Russian Ukrainian War (12 Viewers)

[Akim]

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[pythonlover]

I'll admit about a year and half ago it was close to a stalemate, but in the last year and a half the Russians have made excellent gains, and the gains are starting to have a snowball rolling down a hill effect (progressing geometrically) There is nothing Ukraine can do. I can't predict when Odessa will fall, I can only predict that it will given time. Russia is patient, and that's something the western military thinking doesn't understand. Russia will not stop until Odessa is taken, no matter how long it takes.

Until and unless Ukrainian army completely collapses, invasion of Odessa would be at best pyrrhic victory for Russia. Crossing Dneiper would be a bloodbath. It would be only possible if Ukrainian lines collapse and Ukrainian army is on the run and there are mass desertions (though desertions in Ukrainian army is rising at alarming speed, I must say).

Though Russia has been no doubt capturing territory at faster pace and Ukraine is facing manpower problems, much of defensive duties have been replaced with drones. Drones limit the pace of the territory annexation, even if the front is manned by lesser amount of Ukrainian soldiers. Russia will face massive amount of drones while crossing Dneiper.

 

[Akim]

Crossing the Dnieper River - the Russians can't even create a serious foothold on the Oskol River. It's 4 times narrower.

 

[WW2historian]

Until and unless Ukrainian army completely collapses, invasion of Odessa would be at best pyrrhic victory for Russia. Crossing Dneiper would be a bloodbath. It would be only possible if Ukrainian lines collapse and Ukrainian army is on the run and there are mass desertions (though desertions in Ukrainian army is rising at alarming speed, I must say).

Though Russia has been no doubt capturing territory at faster pace and Ukraine is facing manpower problems, much of defensive duties have been replaced with drones. Drones limit the pace of the territory annexation, even if the front is manned by lesser amount of Ukrainian soldiers. Russia will face massive amount of drones while crossing Dneiper.

When the Russians make a serious attempt to take Odessa, Transnistria will join them and this will create big problems for Ukraine. You are correct, Russia won't attack until Ukraine's army very weak, and previous stockpiles of military aid from the US runs out.

 

[pythonlover]

Crossing the Dnieper River - the Russians can't even create a serious foothold on the Oskol River. It's 4 times narrower.

I remember asking you for what you think would be the end game for Ukraine on the previous forum. Your answer then was complete withdrawal of Russia from Ukrainian territories, even from Crimea. Now we can safely say that Ukraine is not going back to 1991 or 2022 borders. It is suffering from manpower crisis (I daily see at least 5-6 "bussification" videos) and desertions are at all time high.

Russians have been gaining more territories day by day and there is no sign that Russian army will stop any time soon. Despite Ukrainian claims of humongous Russian losses, it is clear that it is Ukraine which is at backfoot. Any terms for Ukraine from here on will most likely be worse than if both sides would conclude peace now. So I ask you again, what is the end game for Ukraine? What is the end objective? Right now it just seems that Ukrainians are just defending and hoping that some day Russia would collapse miraculously. How exactly is Ukraine aiming to win?

 

[WW2historian]

There is evidence that there has been a build up in Transnistria for years now.
"https://moldova1.md/p/50816/russian-troops-in-transnistria-pose-security-risks-to-moldova

 

[WW2historian]

I remember asking you for what you think would be the end game for Ukraine on the previous forum. Your answer then was complete withdrawal of Russia from Ukrainian territories, even from Crimea. Now we can safely say that Ukraine is not going back to 1991 or 2022 borders. It is suffering from manpower crisis (I daily see at least 5-6 "bussification" videos) and desertions are at all time high.

Russians have been gaining more territories day by day and there is no sign that Russian army will stop any time soon. Despite Ukrainian claims of humongous Russian losses, it is clear that it is Ukraine which is at backfoot. Any terms for Ukraine from here on will most likely be worse than if both sides would conclude peace now. So I ask you again, what is the end game for Ukraine? What is the end objective? Right now it just seems that Ukrainians are just defending and hoping that some day Russia would collapse miraculously.

