Shatrubodh: The Forgotten Doctrine of Civilizational Vigilance (1 Viewer)

[swesh Annonamys Sanatani]

Ancient practice to understand modulus operandi of enemy

 

[swesh Annonamys Sanatani]

As Hindus, we’ve forgotten both शास्त्रबोध | Shaastra bodha (knowledge of our shaastras/scriptures, and for me, it is also knowledge of our history) and शत्रुबोध | Shatru bodha (being able to distinguish who is a true friend and who is not).

The following three revelations taught me both. As always, I have tried to provide references for each.

My first revelation was about Swastika, a symbol of well-being and auspiciousness not just for the Hindus but many ancient cultures around the world. An excellent, well-researched documentary1 taught me that this word was appropriated by someone who translated Hitler’s autobiography into English. Hitler or the Nazis NEVER used the word Swastika, but instead, the word they had for their symbol of hate and terror was Hakenkreuz. The correct translation of this word in English is “Hooked Cross.” This was a Shaastra bodha for me, a history lesson that should have been taught in school but was not and is still not part of history lessons today.

The second revelation was about these Western scholars who claimed to have dedicated their lives to the study of Sanskrit and Hindu scriptures. At first, I thought this was quite admirable, given that they came from a very different culture and all that! But, around this time, I started listening to Rajiv Malhotra ji’s talks2 and got his books, and something he said struck me. He said scientists also spend their lives studying viruses and bacteria, but it is not to help them grow and thrive but to find ways to kill them. This was my Shatru bodha, realizing that the intent behind an action, however glorious that action may seem, is most important and decides if an action is good or not.

The third revelation was when the caste monster loomed on the horizon. As the pandemic hit, I saw narratives being projected of Hindus being this casteist, discriminatory, regressive people and culture and how the entire faith needs to be dismantled. There was even a three-day conference3 held on the topic, and caste laws and policies were mushrooming across the country! This was my Shaastra bodha as I sought to understand if any of our scriptures really are discriminatory. It was also a Shatru bodha, showing me that the enemy is not always an outsider but, more often than not, one of us. Many of those speaking in favor of the caste laws and even at the conference calling for the dismantling of Hinduism were so-called Hindus themselves!

As the Devataas would have it… I prefer this to the usual “as luck would have it” because luck seems totally random, whereas the thought of our Devataas guiding and protecting us and being in control seems more comforting! So, as the Devataas would have it, I happened to attend a Samskrita Bharati workshop and fell in love with Sanskrit! I owe a lot to the kind and patient teachers of Samskrita Bharati, especially with a lazy and slow student like me!

Hindu Dharma has Advaita Vedanta as its foundation that teaches सर्वं खल्विदं ब्रह्मन्; there is the same one divinity in every being, how then can such a faith be discriminatory? Yes, there were, are, and will always be people behaving badly and discriminating against each other, but that cannot be blamed on Hindu Dharma, just as we cannot blame colonization, slavery, or racism on any faith!

Reading some of our scriptures like the Jnaneshwari (which is a commentary on the Geeta by Sant Jnaneshwar), Valmiki Ramayan, and Vyasa Mahabharata, not only did I find no mention of any discrimination on any grounds, but on the contrary, saw a beautiful agreement of the same Advaitic principles found in the Upanishads! There was the same thread of thought of the one manifesting as many from the ancient Upanishads to the simple yet beautifully profound poetry of the many saints Bharat has been blessed with! Maharashtra is especially blessed with a rich Sant parampara with saints belonging to all jaatis. The Varkari sampradaya4 exemplifies and is a testament to these teachings of unity.

But how do we address the problems that seem to keep growing bigger every day? What can we do about these? There are many ways in which we can contribute yatha shakti, as per our capabilities. Here are 4 things you can do:

Get involved with your local schools and town administration, understand the process, reach out to your representatives, and communicate the problems we face; run for office if you can!
Pay attention to what is taught in schools in the social studies and world history classes and not just the STEM subjects we only seem to care for! Engage with your schools, start a dialog, and provide them with the correct information about all these topics.
Reconnect with your shaastras. That does not necessarily mean we all need to learn Sanskrit, although nothing like it if you can! But it is not required as there are plenty of good, authentic translations available for free on the internet, as well as many very low-cost publications from excellent publishers like Gita Press5!
Volunteer and contribute via time, effort, and donations to one or more organizations working hard on the three action items above. There are many organizations doing very good work, but this is still a very small percentage of Hindus who are aware and active. Combating Hinduphobia requires the entire community to be involved and invested, and help is needed in every area, from research to data entry and even simply forwarding information to friends and family, which most of us can definitely do!

I’ll end with two of my favorite verses, the first is by Samartha Ramdas Swami who was a spiritual guru and political advisor to Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj:

केल्याने होत आहे रे आधीं केलेंच पाहिजे । यत्न तो देव जाणावा अंतरीं धरितां बरें ॥

It’ll happen if you start doing, know that God is in the doing of the work, in the effort, if the intent is pure and for the greater good, that is, for Dharma.

The second is a shlok from the second adhyaaya of the Bhagvad Geeta:

नेहाभिक्रमनाशोऽस्ति प्रत्यवायो न विद्यते।
स्वल्पमप्यस्य धर्मस्य त्रायते महतो भयात्।।2.40।।

Shri Krishna here is talking of the greatness of Karma Yoga, where every little bit of sincere effort is never wasted, and even a small amount of following such a Dharma will save one from the great fears that surround us.

This to me is धर्मो रक्षति रक्षितः | Dharmo Rakshati Rakshitah!

May the Devataas guide and protect us all on this path of Dharma!

Shaastra Bodha and Shatru Bodha

"Shaastra Bodha and Shatru Bodha: Exploring Knowledge of Sacred Texts and Strategic Awareness of Adversaries in Indian Thought"

stophindudvesha.org

 

[swesh Annonamys Sanatani]

Why do Muslims keep winning against Hindus? An eye-opener
By: Amit Agarwal On: August 1, 2022 In: Analysis Tagged: Adharma, Bakrid, Dharma, ISIS, Islam, sex slavery, Shatrubodh
The article is for making Hindus aware of Shatrubodh as no battle can ever be won until and unless one knows about the enemy. It is not to glorify Islam or mock Hindus. Knowing accurately about the enemy enables you to make the correct strategy and chalk out appropriate tactics. Adharma cannot be fought with the tools of Dharma. Now is the time, after 1300 years, this lesson must be internalised if we are looking to save our civilization. One has to follow the tenets of kutayuddha to defeat an incorrigible enemy who does not fear death. A Russian Commander once said, “How do you defeat an enemy who looks into the barrel of a gun and sees paradise?”

