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Hire a few Afghan truck drivers to deliver trucks loaded with drones near Pakistan’s military facilities, then unleash the drone attacks. This tactic doesn’t even require SEAD/DEAD operations or expensive hypersonic missiles like BrahMos—just cheap drones delivering maximum damage at minimal cost.
And why do you think that pakis aren't learning from this already?
Why would they let afghans roam around their military installations
India should first work in balochistan that's a place where India should become active while the world looks at a nuclear conflict
 
A ballistic missile or drone launched from Ukrainian territory would easily be intercepted by Russia’s robust air defense systems. But the idea of smuggling hundreds of drones into Russian territory using trucks—that was truly out-of-the-box. I never thought something like that could actually be done.
This is nothing new. This is a textbook example of trojan horse. I personally think the saboteurs had insider help -- aka treason.

Initially I was disappointed that perimeter security teams of the Russian bases in question did not take into account ground saboteurs bringing in drones. But, at this point, I do not think that is the case. On the contrary, we are looking at a sophisticated infiltration operation using traitors as launch vectors.
 
This is nothing new. This is a textbook example of trojan horse. I personally think the saboteurs had insider help -- aka treason.

Initially I was disappointed that perimeter security teams of the Russian bases in question did not take into account ground saboteurs bringing in drones. But, at this point, I do not think that is the case. On the contrary, we are looking at a sophisticated infiltration operation using traitors as launch vectors.
How would we fare against something like this
 
How would we fare against something like this
I know you are looking for a glamorous answer. Unfortunately, there is no glamorous answer. The answer is simple: stomp out the traitors.

Contrary to the popular views that I am seeing online regarding attacks on Russian bases, the attacks do not demonstrate failure of Russian air defenses or even perimeter security protocols. Even simple radar installations take into account the possibility of attacks from ground saboteurs.

This was a very sophisticated infiltration operation using traitors as launch vectors.
 
I know you are looking for a glamorous answer. Unfortunately, there is no glamorous answer. The answer is simple: stomp out the traitors.

Contrary to the popular views that I am seeing online regarding attacks on Russian bases, the attacks do not demonstrate failure of Russian air defenses or even perimeter security protocols. Even simple radar installations take into account the possibility of attacks from ground saboteurs.

This was a very sophisticated infiltration operation using traitors as launch vectors.
I don't want any glamorous answer
Stomping out and going full apeshit on traitors is the only option a nation of 1.4 billion people has no other
 
I know you are looking for a glamorous answer. Unfortunately, there is no glamorous answer. The answer is simple: stomp out the traitors.

Contrary to the popular views that I am seeing online regarding attacks on Russian bases, the attacks do not demonstrate failure of Russian air defenses or even perimeter security protocols. Even simple radar installations take into account the possibility of attacks from ground saboteurs.

This was a very sophisticated infiltration operation using traitors as launch vectors.
India has more than 60 airbases spread across the country, all of which are large and equipped with highly advanced and expensive platforms and equipment. Pakistan has only 11 airbases, which are relatively smaller and theoretically easier to defend. Now, it’s a matter of another debate that Pakistan still fails to defend them.
 
India has more than 60 airbases spread across the country, all of which are large and equipped with highly advanced and expensive platforms and equipment. Pakistan has only 11 airbases, which are relatively smaller and theoretically easier to defend. Now, it’s a matter of another debate that Pakistan still fails to defend them.
We shouldn't have stopped
I truly wonder what damage we could have done had we not agreed on a ceasefire
 
Russian millitary capabilities are overestimated by West, post 2000 their military capabilities has went downhill.
West do this to divert attention of their own population.
Post Soviet era there was no reason to keep nato running, it was solely done as china was week at that time.

However if russian government falls it won't be a big issue for us as the new government will still have friendly relation with us minus the sanctions
same with the overhyped Speatsnaz, it was the SAS and SBS who'd do simulation red team/blue team attacks to demonstrate how a foriegn SF attack would look like and that. the western media put out thinking Speatsnaz are super soilders
 
We shouldn't have stopped
I truly wonder what damage we could have done had we not agreed on a ceasefire
I would like to think that we only stopped after we were satisfied with the results of our air strikes. There is a lot of "hidden" stuff that was taken out we have not claimed. The statement of General Sahir Shamshad Mirza, Chairman of Pakistan’s Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee at Shangri-la Dialogue is enough to prove that Pakistani military establishment is shaken to the core by the 4 day war. It has forced them to question their capabilities and strengths. As Gen. Mirza says, next time there won't be enough time for the world powers to intervene and control.

We haven't called off Op Sindoor. It is just a temporary cessation that will resume eventually.
 