I've heard Akim say at least ten times that either Russia or Ukraine will cease to exist. Since he said it's a dream that Russia will take Odessa, that can only mean he thinks Russia will cease to exist and Ukraine will achieve total victory.

 

[WW2historian]

I've heard Akim say at least ten times that either Russia or Ukraine will cease to exist. Since he said it's a dream that Russia will take Odessa, that can only mean he thinks Russia will cease to exist and Ukraine will achieve total victory.

Here just one post where he makes such a claim. I think most of his post claiming such a thing were on the old forum.

"For both countries, this is an existential war. Whoever wins will continue to exist.
Although many experts say that if Russia loses, it will remain Russia. I do not think so. They have invested too many resources in this war and many regions will not want to be in the losing camp."https://defenceforumbharat.com/threads/russian-ukrainian-war.278/post-68128

 

[Akim]

I remember asking you for what you think would be the end game for Ukraine on the previous forum. Your answer then was complete withdrawal of Russia from Ukrainian territories, even from Crimea. Now we can safely say that Ukraine is not going back to 1991 or 2022 borders. It is suffering from manpower crisis (I daily see at least 5-6 "bussification" videos) and desertions are at all time high.

Russians have been gaining more territories day by day and there is no sign that Russian army will stop any time soon. Despite Ukrainian claims of humongous Russian losses, it is clear that it is Ukraine which is at backfoot. Any terms for Ukraine from here on will most likely be worse than if both sides would conclude peace now. So I ask you again, what is the end game for Ukraine? What is the end objective? Right now it just seems that Ukrainians are just defending and hoping that some day Russia would collapse miraculously. How exactly is Ukraine aiming to win?

I wonder where you see so many videos of forced mobilization?
I confirm about desertion and personnel shortage, but these are not critical figures, although large.
How will victory be achieved - by knocking out military power from Russia. Have you long remembered the large tank attacks of the Russians? Regarding territories: name at least one regional center that the Russians have captured in the last six months?

 

[Nicky]

Will Trump care?


View: https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1934225796559741195?t=PS-H_Iw5tVFk4QB2vb28Rw&s=19

 

[Akim]

View: https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1933246222409871675

and Ukrainian 128mm

 

[pythonlover]

I wonder where you see so many videos of forced mobilization?

Oh I have seen many on r/UkraineRussiaReport on reddit, most with proper geolocations. I can post link to many of them but I have blocked reddit for now on my computer.

I confirm about desertion and personnel shortage, but these are not critical figures, although large.

About personnel shortages, many times Ukrainian commanders themselves have said that they are usually massively outnumbered by Russian troops at local level. If despite conscription, Ukrainian troops are being outnumbered by Russian troops, then shouldn't that ring alarm bells?

How will victory be achieved - by knocking out military power from Russia. Have you long remembered the large tank attacks of the Russians? Regarding territories: name at least one regional center that the Russians have captured in the last six months?

About large tank attacks, that era of warfare is gone until super strong EW is developed. Tanks attacking in group is a recipe for disaster as they will be easily picked out by FPV drones. Even with EW, fibre optics drones, which are now used in massive numbers by Russians, will still be super effective.

And do you still think Ukraine can knock out Russia militarily? Is there a single evidence to support this after the successful Kherson & Kharkiv campaigns? The counter offensive was defeated by Russian lines, Ukraine attacked Kursk later, was again pushed back. Now Russians are attacking Sumy. Meanwhile Russians though may have been capturing territory slowly and may be not captured any regional centre, they are still steadily advancing. Western support for Ukraine has also peaked. US is unlikely going to support Ukraine in quantum it did during 2023 counter offensive. If Ukraine could not push out Russia with peak western support, how does it think it will defeat Russia militarily, with lesser number of weapons and manpower shortages? Slowly and steadily, attrition will have its effect. And despite Ukrainian claims of humongous Russian losses, Russian war machine still seems to be going on.

