Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

Do you think a Military response going to happen?.


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Correct analysis but our leedors are too risk-averse to take the plunge.
Let alone take the plunge now, they are too cheap and foolish to even build up the armed forces' equipment with a generous defense budget overtime to have a overwhelming response to terror attacks like this
I understand and agree with your point; however, my primary focus is to begin venturing out and showcasing our capabilities. We are capable of sustaining long and costly expeditions. Let us take a measured step to develop a new logistical framework that ensures our forces are ready to act within 48 hours, with a clear objective that can be followed by proper mobilisation. This was the essence of the Cold Start Doctrine, which was overshadowed by its own hype. Perhaps a different name would have helped. Nomenclature matters.

Whether it was deploying boots on the ground in Afghanistan, enforcing our authority in southern Nepal, extending our operational reach in Burma to restore democracy, capturing Sri Lanka’s northern peninsula, or asserting influence in the Maldives, we have remained restrained.

The IPKF setback was not catastrophic, but our risk aversion and fear of negative press fundamentally altered our approach. What haunted us more was the involvement of a third party. Instead of learning from the experience and improving, we abandoned that doctrine entirely. In the U.S., they call it “body bag syndrome,” a term we’ve also adopted. Many do not know that this contributed to the assassination of our former Prime Minister, driven by misplaced guilt.


Most of our troubles in the neighbourhood stem from our predictability, as we are seen as unwilling to wield hard power.

This may indeed be a capability issue. Take the Kandahar hijacking: once the plane left our territory, we lacked the means to rescue the hostages. Post-Kandahar, we further erred by not debriefing passengers and shaping a narrative that supported our story. It is shameful that a nation victimised by Islamic terrorism was portrayed as the villain later on.

Analysts blame individuals, but the real fault lies with the government, which possesses vast resources but lacks the vision or resolve to pursue broader objectives; what I call the Hindu Rashtra Lens or Akhand Bharat Lens.

Be the constitutional democracy the way you want and keep bowing down to the constitution, but for god sake, have an ideological foundation in Akhand Bharat to guide your Hard Power.
 
Hope Mudi and the Armed forces are prepared for a Pakistani first strike as well.. and not just laughing their a** off thinking of scaring off Pakistan with meetings and opening and closing Dam gates... Pakistan has mobilized significant part of its Army to the border.. and might be tempted to answer Indian Dam related actions with a strike..

Hope India isn't caught with its pants down again after Pahalgam.. After all mobilization after being slapped like in Kargil, is a lot more costlier than being ready to block Pakistan's attack..
Correct.
If the war becomes inevitable, Pakistanis will attempt the first strike.
 
Yes.. only if you can absorb and deflect their strike.. India will need armour and artillery near the border for that.. Just some missile strikes won't stop them..

This leli leli.. Phat gaya re.. hila diya.. masturbation won't help..
War has changed over the years, no serious army posts pics and propoganda shorts of their deployment, that stuff is reserved for crackpot terrorist orgs and Militias like hezbollah and houthis.

An competent army can deploy 24/7, mobilisation itself is a archaic concept, your system need to be prepared 24/7. An attack or retaliation usually happens in waves, with each wave preparing ground for next one.

Highly publicized mobilisation is a very dumb move, it limits the range of your force because it makes them vulnerable to getting stuck, and getting into enemy's missile and artillery range.

During gulf war, US "mobilized" in waves too, first came reconnaissance mission, then they brought ADs and specops units convertly to counter a preemptive iraqi attack, after that they engaged in air war against iraqi, after then groud forces moved in.
 
i willl disagree with you on this one - pakistan is too volatile to be split into multiple parts. at least in our lifetime.
the only real way is, we take over PoK & tharparkar, balochistan becomes independent, khyber goes to afghanistan and we are left with sindpunjabistan.

further, the option of removing paki military is not very palatable to the indian military either - because if you remove paki military, you end up with a palestine that is 100x bigger. you cannot deal with restive jihadi population without doing shit tons of military deployment like israel- while jihadi palestine like places do not pose an invasion threat, they pose a far greater terrorism and infiltration threat, which requires even more manpower deployment. with real militaries you can minimize manpower deployment by equipment deployment - deploy 2 S-400 and 20 artilleries somewhere and enemy military is contained in terms of threat ladder. doing tht does jack shit against jihadi population - you need raw manpower of checkpost after checkpost.
Pakistan may be volatile as a whole but punjabi suba is not volatile. They are holding a territory that they can't effectively control. Thats why they are volatile. But punjabi suba will be very stable once its formed.