But how do they grow to be fighters and indulge in violence at the drop of a hat? We must understand that Islam is primarily a military and political ideology and afterwards a religious institution. The whole lifestyle of Muslims is geared towards fighting and preparing for combat. Sample some of the most blatant practices of their life, which are nothing but the training sessions for the upcoming battles. Let us look at a few of such important events and characteristics in their lives.

1. Ramzan is a 30 days long festival wherein they fast from dawn to dusk. The festival prepares them for the battles where they must abstain from food for long hours. No other religion urges its followers to endure such hardships for so long. For that matter, Hindus also go through multiple fasts in a year, but at the most, they are for a day only. Navratri fasts run for eight or nine days, but people only abstain from taking anna.

2. The festival of Bakrid is another but most crucial step in preparing for the fight. Herein, Muslims rear a goat like a pet for months, fall in love with it and then, on D-day, sacrifice it by the brutal killing. Their children have to be present while the killing goes on. The animals are slashed at the neck in such a way that blood drains out slowly from their body. In between, the animals remain alive, kick around and cry wildly, and die a painful death in the end.

This activity prepares Muslims for the battles in multiple ways:

The fear of blood goes off and they become accustomed to its spilling from childhood.
The activity prepares them for qurbani of any member for the cause of Islam. Love barely exists here, and the underlying message is that anyone can be slain if he/she is not a proper fit into the larger scheme of things. After a few yearly episodes of the festival, the children grow immune to the sheer violence and it becomes part and parcel of their life.
They get conversant with sharp knives stored in their homes which come in handy during riots.
A few years back, pictures of streams of blood flowing down the streets of Bangladesh on the eve of Bakrid went viral, sending a shockwave of fear and disgust in other communities.

ISIS Cartoons
Hindus, too, once held bali in the temples, but it was stopped due to the influence of Buddhism. However, even after independence, in many Shakti temples, it continued unabated. Of late, due to pressure from animal rights groups that target only Hindus, that too was discontinued. The battle-worthiness for the street fights diminished due to such measures of ahimsa. Cowardice and fear became a part of our DNA. I remember a scene from the TV series Tamas wherein a Hindu boy was asked to slaughter a chicken to make him accustomed to gory violence. Only then could he protect himself and his community.

3. Alcohol or, for that matter, any intoxication is strictly a no-no for them. For any budding or existing fighter, its consumption distracts the mind from the battles. In contrast, Rajput kings were infamous for taking opium to numb the pain. They, however, did not bother to think that the substance was also inhibiting their critical thinking faculty, which was required in the do-or-die battles. Before and after the wars, they drank alcohol to calm their fraying nerves. In the process, they often used to jeopardise the safety of the camps. In 1192, during the second battle of Tarain, Ghori attacked their camps early in the morning when everyone was sleeping after a drinking session in the night. Around 1/4th of his army was slain in the pre-dawn attack and the battle was lost even before it started.
4. Muslims are allowed four marriages at a time and umpteen slaves, concubines and mistresses. Instant triple talaq (talaq-e-bidat) was conceived for this very purpose to have the maximum number of Muslim offspring. In the medieval era, men were encouraged to impregnate as many women as possible. The mindset remains the same. Women have a degraded role and only exist to produce children. That’s why the incidence of rapes in the Muslim community surpasses everyone else. The women have long been used as war weapons throughout the Muslim world. If a Muslim man or woman marries someone from another community, the non-Muslim must convert to Islam by hook or crook. Non-Muslims are only seen as part of the supply chain for wealth and women. For a Muslim man, sex is unlimited. Dying for the cause of Islam makes them entitled to 72 virgins and jannat. For gullible Muslims, the narrative is indeed mouth-watering.


5. Their comparatively casteless society, no matter how regressive, makes one big family, and everyone lives like brother and sister. Five-times namaz at the neighbourhood mosques breeds brotherhood and open communication channels of all kinds. In this network, everyone is either an active soldier or a member of a sleeper cell, to be activated at an appropriate time. An attack on Rohingyas in Myanmar provokes vicious riots in Bangalore and Bhopal. Has anyone ever heard a Hindu protesting for his brethren in another state, city, or even neighbourhood? Muslims normally won’t fight among themselves when a non-Muslim stares at them. In comparison, a Hindu will gladly become a pal with a Muslim to settle scores with fellow Hindu. Umpteen examples of such behaviour are around us.

6. Muslim is only a Muslim. It is his only identity. He/she is beyond any boundaries of nation, region, language or even family and friendship. He lives for Islam and dies for Islam. Nothing comes before it. He can sacrifice anything and everything for its cause. With such a violent mentality, he gets to set the narrative in any country, no matter how much of a minority his community is. In India, the situation is even worse where just 20% of the population bends the remaining 80%. In the USA, at least 33% of people think there is a positive correlation between Islam and violence. (PEW rep
ort).




All these opposing characteristics have resulted in a massive gap in the mindset of both communities. One is a fighter, always looking to subdue the other. For 1300 years, one has believed that the sword is mightier than the pen. In contrast, the other is taught right from childhood to avoid fights at any cost. This other is also told that the pen prevails over everything, including the sword. How wrong the notion is.

With such an uneven playing field, no guesses about the winner.

Written by Amit Agarwal, author of the bestsellers on Indian history titled “Swift horses Sharp Swords” and “A Never Ending Conflict”

 

[Waanar]

Why do Muslims keep winning against Hindus? An eye-opener
By: Amit Agarwal On: August 1, 2022 In: Analysis Tagged: Adharma, Bakrid, Dharma, ISIS, Islam, sex slavery, Shatrubodh
The article is for making Hindus aware of Shatrubodh as no battle can ever be won until and unless one knows about the enemy. It is not to glorify Islam or mock Hindus. Knowing accurately about the enemy enables you to make the correct strategy and chalk out appropriate tactics. Adharma cannot be fought with the tools of Dharma. Now is the time, after 1300 years, this lesson must be internalised if we are looking to save our civilization. One has to follow the tenets of kutayuddha to defeat an incorrigible enemy who does not fear death. A Russian Commander once said, “How do you defeat an enemy who looks into the barrel of a gun and sees paradise?”

