Russian Ukrainian War

[Prasad]

Yup.. I am waiting for how Europe reacts.. European cucks had 3 years to turn into a partial war economy, and rearm, knowing that Trump would scale back military support to Ukraine and EU militarily..
A rearmed EU, after being weakened by attrition after the cold war, would have a better say in negotiations with US and Russia.. They would have been taken seriously..
Instead, their strategy was based on hope that Trump would not get elected..
Now Europe is being treated like the clowns they are by US and Russia..

You really expect fight from nations that can't even protect their little girls from islamists?

If these cucked Euro trash could fight, they would have done so already.
These are dying nations with zero fight left in them.

 

[WW2historian]

There you go, folks the devil himself took a U-turn, When even Lindsey Graham won't support your war, it's time to settle for peace.


View: https://x.com/WallStreetMav/status/1895571311923204115

If it weren't for the fact that L. Graham helped start this war, I would have respected what he said, but Graham is just a coward and threw Zelensky under the bus as a scape goat to get the heat off of himself.

 

[WW2historian]

Correct me if I'm wrong but Trump is now telling Putin that Ukraine will have the right to fight on because the mineral deal if finalized will do that. Trump is out of his frigging mind. He needs to listen to his former advisor Steve Bannon and Just cut your financial losses and walk the fuck away from Ukraine. Putin won't cut a deal and the US will lose their investment. I suppose he could sign a mineral deal with Putin when they conquer Ukraine, but why cut a deal now with the losing side?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1OIK9PVxNk

Okay president Trump will you now listen to Steve Bannon and walk away from this total shit show?

 

[WW2historian]

It was at the initial stage of the war that American supplies were VERY important. Then the army increased threefold and only the Americans could urgently provide it. Now, if there is such a need, then everything can be replaced. Except for the Patriot and Hawk. The Europeans have analogues (SAMP/T and IRIS-T) and they are even better, but the question rests on quantity. But as long as Trump is ready to sell weapons
As for armored vehicles and ammunition, the market can find a replacement. What costs a million dollars in the US, analogues cost 700-800 thousand.

If there is such a need??? Are you joking, fuck yes there is a need, so you better hope that everything can be replaced, with the exception of the Patriot and hawk. I just don't see how the UK and France don't bail on Ukraine after this shit show at the white house. Give it up and save Odessa, or fight on like dumb fucks and lose it.

 

[Akim]

If there is such a need??? Are you joking, fuck yes there is a need, so you better hope that everything

If there is such a need??? Are you joking, fuck yes there is a need, so you better hope that everything can be replaced, with the exception of the Patriot and hawk. I just don't see how the UK and France don't bail on Ukraine after this shit show at the white house. Give it up and save Odessa, or fight on like dumb fucks and lose it.

I repeat: I do not communicate with Trumpists.
Kongsberg to Integrate Ukrainian Missiles Into NASAMS

 

[vampyrbladez]

Zelenskyy is an example of what NOT to do when your ass is hosting a big boot from Russia.

It was a pathetic display of diplomacy.
Thank god you would never see this kind of disgrace from our politicians.

Spoiler: Our politicians (Zelensky Clone)

 

[Blademaster]

WHere did you get the 3 generations number from..? Ukraine's casualties are about the same as Russia.. probably around 500k irretrivable losses including deaths
Ukraine lost Crimea and part of Donbass even before Zelensky came on to the screen..
Putin wants a demilitarized Ukraine, either through war or negotiations.. Are you fine with a militarily neutered or castrated India, if China demands it? I would rather say we fight and find out how tough China really is, if China makes such demands..even if we lose hundreds of thousands of men in the process..
If at the end of the war, you end up militarily neutered, it is OK, you would have atleast fought for your country..

Do not believe the casualties reports about Russia coming from western sources. They are totally fake and unreliable and propaganda and those figures came from Ukrainians themselves who have proven to be complete liars.

The 3 generations can be looked at by casualties reports coming out from independent Ukrainian sources and western sources and the fact that 10 million people left Ukraine. That’s 25% loss right there. And you got reports of Ukrainian authorities pressing any able bodied male into service. You add all those ups and yoh arrive at a rough conclusion that 3 generations are lost.

 

[spikey360]

I am always amazed by such stupidity. A high school student attacked a first-grader with the confidence of a winner. This is not a ring of identical fighters. The weight is very different. Of course we had help. By the way, when you see a real donkey on the Ukrainian side - show me.

View: https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1888573681653182950

This is exactly why you Ukrainians never had a chance.
Russians are willing to do anything to win.
As for your world view of animals at war, look up what we do in Siachen till date.
I am sure the Pakistanis have a few

Well Donitz is mobilizing in the North, Kesselring in the South and Armeeabteilung Steiner's counteroffensive will come any day now. Satire aside, Kampfgruppe Mohnke and Weidling's LVI Panzer Corps had a better shot at breaking out of Berlin in 1945 than the AFU does at taking back the lost 1/3rd of the country.

Aside from Germany none of their industries are ready to sustain war. And Poland is the only country with a credible standing army that can stop a Russian advance. They have been riding on America's coattails for so long they got careless. Everybody is in a rush to arm Poland as the "final" "final red line" and it's eating the lion's share of NATO's budgeting. They'll have nearly as many tanks as Pakistan by the time they are done. And over a hundred Apaches and two F-35 brigades (with option for more, and additional F-16s). Italy just started rearming, Brits are a joke, Frenchies won't commit anything beyond some Foreign Legionaries and old armored cars.