It all depends on our govt. action. Do we want to keep them stable or not. I believe we will. The max that even colonist punjabi empire will go is upto a war where they loose their navy and significant aerial assets as well as army. After that when truce is called the punjabi pig farmers will not be able to retake control back from balochs. They will struggle with sindh which i believe will also part ways. So, the punjabi farmers will be left with only their suba.

A war is a war and we don't know the extent to which other side is willing to go. Even pig farmers may not be aware about it.

All in all we are good. We will just accelerate their downfall.
 
For a community that pays so much taxes in USA there is very little representation. It is an ignorant fragmented community that is happy being at the bottom of the food chain politically and happy being ignorant about it
Absolutely disgusting professor, but the guy should have at least a few ready answers to this line of thinking whenever anyone uses it i.e that oppression of Moslems caused the massacre at Pahalgam. 1) Even if there is some oppression, how does that justify Pakistanis coming in and slaughtering Hindu males after checking their bodily features? 2) Do all oppressed groups the world over do this i.e do Hindus in Bangladesh and Pakistan commit terror strikes, to cite two very obvious proximate examples? 3) what would the standard response of any country including the US, be to such terror attacks, if they occur again and again, and in which the hand of a foreign country is evident 4) if this professor is so enthralled by Moslems, there are 50+ Moslem majority countries to lavish their fascination upon. Heck, the northern part of Kashmir under Pakistani administration is 100% Moslem, there is not a Hindu in sight in Mirpur, Muzzafarabad, Gilgit, Skardu et al, having been fully cleansed from those areas in 1947-48. There is no oppressive Indian army or Hindu majority, so it must be an absolute paradise on earth of everything we hold dear, freedom, pluralism, secularism 5) And what about the Kashmiri Hindus who were forced out of their land starting in 1990, after many were killed, they haven't so much as pelted a stone. 6) What is the professor's position on Darfur, Boko Haram, Afghanistan under the Taliban?

Indians/Hindus need to develop the quick wittedness and perspicacity to respond to specious comments by Indians and non-Indians alike.


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What's the point of civic defence? Are they expecting Porkies to reach populated areas?

Hindus did not develop any political power in India itself and you are expecting them to do it in alien country.

Atleast here we are divided by caste. What's the excuse abroad where you are the model community? Educated, pay taxes, no crimes.

They are really an invisible community politically clueless in every way about how politics work.they can fight among their own community but become sheep in the broader picture. Just look at India in the UN largest nation in the world and no UNSC. Legacy of colonialism and slavery from the past.
India only National that did not get UNSC being part of the ww2 victors.

We still haven't moved beyond the colonial salve mentality. Th BJP does little to correct education, which the key.
 
Absolutely disgusting professor, but the guy should have at least a few ready answers to this line of thinking whenever anyone uses it i.e that oppression of Moslems caused the massacre at Pahalgam. 1) Even if there is some oppression, how does that justify Pakistanis coming in and slaughtering Hindu males after checking their bodily features? 2) Do all oppressed groups the world over do this i.e do Hindus in Bangladesh and Pakistan commit terror strikes, to cite two very obvious proximate examples? 3) what would the standard response of any country including the US, be to such terror attacks, if they occur again and again, and in which the hand of a foreign country is evident 4) if this professor is so enthralled by Moslems, there are 50+ Moslem majority countries to lavish their fascination upon. Heck, the northern part of Kashmir under Pakistani administration is 100% Moslem, there is not a Hindu in sight in Mirpur, Muzzafarabad, Gilgit, Skardu et al, having been fully cleansed from those areas in 1947-48. There is no oppressive Indian army or Hindu majority, so it must be an absolute paradise on earth of everything we hold dear, freedom, pluralism, secularism 5) And what about the Kashmiri Hindus who were forced out of their land starting in 1990, after many were killed, they haven't so much as pelted a stone. 6) What is the professor's position on Darfur, Boko Haram, Afghanistan under the Taliban?