But how do they grow to be fighters and indulge in violence at the drop of a hat? We must understand that Islam is primarily a military and political ideology and afterwards a religious institution. The whole lifestyle of Muslims is geared towards fighting and preparing for combat. Sample some of the most blatant practices of their life, which are nothing but the training sessions for the upcoming battles. Let us look at a few of such important events and characteristics in their lives.

1. Ramzan is a 30 days long festival wherein they fast from dawn to dusk. The festival prepares them for the battles where they must abstain from food for long hours. No other religion urges its followers to endure such hardships for so long. For that matter, Hindus also go through multiple fasts in a year, but at the most, they are for a day only. Navratri fasts run for eight or nine days, but people only abstain from taking anna.

2. The festival of Bakrid is another but most crucial step in preparing for the fight. Herein, Muslims rear a goat like a pet for months, fall in love with it and then, on D-day, sacrifice it by the brutal killing. Their children have to be present while the killing goes on. The animals are slashed at the neck in such a way that blood drains out slowly from their body. In between, the animals remain alive, kick around and cry wildly, and die a painful death in the end.

This activity prepares Muslims for the battles in multiple ways:

The fear of blood goes off and they become accustomed to its spilling from childhood.
The activity prepares them for qurbani of any member for the cause of Islam. Love barely exists here, and the underlying message is that anyone can be slain if he/she is not a proper fit into the larger scheme of things. After a few yearly episodes of the festival, the children grow immune to the sheer violence and it becomes part and parcel of their life.
They get conversant with sharp knives stored in their homes which come in handy during riots.
A few years back, pictures of streams of blood flowing down the streets of Bangladesh on the eve of Bakrid went viral, sending a shockwave of fear and disgust in other communities.

ISIS Cartoons
Hindus, too, once held bali in the temples, but it was stopped due to the influence of Buddhism. However, even after independence, in many Shakti temples, it continued unabated. Of late, due to pressure from animal rights groups that target only Hindus, that too was discontinued. The battle-worthiness for the street fights diminished due to such measures of ahimsa. Cowardice and fear became a part of our DNA. I remember a scene from the TV series Tamas wherein a Hindu boy was asked to slaughter a chicken to make him accustomed to gory violence. Only then could he protect himself and his community.

3. Alcohol or, for that matter, any intoxication is strictly a no-no for them. For any budding or existing fighter, its consumption distracts the mind from the battles. In contrast, Rajput kings were infamous for taking opium to numb the pain. They, however, did not bother to think that the substance was also inhibiting their critical thinking faculty, which was required in the do-or-die battles. Before and after the wars, they drank alcohol to calm their fraying nerves. In the process, they often used to jeopardise the safety of the camps. In 1192, during the second battle of Tarain, Ghori attacked their camps early in the morning when everyone was sleeping after a drinking session in the night. Around 1/4th of his army was slain in the pre-dawn attack and the battle was lost even before it started.
4. Muslims are allowed four marriages at a time and umpteen slaves, concubines and mistresses. Instant triple talaq (talaq-e-bidat) was conceived for this very purpose to have the maximum number of Muslim offspring. In the medieval era, men were encouraged to impregnate as many women as possible. The mindset remains the same. Women have a degraded role and only exist to produce children. That’s why the incidence of rapes in the Muslim community surpasses everyone else. The women have long been used as war weapons throughout the Muslim world. If a Muslim man or woman marries someone from another community, the non-Muslim must convert to Islam by hook or crook. Non-Muslims are only seen as part of the supply chain for wealth and women. For a Muslim man, sex is unlimited. Dying for the cause of Islam makes them entitled to 72 virgins and jannat. For gullible Muslims, the narrative is indeed mouth-watering.
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5. Their comparatively casteless society, no matter how regressive, makes one big family, and everyone lives like brother and sister. Five-times namaz at the neighbourhood mosques breeds brotherhood and open communication channels of all kinds. In this network, everyone is either an active soldier or a member of a sleeper cell, to be activated at an appropriate time. An attack on Rohingyas in Myanmar provokes vicious riots in Bangalore and Bhopal. Has anyone ever heard a Hindu protesting for his brethren in another state, city, or even neighbourhood? Muslims normally won’t fight among themselves when a non-Muslim stares at them. In comparison, a Hindu will gladly become a pal with a Muslim to settle scores with fellow Hindu. Umpteen examples of such behaviour are around us.

6. Muslim is only a Muslim. It is his only identity. He/she is beyond any boundaries of nation, region, language or even family and friendship. He lives for Islam and dies for Islam. Nothing comes before it. He can sacrifice anything and everything for its cause. With such a violent mentality, he gets to set the narrative in any country, no matter how much of a minority his community is. In India, the situation is even worse where just 20% of the population bends the remaining 80%. In the USA, at least 33% of people think there is a positive correlation between Islam and violence. (PEW rep
ort).
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All these opposing characteristics have resulted in a massive gap in the mindset of both communities. One is a fighter, always looking to subdue the other. For 1300 years, one has believed that the sword is mightier than the pen. In contrast, the other is taught right from childhood to avoid fights at any cost. This other is also told that the pen prevails over everything, including the sword. How wrong the notion is.

With such an uneven playing field, no guesses about the winner.

Written by Amit Agarwal, author of the bestsellers on Indian history titled “Swift horses Sharp Swords” and “A Never Ending Conflict”

Most of it is true except the ramzan thing.
I live with a muslim and I've seen up close what she does during ramzan. It's some fasting and then binge eating on iftar like there's no tomorrow.
The water fasting till evening is difficult, sure, but I don't know what kind of weak ass men we're raising if they think this is something extraordinary.

I'll put some anecdotal shatrubodh here.

People see suicide bombers and maniacs dying for allah and think their community must be very steadfast in their belief.
It's not.

If their religion starts inconveniencing them (not even life threatening), they WILL drop it.
Most educated muslims just perform their lil rituals. You start asking questions and many of them can't tell you the meaning of Sura Fatiha (the first page of quran). Some may know ayat al Kursi and that's it.

People here REALLY overestimate the faith muslims have in their religion.

You take them out of their echo chambers and they stop believing. Simple but easier to say than do.

Media keeps their faith up and that's it.

Another thing is that the quran is the one undeniable book (hadiths are a literal joke). Anyone who denies a single verse in quran is immediately not a muslim anymore and dear god, the absurdities in it are mind boggling.

Take a single verse in quran and ask them if it's true without telling them it's in the quran and see the nuclear bombs going off in their head as they try to reconcile reality with fiction.
Always use a verse which isn't popular because most of these guys already know the popular ones thanks to media.

