Russian Ukrainian War (20 Viewers)

spikey360 said:
They are not the same stock. Soviet military planners were much more intelligent than the current military leadership of Russia. Furthermore they had the luxury of numbers, which the current form of Russian military lack. Soviet and Russian scales are not comparable anymore. Only the nuclear backbone of the armed forces had been transplanted. Many other vital organs were forgotten in the great hurry.
Also, do not forget the Ukrainians and Russians are both slavs. Slavs know each other far better than we understand them, so a war between these brotherly people is bound to be messy, confusing and very absurd from the beginning.

Yes, Ukraine is led by a clown. But increasingly it seems Putin is indulging the clown far more than he should have. What stops Putin from decapitation of Ukrainian leadership, I know not! It perhaps may be as simple as - Russian military cannot get the job done.


These operations are not comparable. We used supersonic missiles the planning of which took 15 days and wiped out PAF runway capability in one day.
Ukranians planned a clandestine attack which took 1.5 years and used drones. If Russia wants, they can still destroy Ukraine from air. Even if Pakistan wanted, they couldn't get a jet trainer off the ground. There's a huge difference.
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Yes, the Ukrainian attack on Russia was not a conventional military operation but more of a clandestine strike—similar to how Pakistan has historically used terrorists against India. However, it was effective in delivering a psychological blow, particularly because it targeted military installations rather than civilians.

In response, Russia is likely to retaliate with overwhelming force, employing traditional military tactics, including ground forces and the air force. It’s also clear that Ukraine surrendered its nuclear weapons for a reason—they lunderstood that Russia would never allow them to deploy, let alone use, nuclear arms.
 
Pakistani military has also kept its awaam under the illusion that nuclear weapons are some kind of silver bullet—invulnerable to Indian strikes and capable of deterring any full-scale war.

They thought Pakistan can continue supporting cross-border terrorism in India without fear of direct military retaliation or escalation into war.
 
Ajatshatru said:
In response, Russia is likely to retaliate with overwhelming force, employing traditional military tactics, including ground forces and the air force. It’s also clear that Ukraine surrendered its nuclear weapons for a reason—they lunderstood that Russia would never allow them to deploy, let alone use, nuclear arms.
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I think they'd try something different this time. Hire some ex Mossad or ex RAW professionals and try something different.

For God's sake, this is the State which gifted the world the Chimera called KGB, how could it have gone so wrong? Deserves a book by itself.

Maybe KGB/SVR could use some unknown gunmen or exploding pagers and target the key people of the Nazi regime they purport to fight.
 
Ajatshatru said:
Yes, the Ukrainian attack on Russia was not a conventional military operation but more of a clandestine strike—similar to how Pakistan has historically used terrorists against India. However, it was effective in delivering a psychological blow, particularly because it targeted military installations rather than civilians.

In response, Russia is likely to retaliate with overwhelming force, employing traditional military tactics, including ground forces and the air force. It’s also clear that Ukraine surrendered its nuclear weapons for a reason—they lunderstood that Russia would never allow them to deploy, let alone use, nuclear arms.
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Cheap Russian oil melted Indian brains? What kind of terrorist attack against military facilities can there be? Anything that works for war is a legitimate target.
I agree that this will not change the military aspect at the front - cruise missiles from these bombers flew into the rear areas and did little harm to the military. In addition, this is not a very difficult target for our air defense, unlike ballistic missiles and a user from Russia sometimes shows this.
However, Russia cannot increase the strikes. You have some illusion that Russia has secret forces somewhere. If they had - they would not have called North Korean soldiers. Already half of the artillery from NK, 2/3 of the shells from NK. Russia is fighting at maximum effort.
 
Magadha Naresh said:
Cant there be s counter tariff, of 700% on any goods we import from us ?
We wanted to work with both, really we we wanted to work with both.
But these bone headed measures are absurd at worst and evil at best .
India will either stop buying russian oil ( very hard , almost not almost absolutely impossible)
India levies counter tariffs on other american things, like their companies.
India , cancels the negotiations of any trade deal with the EU .
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The stuff we import from usa are minerals fuel , semi precious stones , nuclear reactor and components , other capital machinary etc etc .. So we can't put counter tariff . We need to start searching for new sources of oil and demand some concession on shell oil . Russia better finish this shit soon , they are not progressing or achieving anything substantial . Denazification is a vague goal . God knows what exactly they want .. But they should keep a condition to lift all sanctions and restrictions on the negotiation table .
 
Akim said:
Cheap Russian oil melted Indian brains? What kind of terrorist attack against military facilities can there be? Anything that works for war is a legitimate target.
I agree that this will not change the military aspect at the front - cruise missiles from these bombers flew into the rear areas and did little harm to the military. In addition, this is not a very difficult target for our air defense, unlike ballistic missiles and a user from Russia sometimes shows this.
However, Russia cannot increase the strikes. You have some illusion that Russia has secret forces somewhere. If they had - they would not have called North Korean soldiers. Already half of the artillery from NK, 2/3 of the shells from NK. Russia is fighting at maximum effort.
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@Akim I think Google translate is making you misunderstand what he said.

