a west coastal city does not belong to India. That will help maritime boundaries of Arabian sea having a friendly Portuguese nation's boundary.

(14) Ensure Maldieves kingdom becomes not part of India but some independent nation. Chagos islands are extremely important to be not given away. Diego Garcia base emerged from here.

(15) Also Lakswadweep islands must be split between India and Pakistan. A lot of you may not be aware that in 1956, Minicoy Island held a referendum to decide whether to join the Indian Union or Pakistan. Here they voted to join India. Otherwise the Arabian sea maritime boundary would be split between India, Portugal and Pakistan. Entire coast from Karachi to Minicoy Island (the last island of Lakshwadeep).

(16) Remember also Bangladesh was East Pakistan. Means Bay of Bengal will also have Maritime boundary between India, Pakistan and Burma. All these before 1958. Anything that belongs to Pakistan is basically belonging to United States Navy.

(17) Imagine a line in the sea around India from Karachi to Chittagong via Minicoy as belonging to Pakistan. That was the original plot.

(18) The plot did not work as Minicoy became India in 1956. British were not able to split Arabian sea between India and Pakistan until Indian ocean. Finally in 1958 British left Indian Navy to India.

(19) But India also ensured in 1961 Goa becomes part of India.

(20) As the boardroom see the instable Pakistan and not really sure of how long the state will remain, the Gilgit Baltistan (GB) may after all be annexed by India.

Hence clandestinely USA worked with China to get it Aksai Chin. Even Shaksgam valley was gifted by Pak to China. Why? Without Aksai Chin GB won't survive. Without GB Aksai Chin won't survive. One in Pak and one in India is impossible. Hence both are ensured to be with US friends/buddies of that era (Pak and China). It was US that used their influence on Nehru to not use Air Force.

Also recent threat in 2020 the paq forces were focused on helping PLA in aksai chin and boosted POJK GB
These are from playbook given by west to both countries

(21) They thought they ensured everything, but however 1971 Bangladesh is created.

(22) But the saga of the itch of not having base inside Bay of Bengal after Pak's loss is perineal. Using the grand great Indo-US democracies based strategic relations they created a useless crap called QUAD.

The whole purpose was to say we will give you India a headquarters and let's have that in Andaman. India said tooooch!!. Go to Guam and have it there. Meanwhile India has seen the sinister plot and expanded it's presence all over Indian ocean.

(23) Sensing this the Biden admin created mayhem in Myanmar-Bangladesh-Manipur state of India.
And also showed interest in ST Martin island of BD

(24) The grand trusted relations between US and India will sure flourish. The trusted relations also includes quest for a base in Bay of Bengal and an Indian Zelensky (Sonia/Rahul etc.) to avenge 1962. In the process take India to stone age.

(25) JK terror attach happens.....

not the right thread to go into long history post, by the time this thread loses steam it would be about 1000 pages or more, and your post will get lost. copy and paste the text in some more appropriate thread.
 
Just saw a pakistani nationalist youtuber cracking Indian astrology and using past track records of Modi's main events using nakshtra to predict 10th may, 17th may, 4th June, 14th June as attack dates .

Ye kesa masterstroke h bc
 

View: https://x.com/dgprPaknavy/status/1919429413638115369

Is this considered as an achievement in Pakistan ?


paxtan navy distressed by the presence of P8i encircling pak EEZ round the clock. P8i already tracked the surface vessels and would have sent the data to nearby ships and command centres

Ya all Tibbiar's... in case you don't know... below happened in 1999 just after Kargil war settled. Kargil war where Pakis LOST miserably, they didn't even take back hundreds of rotting bodies of their own Muslim Paki soldiers on Hindu land! :shocked:

Indian Army had to bury Muslim Paki soldiers :rip: on HINDU LAND and HAPPILY read Inne Ilahi rajun fajun ... so a denied Jannat as KAFIR read it. :pound: :pound: :pound:

16 Paki Soldiers cooked in air and this how you beat a shit of Pakis. The fun part is Mig-21 did it which Pakis ridicule a lot. Not to mention BJP was in power.

Paki were SCREWED and SHIT SCARED to even RETIALITE, forget about escalating! :roflb:


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Just saw a pakistani nationalist youtuber cracking Indian astrology and using past track records of Modi's main events using nakshtra to predict 10th may, 17th may, 4th June, 14th June as attack dates .

Ye kesa masterstroke h bc
Every body knows this, whatever imp step modi takes is either a reversal of that date or connection to the significance of that date
Also link pls
 

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