Again, the only thing keeping islam alive in India are fake stories muslims tell their children to paint a rosy picture of that pedo prophet (like the woman who would throw dirt on mo when he would pass under her house on the road), straight up lies about other religions (I blame Hindus for not understanding their own religion well btw), foreign support (moral or monetary) and echo chambers.


The biggest advantage Hindus have over islam is flexibility. Islam is stubborn on believing in quran. Quran is the literal word of god apparently so god can't be wrong right?

It's full of denial of evolution, a flat earth, sun literally prostrating at allah's feet, denial of heliocentrism etc.


The biggest hammer to their belief (from personal experience) which sparks serious doubt is assigning physical form to allah.
Apparently, this formless god has two arms on one side and a beautiful shin.

It literally says that the shin of allah will be bared on qayamat and non believers will want to but will not be able to prostrate to it.

Sure, the muslim will speak with bluster and confidence and say "Oh, that's actually a metaphor" to your face but you will see the screws turning in their head later.

Most of these guys haven't read the quran as a whole. Of the ones that have, nearly a percent may have read it with translation.

 

[swesh Annonamys Sanatani]

They have undeniable method to bring people to these echo chembers we don't the system scrutinises our every move to do so

 

[Vikram314]

Why do Muslims keep winning against Hindus? An eye-opener
By: Amit Agarwal On: August 1, 2022 In: Analysis Tagged: Adharma, Bakrid, Dharma, ISIS, Islam, sex slavery, Shatrubodh
The article is for making Hindus aware of Shatrubodh as no battle can ever be won until and unless one knows about the enemy. It is not to glorify Islam or mock Hindus. Knowing accurately about the enemy enables you to make the correct strategy and chalk out appropriate tactics. Adharma cannot be fought with the tools of Dharma. Now is the time, after 1300 years, this lesson must be internalised if we are looking to save our civilization. One has to follow the tenets of kutayuddha to defeat an incorrigible enemy who does not fear death. A Russian Commander once said, “How do you defeat an enemy who looks into the barrel of a gun and sees paradise?”

But how do they grow to be fighters and indulge in violence at the drop of a hat? We must understand that Islam is primarily a military and political ideology and afterwards a religious institution. The whole lifestyle of Muslims is geared towards fighting and preparing for combat. Sample some of the most blatant practices of their life, which are nothing but the training sessions for the upcoming battles. Let us look at a few of such important events and characteristics in their lives.

1. Ramzan is a 30 days long festival wherein they fast from dawn to dusk. The festival prepares them for the battles where they must abstain from food for long hours. No other religion urges its followers to endure such hardships for so long. For that matter, Hindus also go through multiple fasts in a year, but at the most, they are for a day only. Navratri fasts run for eight or nine days, but people only abstain from taking anna.

2. The festival of Bakrid is another but most crucial step in preparing for the fight. Herein, Muslims rear a goat like a pet for months, fall in love with it and then, on D-day, sacrifice it by the brutal killing. Their children have to be present while the killing goes on. The animals are slashed at the neck in such a way that blood drains out slowly from their body. In between, the animals remain alive, kick around and cry wildly, and die a painful death in the end.

This activity prepares Muslims for the battles in multiple ways:

The fear of blood goes off and they become accustomed to its spilling from childhood.
The activity prepares them for qurbani of any member for the cause of Islam. Love barely exists here, and the underlying message is that anyone can be slain if he/she is not a proper fit into the larger scheme of things. After a few yearly episodes of the festival, the children grow immune to the sheer violence and it becomes part and parcel of their life.
They get conversant with sharp knives stored in their homes which come in handy during riots.
A few years back, pictures of streams of blood flowing down the streets of Bangladesh on the eve of Bakrid went viral, sending a shockwave of fear and disgust in other communities.

ISIS Cartoons
Hindus, too, once held bali in the temples, but it was stopped due to the influence of Buddhism. However, even after independence, in many Shakti temples, it continued unabated. Of late, due to pressure from animal rights groups that target only Hindus, that too was discontinued. The battle-worthiness for the street fights diminished due to such measures of ahimsa. Cowardice and fear became a part of our DNA. I remember a scene from the TV series Tamas wherein a Hindu boy was asked to slaughter a chicken to make him accustomed to gory violence. Only then could he protect himself and his community.

3. Alcohol or, for that matter, any intoxication is strictly a no-no for them. For any budding or existing fighter, its consumption distracts the mind from the battles. In contrast, Rajput kings were infamous for taking opium to numb the pain. They, however, did not bother to think that the substance was also inhibiting their critical thinking faculty, which was required in the do-or-die battles. Before and after the wars, they drank alcohol to calm their fraying nerves. In the process, they often used to jeopardise the safety of the camps. In 1192, during the second battle of Tarain, Ghori attacked their camps early in the morning when everyone was sleeping after a drinking session in the night. Around 1/4th of his army was slain in the pre-dawn attack and the battle was lost even before it started.
4. Muslims are allowed four marriages at a time and umpteen slaves, concubines and mistresses. Instant triple talaq (talaq-e-bidat) was conceived for this very purpose to have the maximum number of Muslim offspring. In the medieval era, men were encouraged to impregnate as many women as possible. The mindset remains the same. Women have a degraded role and only exist to produce children. That’s why the incidence of rapes in the Muslim community surpasses everyone else. The women have long been used as war weapons throughout the Muslim world. If a Muslim man or woman marries someone from another community, the non-Muslim must convert to Islam by hook or crook. Non-Muslims are only seen as part of the supply chain for wealth and women. For a Muslim man, sex is unlimited. Dying for the cause of Islam makes them entitled to 72 virgins and jannat. For gullible Muslims, the narrative is indeed mouth-watering.
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5. Their comparatively casteless society, no matter how regressive, makes one big family, and everyone lives like brother and sister. Five-times namaz at the neighbourhood mosques breeds brotherhood and open communication channels of all kinds. In this network, everyone is either an active soldier or a member of a sleeper cell, to be activated at an appropriate time. An attack on Rohingyas in Myanmar provokes vicious riots in Bangalore and Bhopal. Has anyone ever heard a Hindu protesting for his brethren in another state, city, or even neighbourhood? Muslims normally won’t fight among themselves when a non-Muslim stares at them. In comparison, a Hindu will gladly become a pal with a Muslim to settle scores with fellow Hindu. Umpteen examples of such behaviour are around us.