See I have no hatred towards Russia or Ukraine. I have been following the war from neutral perspective, but I don't think Ukraine is fighting right now with any end goal in mind. EU is not going to replace US in terms of support, simply because it lacks both willpower and capacity. The best time for Ukraine to conclude peace was just after Kharkiv and Kherson victories, IMO. I think from here on, peace terms for Ukraine will be progessively worse.

 

[WW2historian]

When I compare the losses that Ukraine claims compared with Oryx's numbers, it's hilarious. Oryx claims about 21500 total equipment losses, Ukraine claims 165000. Ukraine is claiming 8 times or 800% more destroyed equipment than Oryx? What's even funnier is that Akim believes Ukraine's numbers.

 

[Soldier35]

The video shows the use of a Russian ODAB-1500 fuel-aircraft bomb by a Su-34 aircraft. The ODAB-1500 bomb was used against a temporary deployment point of the Ukrainian army in the area of the settlement of Borovaya, Kharkov region of Ukraine.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkONqgHfb-s

 

[WW2historian]

The video shows the use of a Russian ODAB-1500 fuel-aircraft bomb by a Su-34 aircraft. The ODAB-1500 bomb was used against a temporary deployment point of the Ukrainian army in the area of the settlement of Borovaya, Kharkov region of Ukraine.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkONqgHfb-s

According to Zelensky Ukraine is only losing about 40 soldiers a day. It's hard to do the math to predict how many soldiers died in that attack. If you use Zelensky's numbers it might of been 5 at the most. I'm thinking it was way more than that. The west believes these attacks are just for show and the Russian's drop several hundred of these accurate bombs each month.

 

[Akim]

Oh I have seen many on r/UkraineRussiaReport on reddit, most with proper geolocations. I can post link to many of them but I have blocked reddit for now on my computer.


About personnel shortages, many times Ukrainian commanders themselves have said that they are usually massively outnumbered by Russian troops at local level. If despite conscription, Ukrainian troops are being outnumbered by Russian troops, then shouldn't that ring alarm bells?


About large tank attacks, that era of warfare is gone until super strong EW is developed. Tanks attacking in group is a recipe for disaster as they will be easily picked out by FPV drones. Even with EW, fibre optics drones, which are now used in massive numbers by Russians, will still be super effective.

And do you still think Ukraine can knock out Russia militarily? Is there a single evidence to support this after the successful Kherson & Kharkiv campaigns? The counter offensive was defeated by Russian lines, Ukraine attacked Kursk later, was again pushed back. Now Russians are attacking Sumy. Meanwhile Russians though may have been capturing territory slowly and may be not captured any regional centre, they are still steadily advancing. Western support for Ukraine has also peaked. US is unlikely going to support Ukraine in quantum it did during 2023 counter offensive. If Ukraine could not push out Russia with peak western support, how does it think it will defeat Russia militarily, with lesser number of weapons and manpower shortages? Slowly and steadily, attrition will have its effect. And despite Ukrainian claims of humongous Russian losses, Russian war machine still seems to be going on.

See I have no hatred towards Russia or Ukraine. I have been following the war from neutral perspective, but I don't think Ukraine is fighting right now with any end goal in mind. EU is not going to replace US in terms of support, simply because it lacks both willpower and capacity. The best time for Ukraine to conclude peace was just after Kharkiv and Kherson victories, IMO. I think from here on, peace terms for Ukraine will be progessively worse.