He didn't say that was a terror attack but a kind of assymetric or unconventional attack like guerillas do.
It doesn't mean he's saying the drones or drone operators were terrorist or something.:creepy:
 
Waanar said:
@Akim I think Google translate is making you misunderstand what he said.

He didn't say that was a terror attack but a kind of assymetric or unconventional attack like guerillas do.
It doesn't mean he's saying the drones or drone operators were terrorist or something.:creepy:
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I write only through Google translate because I'm lazy, but I read and speak without a translator.
I understood this meaning, if not, then I apologize.
 
Footage of the strike of the Russian Iskander-M ballistic missile, 9M723-K5 with a cluster warhead, on the Ukrainian military training ground Novomoskovsky, near the settlement of Gvardeyskoye in the Dnipropetrovsk region of Ukraine. It is worth noting that this is the second strike on this training ground. The training ground housed a tent camp of the 158th and 33rd brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. As a result of the Iskander-M missile strike, about 75 servicemen were killed, the Ukrainian army reported 12 fatalities, and the commander of the Ground Forces of Ukraine, Mykhailo Drapatiy, decided to resign.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txqex_XAb7U
 
Akim said:
Cheap Russian oil melted Indian brains? What kind of terrorist attack against military facilities can there be? Anything that works for war is a legitimate target.
I agree that this will not change the military aspect at the front - cruise missiles from these bombers flew into the rear areas and did little harm to the military. In addition, this is not a very difficult target for our air defense, unlike ballistic missiles and a user from Russia sometimes shows this.
However, Russia cannot increase the strikes. You have some illusion that Russia has secret forces somewhere. If they had - they would not have called North Korean soldiers. Already half of the artillery from NK, 2/3 of the shells from NK. Russia is fighting at maximum effort.
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The reason North Koreans were in Russia is because idiot Zelensky attacked Russia. Do you remember the treaty signed by them? Now that Ukraine was beaten back, you don't anything about N. Korean soldiers fighting on Ukrainian soil.
 
sameer said:

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www.euronews.com

Von der Leyen backs 'bone-crushing' US Senate bill to sanction Russia

The Senate bill envisions 500% tariffs on countries that buy Russian fossil fuels. If applied as intended, it would target several EU countries. #EuropeNews
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So, this absolutely mental dumbass lindsey Graham is now threatening 500% tariffs on any country purchasing Russian oil, gas or uranium.

This bill has lot of support in the US senate and apparently 82 of the 100 senators are supporting it and expected to pass by end of month. EU supporting it as well.

So now 3 countries with the world's highest oil reserves are getting fully sanctioned (Iran, Venuzuela, Russia). I believe the ulterior motive is to keep US shale oil profitable. Crude is already $63 per brl and is expected to come down further in the next few months due to increased OPEC production and lower China demand.
US shale which is more costlier to extract as it involves fracking. Shale producers require a minimum of around $55-60 per brl to remain profitable.
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I would take everything out of Lindsey Graham's mouth as a grain of sand. It's empty talk and a empty threat by a little man trying to project that's he's relevant and powerful. The senate leader said we "could" take up this bill in June. The white house has not commented on this and Steve Bannon (Trump's former advisor thinks Graham should be arrested for interfering. "https://thehill.com/homenews/5329011-bannon-arrest-graham-ukraine/

In an interview on NewsNation’s “CUOMO,” Bannon said Graham was giving Ukrainians “false hope” by meeting with the country’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, and by suggesting the U.S. support Kyiv’s stunning drone attack on Russia’s strategic bombing fleet.


“We can’t have Lindsey Graham, and particularly Zelensky, leading us into a third world war with a deep strike into Russia,” Bannon told host Chris Cuomo.
 
The SBU of Ukraine published footage of the explosion of one of the supports of the Crimean Bridge. According to the SBU, the bridge support was mined with 1,100 kg of explosives in TNT equivalent. It is worth noting that the explosion does not look like the use of explosives of such power. It is more likely that the Ukrainian underwater kamikaze drone "Marichka" or underwater drone Toloka was used, it is controlled by Starlink. Earlier, Ukraine tested new underwater drones "Marichka", technical information about them is in the link to the video in the comments to the video. Now the bridge is operating normally.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsbjKSNKQ2c
 
Footage of the strike of the Russian kamikaze drone "Lancet-51" on the Ukrainian naval drone Magura V7, armed with two anti-aircraft missiles AIM-9 "Sidewinder". The video was filmed near the Crimean Bridge, the Ukrainian naval drone tried to attack the bridge. This is the second attempt to attack the bridge in a day. As a result of the strike of the drone "Lancet-51", the Ukrainian naval drone was destroyed. It is worth noting that if the drone was near the bridge, then "Starlink" is not jammed there, which is a significant vulnerability.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOLdQN-yCCo
 
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