6. Muslim is only a Muslim. It is his only identity. He/she is beyond any boundaries of nation, region, language or even family and friendship. He lives for Islam and dies for Islam. Nothing comes before it. He can sacrifice anything and everything for its cause. With such a violent mentality, he gets to set the narrative in any country, no matter how much of a minority his community is. In India, the situation is even worse where just 20% of the population bends the remaining 80%. In the USA, at least 33% of people think there is a positive correlation between Islam and violence. (PEW rep
ort).
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All these opposing characteristics have resulted in a massive gap in the mindset of both communities. One is a fighter, always looking to subdue the other. For 1300 years, one has believed that the sword is mightier than the pen. In contrast, the other is taught right from childhood to avoid fights at any cost. This other is also told that the pen prevails over everything, including the sword. How wrong the notion is.

With such an uneven playing field, no guesses about the winner.

Written by Amit Agarwal, author of the bestsellers on Indian history titled “Swift horses Sharp Swords” and “A Never Ending Conflict”

excellent article. Apart from the above , our kings and leaders were and are too high on "honor and right way of fighting a battle". I have not read much about how our king used to treat Muslim women in the past, i guess they were treated honourably. What our kings should have done is that they should have burned the women so that they could have not produced more jihadis.
Muslims do not care about honour and shit, they will try any way possible to kill you. We should do the same. No amount of appeasing or talking will sway their mindset.

Muslims of today irrespective of age, gender should be treated as a enemy combatant but hindus are too high on " honour " and 'non- violence". Our philosophy today should be simple " either kill or keep dying" , we should drill this in our children.

Muslims are not some mythical immortal demon. They try to portray themselves as undefeated but Our kings have defeated them , our queen was the earliest one to defeat them. Naika devi defeated ghori and his forces some thousand years ago, Tara bai kept mughals at bay.

Point is you have to kill enough of them and keep culling them at every chance. If they kill one of us we should burn ten of them and then see how they keep quiet and behave.

We did the same in 2002 in Gujarat and see how Muslims most of the time behave nicely here. Yes they build illegal structures and occasionally do some masti but they know if they do some serious shit they know that hindus around them are capable of inflicting more violence then them. That is why whenever they do some patharbazi on our festivals, state quickly comes down on them heavily because GOV know that hindus will burn them down. I wrote about this last year.
Last year in surat during Ganesh Chaturthi, some patharbazi was done, police quicky demolished the houses of patharbaaz in the middle of the night and broke their legs, fearful of hindu retaliation. Mind you it is not some gujjus here in surat who celebrate ganesh chaturthi, hindus from UP, Bihar, MP, MH, RJ, and from other states have their own pandals. This festival is very dear to all of them and they all unite here when mullahs try to do some shit.

My views may sound extreme but this is how i was raised. My family, friends even my society members have same viewpoint.

 

[swesh Annonamys Sanatani]

Fool's hope


It is amazing that Yudhisthir continued to be so kind, generous and filial to the Kauravas despite the fact that they were so undeserving. Time after time, they showed how little they thought of his kindness, and yet, Yudhisthir could not bring himself to be unkind to them. Despite everyone’s advise against it, Yudhisthir kept being nice to the Kauravas because he thought the milk of kindness will eventually transform them into the cousins he always wanted – kind and brotherly. Sadly it was NEVER to be.

Snakes do not change their nature by change of diet and continue to spit venom. Similarly, all the advise of elders, kindness of Yudhisthir and threats of annihilation could not change Kauravas or their nature.

Kauravas took Yudhisthir’s kindness to be a character fault. They laughed at him as a simpleton - publicly as well as privately and still Yudhisthir expected them to change. Kauravas took advantage of his generosity and kindness at every opportunity. They trapped the Pandavas through Yudhisthir’s generous and kind nature on a number of occasions. Yet, Yudhisthir kept making excuses for them, trying to find reason for their unreasonable behaviour. He kept hoping for them to change. Not only Kauravas, Yudhisthir hoped Shishupal, Jayadratha and Kichak would also reform with time. Despite evidence to the contrary, Yudhisthir kept hoping for everyone to improve.

His biggest hope was Dhritarastra. He hoped his uncle would be equitable to him and his brothers. He hoped Dhritarastra would be the father Pandavas lost. His uncle never protected him from his evil sons, nor did he divide the kingdom fairly between Pandavas and his own sons. Even when his uncle called him to a sham game of dice - twice - Yudhisthir had faith in his uncle's sense of fair play. Yudhisthir's hopes were dashed time and again - yet he still had faith ! Even after his uncle's evil plans were laid bare Yudhisthir continued to be kind to his uncle, treating him like his father. Even when he lost all his sons and relatives due to Dhritarastra's greed, he kept his uncle as the nominal "head of state". Even when his uncle squandered Pandava's wealth on his dead brood, Yudhisthir did not check or censor him. His hope - fool's hope - that his uncle would improve proved futile.

Infact, Yudhisthir's faith in all the Kuru elders protecting and safeguarding him and his brothers proved unfounded.

With the benefit of hindsight, we can see how foolish his hopes of changing Kauravas were. Hindsight is a great thing – if only we have it to hand in the present-tence too ! Hindsight is only helpful if we can use it for foresight too !!

Right now, aren’t the western countries doing exactly was Yudhisthir was doing for the Middle Eastern countries ? Aren’t western governments blindly supporting muslim nations that bear them no love what-so-ever ? The more aid and assistance they give these muslim nations, the more vociferous their protests against the western donor nations ! Yet, they keep giving ever increasing amounts of aid

Isn’t India doing the same with Pakistan and Bangladesh ? From the first day of independence, when a train load of dead bodies arrived from Pakistan to India, India knows how much Pakistan hates it. Every time India makes move towards peace with the two Pakistans, some terror attack or border incursion or war is declared from across the border. India’s efforts to give them money during natural disaster are also spurned. And yet, Indian government keeps making peace overtures ! You would think 60 years on, India would have learnt its lessons. But obviously not ! Even with the hindsight of history, India and its politicians haven’t learnt !!

https://www.pushti-marg.net/bhagwat/Mahabharata/fools-hope.htm

 

[swesh Annonamys Sanatani]

The Art of Info-War’: The textbook Hindus need but do not have

Why tech-savvy Hindus continue to lose the information war

Nitin Sawant Nitin Sawant 08/15/2023 Reading Time: 10 mins read


Information warfare, involving disinformation, lies, propaganda, and manipulation, has become a key aspect of modern conflict, especially in cyberspace.