It is clear that you do not have a video of forced mobilization. Such cases happen and they are not uncommon but they are 5-6 cases per week, not per day.
They are very vivid with those who evaded confirmation of data and are now caught.
There are excesses. Recently, the TCC took away a driver who had a son with an acute form of cerebral palsy in the back seat. He did not need confirmation, but he did not have a document from the TCC, so the perpetrators took him away without sorting things out. The public intervened and let him go.
We closely monitor abuse of power, so I asked where such information came from?
By the way, this is also about armored vehicles. Have you seen many videos where Ukrainian troops massively use motorcycles and cars? Indeed, Ukrainian assault companies on motorcycles are now being created, but mainly all this is used for logistics.
Armor definitely saves lives, some units of military equipment can withstand up to 10 hits. Civilian equipment for a military man is a definite suicide bomber.
I already told you that the goal is to destroy the enemy's military power.
Our army does not cling to positions if there is no point in holding them. The Russian army is the opposite. Territory is an ideological underpinning. That is why they sacrifice everything they can. And they attack even on bathtubs. There is a reason for this - to bring more and unload easier, but it looks ridiculous.

For example: Now in the Tyotkino-town area (Kursk region) an entire Russian regiment is half-encircled, but there is no order to retreat and the regiment is destroyed. In such a situation, Ukrainian troops often retreat to reserve positions.
Therefore, I am surprised when they say that time is against us. The Chinese asked not to attack Red Square on May 9. A year ago, one could only dream of such an opportunity.

 

[WW2historian]

It is clear that you do not have a video of forced mobilization. Such cases happen and they are not uncommon but they are 5-6 cases per week, not per day.
They are very vivid with those who evaded confirmation of data and are now caught.
There are excesses. Recently, the TCC took away a driver who had a son with an acute form of cerebral palsy in the back seat. He did not need confirmation, but he did not have a document from the TCC, so the perpetrators took him away without sorting things out. The public intervened and let him go.
We closely monitor abuse of power, so I asked where such information came from?
By the way, this is also about armored vehicles. Have you seen many videos where Ukrainian troops massively use motorcycles and cars? Indeed, Ukrainian assault companies on motorcycles are now being created, but mainly all this is used for logistics.
Armor definitely saves lives, some units of military equipment can withstand up to 10 hits. Civilian equipment for a military man is a definite suicide bomber.
I already told you that the goal is to destroy the enemy's military power.
Our army does not cling to positions if there is no point in holding them. The Russian army is the opposite. Territory is an ideological underpinning. That is why they sacrifice everything they can. And they attack even on bathtubs. There is a reason for this - to bring more and unload easier, but it looks ridiculous.
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For example: Now in the Tyotkino-town area (Kursk region) an entire Russian regiment is half-encircled, but there is no order to retreat and the regiment is destroyed. In such a situation, Ukrainian troops often retreat to reserve positions.
Therefore, I am surprised when they say that time is against us. The Chinese asked not to attack Red Square on May 9. A year ago, one could only dream of such an opportunity.

I'm sure the 5 or 6 forced mobilizations per week make up for a hundred thousand desertions. How the hell would you know how many are done in a week? Do you just pull shit out of your ass??

 

[Akim]

I'm sure the 5 or 6 forced mobilizations per week make up for a hundred thousand desertions. How the hell would you know how many are done in a week? Do you just pull shit out of your ass??

Russian dog with American roots, I live here, not like you, thousands of miles away.

 

[WW2historian]

Russian dog with American roots, I live here, not like you, thousands of miles away.

So that means you can see everything that goes on at every moment in a country that has a land mass of over 600000 sq. km. I live Iin the the US and I don't know what the fuck is happening even 1 km from where I live. What? Do you have a crystal ball that sees everything? TAKE YOU MEDS!

 

[Akim]

So that means you can see everything that goes on at every moment in a country that has a land mass of over 600000 sq. km. I live Iin the the US and I don't know what the fuck is happening even 1 km from where I live. What? Do you have a crystal ball that sees everything? TAKE YOU MEDS!

You're fixated on medication. I don't need to see everything, I just need to hear. Since Israel started bombing Iran and our drone+glider looted the "flying moped" factory in Alabuga, the sirens have become less frequent.