Indians/Hindus need to develop the quick wittedness and perspicacity to respond to specious comments by Indians and non-Indians alike.


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Iff a nation is not ready to sacrifice and shed blood when it has to their will be very little anyone can do to help that nation.
 
What's the point of civic defence? Are they expecting Porkies to reach populated areas?



Atleast here we are divided by caste. What's the excuse abroad where you are the model community? Educated, pay taxes, no crimes.



We still haven't moved beyond the colonial salve mentality. Th BJP does little to correct education, which the key.
I have noticed this after every terror attack , india looks for validation of others without even doing anything. It goes on the defensive in every situation.
 

This is getting way out of control. Now we are giving a platform to pakis to peddle their propaganda? That too from the top newspaper in India?

These fuckers need to be jailed.
 
I have noticed this after every terror attack , india looks for validation of others without even doing anything. It goes on the defensive in every situation.

Because it's drilled into each child through our education system that glorified anything foreign and degrades anything Indian.

It took me a long time to come out of it and I could only do it while living abroad.
 
Guys, what's happening on the western front of paxtan? I'm sure, Baloch and Pashtuna boys are playing well.
We are over estimating our influence in Afghanistan and Balochistan. Remember one thing. These people work for money. And if china planned Pahalgam, I'm sure china is paying them enough to keep India away. China has much more influence in Afghanistan than India.
 
Piglets have no balls for that.
Since the katna of 1971 they have stopped the pre-emptive strike meme, even Kargil was them trying to insert PA soldiers as freebund fighter jihadis in Thrashmir, it was not direct.

I roast our side for being cowards, but that doesn't mean the piglets are some chad qaum
Truly agree to your point paxtan lacks courage for a direct confrontation, but in a scenario if we preempt an air strike targetting on launchpads & we suppose down 2 or 3 F16s with no losses on our side it wud be a huge humiliation for the piglets. The radicalized pak army wud be left with no choice, they wud push the cannon fodder army to cross the border to level their lost ego. Its not the time to think whether the piglets have will or not, if we have to carry out first strike, 3 of the forces has to be prepared and deployed already.
 
Because it's drilled into each child through our education system that glorified anything foreign and degrades anything Indian.

It took me a long time to come out of it and I could only do it while living abroad.
When I give opinions lot of member probably cannot relate to it. But I want to give another perspective that is really needed especially for the next generation to break the slave colonial mentality of past generations
 
Hope Mudi and the Armed forces are prepared for a Pakistani first strike as well.. and not just laughing their a** off thinking of scaring off Pakistan with meetings and opening and closing Dam gates... Pakistan has mobilized significant part of its Army to the border.. and might be tempted to answer Indian Dam related actions with a strike..

Hope India isn't caught with its pants down again after Pahalgam.. After all mobilization after being slapped like in Kargil, is a lot more costlier than being ready to block Pakistan's attack..
I don’t think Pakistan has mobilized troops while the Indian military is sitting idle. These matters aren’t that simple. We don’t have any information about military deployments, nor do we have access to ground reports or knowledge of the Indian military’s strategy.
 
They just want to be good boys and girls and stay out of 'dirty' politics.

What happened to Modi's much vaunted diplomacy with Islamic nations?


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OIC is only a cope group for al-Bakistan, it only makes empty statements while the constituent countries run their own agendas.

Fruits of Batman's diplomacy are found in most of the Gulf sheikhdoms except Qatar, other green countries with changa relations include Iran, Iraq and Egypt.

Back in the day all these green countries used to provide Bakistan with fuel and materiel support against kuffar India, press X to doubt if the same will happen today if war breaks out
 
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