Information warfare is often used as part of soft power and includes propaganda, persuasion, confusion, and deception.

Metadata, which summarizes basic information from publicly available data, plays a crucial role in information warfare.

Hindus have faced difficulties in countering information warfare, and their lack of preparedness has serious consequences.

Hindus need to understand the tools used in information warfare, such as propaganda, the hate pyramid, and the theory of projection, to anticipate and counter the tactics of their adversaries.

Adapting to this changing landscape and controlling the narrative is essential for Hindus to defend their interests in the digital age.
In modern times, information has become the preferred currency of warfare. Indeed, since most of the world’s leading economies are nearly balanced in their armament capacities today, information remains the only source of arbitrage that helps a country, civilization, or culture dominate its rivals and stay ahead of the pack. While we have innocuously termed this weapon as just ‘information,’ in real life, it is more like disinformation, lies, propaganda, rumors, fake news, half-truths, etc. And ever since the battlefield shifted to cyberspace, information wars have morphed into undeclared or invisible campaigns contested entirely through algorithms, narratives, and manipulated media.

Technically, Information Warfare and Influence Operations may be defined as “the deliberate use of information on an adversary population to confuse, mislead, and ultimately influence the actions that the targeted population makes.”[1] Information Warfare is a hostile activity, yet it does not constitute warfare in the conventional sense. It is part of soft power and includes propaganda, persuasion, confusion, and deception. As Sun Tzu says, “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.” Information wars, too, take place without any kinetic violence and operate below any threshold of armed conflict. Unfortunately, though, in info warfare, there are no non-combatants; the entire adversary population becomes a legitimate target.

Metadata is the new oil
It all starts with metadata or ‘data about data,’ which summarizes basic information from publicly available data that can make tracking easier. Metadata is usually the silent weapon in this info war, and the dragnet surveillance media and social-media giants like Google, Facebook, etc. can surprisingly be an endless supply of such metadata to those who want to surreptitiously foment a disruption. However, not all information wars target civilians. For instance, ‘Operation Cupcake’ was launched by MI6 in 2011 to replace Al-Qaeda bomb-making instructions with cupcake recipes. When Al-Qaeda followers searched and went to download 67 pages of instructions for how to ‘Make a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom’ from ‘Inspire Magazine’ – Al-Qaeda’s first English language magazine, the terrorists were instead tracked and fed with a page of cake recipes[2].

Hindus are clueless Info-war victims
Indians – and Hindus, in particular – have always been tech-savvy and proficient with the most advanced technologies. Yet, when it comes to information warfare, they are most baffled, bewildered, and perplexed in their dissemination and response functions. One can understand them getting caught on the wrong foot in an odd case or rattled for a reaction sometimes. However, since this scenario has been recurring perennially and sequentially for a long time, it is evident that the fault lies somewhere within our psyche and has become a liability with serious consequences.

Take the case of the recent violence in Mewat (Haryana State, India), wherein the narrative was set as soon as the first piece of news came in, accusing the Hindu worshippers of provoking the jihadis into violence and suggesting that a crowd of holy devotees was responsible for the death of two Islamist rioters – all the while ignoring the fact that it was a pre-planned strategic pogrom that was meant to cleanse off all the remaining Hindus in the region through violent means. The Islamists’ rampant firing and stone pelting killed two guards and two devotees, trapping thousands of devotees for hours in a temple. Such was the wave of one-sided coverage on social media that even government ministers from the State of Haryana denigrated the Hindu devotees while ignoring the violence of Islamists.[3]

And let’s not forget the Manipur violence where the administration’s effort to restrain the Christian Kuki militants was ignored. The Left ecosystem waited patiently for weeks for that one elusive video that depicted Hindus as perps and Christian Kuki women as victims before raising a media storm that shook the world and held India, hostage. Such was the force of the narrative that despite a counter-video showing Kuki women disrobing willingly[4] to stop the Indian army from arresting the militants, the world shamed India and Hindus worldwide.

And it is not happening only in India. Remember how fake news was deployed by Pakistanis and Islamists in Leicester to generate the victimhood narrative while simultaneously unleashing violence on Hindus? Countless Hindu properties were burned, and in the end, fake cases were filed against Hindus for extremism[5]. Even today, Leicester sits unsteady on a powder keg, waiting for the next round of info-war.

Where do Hindus go wrong?
The fault is somewhere within the Hindu quintessence wherein the Hindu community worldwide is still harboring some old foible or demerit within their DNA, which makes Hindus unable to predict, stop, and counter these information wars.

For starters, Hinduism is based on the concept of ‘dharma,’ and the keynote of ‘dharma’ is the distinction between good and evil. Naturally, the ancient Hindu society justified the preservation of the good at the cost of war. “However, unlike the Christian concept of ‘crusade’ or ‘bellum justissimum’ and its counterpart ‘Jihad’ in Islam, there is no justification in Hinduism for any war against foreigners or people of other faiths.”[6] And since ‘dharma’ stands for safeguarding peace through law and order, the war in Hinduism is advocated only against evil – be it local or foreign. Then again, war can only be fought under the rules construed as a ‘dharma yuddha’ or a righteous war, ensuring that all warfare is formally conducted under a set of humane and fair rules. Unfortunately, info wars are neither fair nor overt. By the time Hindus duly respond with the truth, under their ‘Satyamev Jayate’ contextualization, the fake perception has already traversed several times around the globe, setting a hurtful narrative that barely gets countered in time, as the Hindu response has already missed the trending or viral news-cycle.

Further, the Left-liberal clique has adopted the same underlying principles as elucidated in the crusade or the news jihad of the Abrahamics and heaped mounds of shame on the Hindus, who are left struggling to put out the superficial fires while the core gets horribly burnt. Time after time, we have seen Hindu seers, various Hindu advocacy groups, and Hindu scholars struggling to tackle a manufactured sham of a narrative. In the meantime, the aggressors have already moved on to the next agitprop.

Evidently, the problems are manifold here. It may be that we are still feeling emasculated under the ‘Ahimsa Paramo Dharmo’ yoke. Perhaps, but the problems of Hindus are much deeper than a simple emasculation. There is simply no framework available to the Hindus to help them anticipate, analyze, and avert such info-war skirmishes. At the same time, the Abrahamics and, subsequently, the Left-liberals have refined, updated, adapted, and perfected their game plan for this modern information warfare. The need of the hour is to understand their playbook first.