Couldn't agree more!
Poland also has a demographic which can sustain war. No wonder they have some semblance of standing Army. They have not forgotten the old ways of the Soviet, always build for the worst case scenario.

I am stunned by the ungrateful Europeans, they are not better than Zelensky. Still not in tune with changed realities.

 

[hurrians]

Zelenskyy and Trump meeting: When the bully wins

Zelenskyy has been at the centre of a film scripted, directed and produced by the West. Trump is making a different movie, and this one isn’t a multi-starrer.

indianexpress.com

 

[shade2]

This is exactly why you Ukrainians never had a chance.
Russians are willing to do anything to win.
As for your world view of animals at war, look up what we do in Siachen till date.
I am sure the Pakistanis have a few
Couldn't agree more!
Poland also has a demographic which can sustain war. No wonder they have some semblance of standing Army. They have not forgotten the old ways of the Soviet, always build for the worst case scenario.

I am stunned by the ungrateful Europeans, they are not better than Zelensky. Still not in tune with changed realities.

Polund walas are spending 4% GDP on defence for many years and are modernizing their armed forces quickly.
Polund is not getting invaded by Roos for another 10 years because of this.

 

[WW2historian]

I repeat: I do not communicate with Trumpists.
Kongsberg to Integrate Ukrainian Missiles Into NASAMS

Akim your biggest problem is that you don't know your ass from your head. I said the following about Trump "Trump is out of his frigging mind" I think I said a lot more negative things about him over the years on both forums. You need to get your head out of your ass, shut the fuck up and listen. Then you might just learn something for once. https://defenceforumbharat.com/threads/russian-ukrainian-war.278/post-93374

 

[vampyrbladez]

WHere did you get the 3 generations number from..? Ukraine's casualties are about the same as Russia.. probably around 500k irretrivable losses including deaths
Ukraine lost Crimea and part of Donbass even before Zelensky came on to the screen..
Putin wants a demilitarized Ukraine, either through war or negotiations.. Are you fine with a militarily neutered or castrated India, if China demands it? I would rather say we fight and find out how tough China really is, if China makes such demands..even if we lose hundreds of thousands of men in the process..
If at the end of the war, you end up militarily neutered, it is OK, you would have atleast fought for your country..

We have nukes to end the world several times over. Ukrainians fucked up and gave away theirs.

 

[vampyrbladez]

I registered with DFI in 2012. At that time, the British came to Donetsk for EURO 2012 and after that I decided to brush up on my English. Then I left, but in 2014 I returned again to refute Russian lies.

By the way, it became known that instead of missiles for Hawks they want to modernize AA-missiles R-23/24.

Stay around bro, we like you. We need different international perspectives except for the inbreds next door ().

 

[GaudaNaresh]

We have nukes to end the world several times over. Ukrainians fucked up and gave away theirs.

to be honest. no. we dont.
Russia and USA does. Thats it. To nuke the whole world u need about 7000-1000 nukes, depending on whether its fission or fusion.

 

[vampyrbladez]

to be honest. no. we dont.
Russia and USA does. Thats it. To nuke the whole world u need about 7000-1000 nukes, depending on whether its fission or fusion.

Do we have the ability to wipe out every capital, economic and industrial hub on the planet and then some? Yes we do.

PS: For all those who say we don't have the range, please remember that we do have a space program

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Do we have the ability to wipe out every capital, economic and industrial hub on the planet and then some? Yes we do.

PS: For all those who say we don't have the range, please remember that we do have a space program

yes agreed re: range.
And the space program IS there for range lol. Why did USA and USSR get into space game, same as China and India are now ? coz rockets that send things to orbit are same facking thing with few more tweaks to send bomb into orbit to fall on some distant city 12,000 kms away.

I dunno exactly how many bombs India has - last i checked we had like 150. That is sufficient to nuke the capitals and main production cities of pretty much any military alliance or nuke the hell outta any one country no matter how big. But nuke all the capitals of the world and its industrial hub ?i dunno if 150 does the job.

All i know is that forget the earth, Russia has enough nukes to turn every rocky planet in this solar system into glass.
That means mercury, venus AND mars. lulz.

 

[vampyrbladez]

yes agreed re: range.
And the space program IS there for range lol. Why did USA and USSR get into space game, same as China and India are now ? coz rockets that send things to orbit are same facking thing with few more tweaks to send bomb into orbit to fall on some distant city 12,000 kms away.

I dunno exactly how many bombs India has - last i checked we had like 150. That is sufficient to nuke the capitals and main production cities of pretty much any military alliance or nuke the hell outta any one country no matter how big. But nuke all the capitals of the world and its industrial hub ?i dunno if 150 does the job.

All i know is that forget the earth, Russia has enough nukes to turn every rocky planet in this solar system into glass.
That means mercury, venus AND mars. lulz.

Check our annual fissile production.

We have approximately 172 warheads as of 2024 and up to 2,686 nuclear weapons as per some estimates from 2016.

https://thebulletin.org/2018/11/estimating-indias-nuclear-weapons-producing-capacity/