Hello everyone! So I just heard about the recent drone strikes which the Ukrainian Military launched on Russian Airbases targetting military aircraft such as bombers.

According to the reports I have read, more than 40+ Russian aircraft were destroyed in the attack. We have FPV feed-footage released of these drones confirming the same too. According to Ukrainian intelligence sources, four Russian military airbases were targeted simultaneously in this attack: Belaya, Diaghilev, Olenya, and Ivanovo.

All I can say is that was some ingenious planning coupled with a lot of impressive firepower right there, I for one did not expect something like this from the Ukrainian side. I am very certain that Ukraine had got some help from the inside (Possibly Moles in the Russian Military) to do this because it doesn't look like they would have managed to accomplish this without otherwise. Throughout the Russo-Ukrainian war, we have heard innumerable cases of Russian defectors spying for Ukraine and sending intelligence and data back to them.

Ukraine launched these drones from trucks. Basically they used trucks as trojan horses (As Mobile drone launchers/vectors) to transport these drones near to the airbases after which these drones were launched in a sudden kamikaze style attack. Russians were taken by surprise here, I don't think they would have possibly anticipated Ukraine doing something like this deep inside Russia, at least not on such an unprecedented mass scale.

Here is a representative pic of Kalashnikov's KUB-SM showcasing using modular containers as a platform for drone launchers.
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These are not the type of trucks that we would see our enemy use in carrying out such infiltration attacks on our airbases and military infrastructure. These designs would be a dead give away to their malicious cargo aka kamikaze drones.

The type of trojan horse vehicles which we will see being used in carrying out such complex operations would resemble the average civilian container trucks and Vans that we see on road in our day to day lives.
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There is a very high possibility that right within our borders at this very moment, in some remote corner of India there is a big warehouse where cheap quad-copter drones are being assembled by illegal Bangladeshi immigrants and having explosives rigged to them, waiting to be transported en masse in a big truck to be driven near one of our military installations to carry out, you know what.

I strongly believe that these types of infiltration attacks using drones will be one of the first moves on Day-One by Pakistan & China if they were to start a full fledged war with us right now. During the recent conflict with Pakistan, India intercepted several Fateh ballistic missiles launched by Pakistan along with a huge barrage of drones too. Operation Sindhoor has proven the capability of Indian Air defences in repelling any sort of attack. China too knows this.

People over here on this forum rejoice over the idea that to counter PAF's upcoming J-35 Stealth aircraft, all we need to do is simply lob several dozen cruise missiles at airbases housing these planes and render the entire airport in operable so that the J-35s or any PAF aircraft can never take off in the first place. Now let me ask you this:

"Do you think that the enemy does not want the same? Do you think the enemy will leave any stone unturned in rendering our bases inoperable and stopping our fighters from taking off?"​

The answer: No, they won't. War is not fair, nothing is fair and square in war.

India is a very large country and owning to our large area and geography, any attempt to try a shock and awe campaign on our military installations by our adversaries will not work out very well because of our strong air defence systems. Ideally we need to fastrack our Air Defence System programs like Project Kusha, probably buy additional S-400 SAM Batteries, and thicken our AD cover. We need to prioritise in strengthening the AD network around our military installations and airbases. Also work on anti-drone systems is crucial too.

The enemy knows very well about our Air Defence capabilities, that is why they will resort to tactics using explosive rigged drones en masse (Like Ukraine did with Russia) on our forward operating bases.

So how can we counter and defend against a huge barrage of kamikaze drones launched from such a close distance towards our airbases and installations? Here is my opinion: The best and I repeat the best solution would be -

"To never let it happen in the first place. Like the saying goes in medicine "Prevention is always better than cure"."​

To prevent such an attack, we need to set up a stringent perimeter check within a radius of at least 4-5 kms (or more) of any military airbase or infrastructure to check on any suspicious vehicles which may possibly be carrying such cheap quad-copter drones.

Ukraine-Russia war has taught us many lessons on "HOW TO FIGHT AND HOW NOT TO FIGHT A WAR". I hope the Indian military is clossing monitoring the Russo-Ukrainian conflict and taking necessary lessons.
 

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That was indeed a masterful strike by Ukraine, a combination of planning & sabotage and it was a nice punch in the balls.
Wonder how Putin will respond to this body blow.

a lesson for us as well.
If Ukraine can do this to Russia, Pakistan can do this to us as well. We have a lot of haraamkhors in our midst who would gladly help Pakis with this.

Masterful please, this is NATO intel, planning, star link, and around 7-8 aircraft are damaged and destroyed. If this wakes up and pushes Russian to go balls out that leads to victory, then well price of doing business. Hell on Earth awaits Ukraine.
 
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