 

[swesh Annonamys Sanatani]

Anatomy of Information Warfare
For Hindus to understand their enemy, they would need to understand the entire gamut of mechanisms that the Abrahamics use to subjugate their enemies. Three essential and crucial tools come to mind immediately.

The first is ‘The Five Rules of Propaganda’[7], which have been used since Roman times to ensure Western monotheistic domination. Norman Davies has summarized them brilliantly in his path-breaking book, ‘Europe: A History.’

Simplify – Reduce all data to a simple confrontation between ‘Good and Bad’ or ‘Friend and Foe.’
Disfigure – Discredit the opposition by crude smears and parodies.
Transfuse – Manipulate the consensus values of the target audience for one’s ends.
Claim unanimity – Present one’s viewpoint as if it were the unanimous opinion of all right-thinking people: drawing the doubting individual into agreement by the appeal of star performers, social pressure, and ‘psychological contagion.’
Orchestrate – Endlessly repeat the same message in different variations and combinations.
Every single aggression against the Hindus usually follows a combination of these rules. Even the California SB-403 Bill follows the same five rules of propaganda viz simplify, disfigure, transfuse, claim unanimity, and orchestrate, wherein an industrious micro-minority of American Hindus, who instead prefer to be left alone, have been unforgivingly demonized on caste. Ergo, for every set of preposterous claims from hereon, Hindus must weigh every statement from the enemy on this scale of five to determine what is real and fake and figure out their next step in the spin cycle.

Secondly, we must understand the “Allport’s Scale of Prejudice” – the pyramid of hate that goes from Level 1 to Level 5[8]. At Level 1, we have ‘Acts of Bias’ that account for hate speech, ethnic jokes, and insensitive remarks – think of all the gomutra taunts, anti-Brahmin jokes, etc. At Level 2, we get ‘Acts of Prejudice’ that include social exclusion, dehumanization, etc. – this begets stuff like the Left rubbishing Godhra train victims. At Level 3, we get ‘Acts of Discrimination’ that call for denying opportunities and services – like disallowing ‘The Kerala Files’ to be released in West Bengal. At 4, we have ‘Acts of Violence’ that call for vandalization and direct attacks – think of the recent Mewat pogrom against the Hindu pilgrims. All of this leads to 5, where we have ‘Genocide’ – think of all Hindu extermination from Pakistan, Kashmir, or North East. If we go back and place every ugly deed triggered by the info-wars of the Abrahamics in this hate pyramid, we will be surprised to see how it all steadfastly leads to Hindu extermination.

Lastly and most importantly, we must understand their “Theory of Projection,” which entails taking all the unwanted emotions or traits you don’t like about yourself and attributing them to your enemy group[9]. For instance, the Europeans who came from a class-driven society of lords and serfs branded Indians as casteists when the word ‘caste’ itself came from Portuguese, or the Islamist rioters of Leicester, blamed the local Hindus for being Islamaphobic.

These are the three broad tools that have been used against indigenous cultures for over 2000 years now, and the Hindus must be conscious of them before they fall prey to them again. Every regime change, every single genocide by the Abrahamics, and every single case of information warfare can be traced and explained via these three tools. Be it the Bengal famine, the Rwandan massacre, the latest regime-change wars in Iraq, Syria, Libya, or the impending one in Iran. Be it the Leicester violence, the Manipur riots, the Mewat pogrom, or the SB-403 Bill – once the Hindus learn to map every single transgression against them on the enemy’s template, they will be able to anticipate their next move and probably even upstage them.

Is it all fair in love and Info-war?
Having established the ground rules of engagement to tackle the fallout of information warfare, many dharmic practicing Hindus might ask: Will it be fair to delink from the code of conduct our ancestors have so puritanically maintained? Wouldn’t we be stooping to the heinous level of our enemies? What about ‘Sarva Dharma Sambhav’?

And, what about the timeless principles of ‘dharma-yuddha’? Does it not make Hindus lesser people if they forgo the Sanatan code of ethics of war – even if it is just an info war on the Internet? Well, Chanakya begs to differ. The principles of ‘Dharma Yuddha’ are only for the battles against those who fight by the same rules. “Ever pragmatic, he laid down that if the enemy employed ‘Kuta Yuddha,’ the defender was also free to retort in kind. In RK Mookerji’s masterpiece, ‘Chandragupta Maurya,’ we have details of how every warrior in his military force was taught every form of warfare.”[10] It’s high time the Hindus rediscover other forms of combat, especially now that their tormentor is hidden behind a firewall or in another enemy country, marshaling the ground troops online. Remember how the jihadis in Mewat were motivated towards violence by a YouTuber sitting in Pakistan?

Hindus cannot rest anymore by simply outsourcing their protection to the State. They need to move proactively, seize the initiative, and control the narrative from here on. Their enemies are not necessarily fomenting in only the hovels of Mewat; they are gnashing their teeth in the posh streets of Leicester and growling in the first-world ambiance of California, too.

The time to adapt is right here, right now. There may not be an ‘Art of Info War’ in print yet, but then there is Sun Tzu’s ‘Art of War’ who unfailingly reminds you, “To know your enemy, sometimes you must become the enemy.”

 

[swesh Annonamys Sanatani]

Information Warfare and Influence Operations

 

[ezsasa]

apparently focusing on shatrubodh alone doesn't work, it works in combination with swayambodh.
swayambodh is self-awareness.

may be it makes sense, collectively if the defending group does not have collective awareness and agreement on what exactly they are protecting or what's at stake, there can never be consensus on shatrubodh.

will need to explore this concept more.

perhaps this also ties into what i had posted earlier. no matter how much you think you know about the enemy, if you don't know or agree on the strengths and weaknesses about your own fort, shatru will have the advantage,

wanted to write something on these lines for sometime, this one written using grok.
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Your Mind Needs to Be a Fortress


Amid the resolute efforts of Operation Sindoor, where Bharat’s armed forces stand as unwavering guardians of the nation’s borders, a parallel and insidious battle unfolds—one targeting the consciousness of its citizens. This is not solely a military conflict but a psychological war waged by adversaries, notably Pakistan and their allies, to breach your sense of security and destabilize the dharma (righteous order) of Bharat. The Bhartiya Rashtra and its valiant soldiers protect the physical frontiers, but you, the public, are indispensable stakeholders in this struggle. Your mind must be a fortress, steadfast and impregnable, rooted in the eternal wisdom of Dharmic scriptures and the resolute vision of thinkers like Vinayak Damodar Savarkar and Swami Vivekananda. As the Manusmriti proclaims, “Dharmo rakshati rakshitah” (8.15)—dharma protects those who protect it. Yet, a caution must be heeded: do not become so distracted by trivial provocations that you leave the backdoor of your mental fortress unguarded, vulnerable to manipulation over matters insignificant in the grand tapestry of dharma.

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The Silent Assault on Dharma​

Operation Sindoor has illuminated a critical reality: the battlefield extends beyond physical borders into the realm of thought and perception. Adversaries seek to erode Bharat’s unity and resilience through misinformation, fear, and divisive narratives, aiming to fracture the ekatvam (oneness) that defines the nation’s dharma. The Mundaka Upanishad declares, “Satyameva jayate” (3.1.6)—truth alone triumphs. In this psychological war, your commitment to satyam (truth) is the shield that safeguards Bharat’s dharma from the onslaught of deceit.


The public is not a passive observer but a dharmarakshak (protector of dharma) in this silent conflict. Every falsehood you refute, every divisive narrative you challenge, and every act of unity you foster strengthens the nation’s spiritual core. The Bhartiya Rashtra provides the strategic framework for security, but it is your adherence to satyam and dharma that fortifies Bharat’s soul. As Swami Vivekananda asserted, “Strength is life, weakness is death” (Complete Works, Vol. 5). Your mental fortitude is the cornerstone of this sacred duty to protect the nation’s dharma.

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Building a Mental Fortress for Dharma​

To counter this insidious assault, your mind must be a kila—a fortress anchored in the timeless principles of Dharmic scriptures and wisdom. The Taittiriya Upanishad instructs, “Satyam vada, dharmam chara” (1.11.1)—speak the truth, walk the path of righteousness. In an era where misinformation proliferates, this maxim demands discernment akin to a jnani (knower). Verify information, question narratives that sow discord, and root yourself in credible sources. The Bhagavad Gita counsels, “Yogah karmasu kaushalam” (BG 2.50)—excellence in action is yoga. Let your actions in rejecting propaganda reflect this excellence, safeguarding the dharma of truth.


Resilience is the foundation of this mental fortress. Adversaries exploit fear and doubt to weaken resolve, but the Mahabharata reminds us, “Na bhayam vidyate kvacit” (Udyoga Parva 5.33.23)—there is no fear for one who upholds dharma. Trust in the strength of Bharat’s institutions, the valor of its people, and the eternal principles of dharma. Savarkar’s words resonate: “The nation that has no consciousness of its past has no future” (Essentials of Hindutva). Draw upon Bharat’s ancient wisdom to fortify your spirit, ensuring your mind remains a bastion of dharmic resolve.


A caution is imperative: do not let petty distractions—minor grievances or fleeting provocations—divert your focus. The Shanti Parva of the Mahabharata warns, “Kshudram hridayadaurbalyam” (12.139.20)—small weaknesses of the heart can lead to ruin. Becoming overly upset by trivial matters risks leaving the backdoor of your mental fortress unguarded, allowing adversaries to exploit these vulnerabilities with their divisive tactics. Stay vigilant, prioritizing the larger dharmic purpose over insignificant slights.

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The Public as Custodians of Dharma​

The notion that only the armed forces or the Bhartiya Rashtra bear responsibility for Bharat’s security is a grave misconception. Every citizen is a dharmayoddha (warrior of dharma). Spreading unverified information weakens the dharma of unity; allowing divisive narratives to take root undermines the sangathan (organization) that is Bharat’s strength. By upholding truth and fostering unity, you protect the nation’s dharma. The Yajurveda declares, “Satyam brihad ritam ugram” (34.43)—truth is vast and invincible. Let this truth guide you in countering psychological warfare.


Savarkar’s vision of a united Bharat emphasizes collective strength: “A Hindu means a person who regards this land… as his Fatherland as well as his Holyland” (Hindutva, 1923). As stakeholders in this sacred land, your duty is to protect its dharma by ensuring your mind remains untainted by manipulation. The Gita reinforces this: “Uddhared atmanatmanam” (BG 6.5)—uplift yourself by yourself. Elevate your consciousness through dharmic vigilance, but remain cautious not to be swayed by minor distractions that could compromise your resolve.

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A Sacred Call to Protect Dharma​

Operation Sindoor underscores that national security is a shared responsibility, rooted in dharma. The Bhartiya Rashtra lays the strategic foundation, but you, the public, are the soul of this defense. Make your mind a fortress, impregnable to falsehoods and division. The Manusmriti reminds us, “Dharmo vishwasya jagatah pratishtaa” (8.15)—dharma is the foundation of the world’s trust. By protecting dharma in thought and action, you ensure Bharat’s unity and strength.


In this battle for perception, let the wisdom of Dharmic scriptures and the resolute spirit of Vivekananda and Savarkar guide you. “Dharmo hi paramo loke” (Mahabharata, Shanti Parva 12.167.9)—dharma is the supreme principle in this world. Guard against distractions that could weaken your focus, for as the Gita warns, “Samah sarveshu bhuteshu” (BG 18.54)—equanimity in all situations is the mark of a steadfast mind. With a mind fortified by satyam and dharma, and a vigilant eye on the backdoor of your resolve, you become an unbreakable pillar of Bharat’s defense, ensuring the nation stands tall, united, and invincible.​

 

[ezsasa]

Svayambodha and Shatrubodha: Two Wheels of Civilization | Sh. Pankaj Saxena |​

View: https://youtu.be/fKzNXsYH7wY

 

[Waanar]

I don't see Hindus being able to argue against Christians well because they don't understand their theology. The best route for anyone not aiming to be a religious scholar is to go the route of picking out contradictions, fallacies and plain ol dumbassery.
While shatrubodh for Islam requires a lot more muscle, christianity can be beat back by mere words.


View: https://youtu.be/UMKkX8qRHsw?si=CsVjCv-CMoslHFXm

Watch this debate and preferably a few from the guy as well as others like Matt Dillahunty's and Sam Harris. They mop the floor with Christian arguments and make their best debate points sound like incoherent ramblings of a village idiot drunkard.
Posted the above specifically because this is rather funny and I like seeing brown coolies getting humiliated by their overlords.

Talking about lack of Shatrubodh and the need for it is good and all but we need to actually learn the tshatru instead of just talking about learning them.

For your time's sake, I recommend skipping beyond the two hosts talking to each other and to the point where Dinesh finally sits down after giving his monologue and they actually start debating. Nothing much worth hearing before the debate starts.