Chinese Economy Watch

[srev2004]

The path that India chooses is a dead end. The reason is simple. India don't create enough jobs. ～70% of Indians are living in rural area. Indians especially Indian youth don't hate urban life. They just can't find jobs in urban area. Yeah. PRC has the same job problem but totally different level. There is not enough industry to support these people of rural background. Son of India's richest man yeah that fat guy equivalent to Kim Jun un's weight had the most luxurious wedding in th world. Even Modi attended it. This is not gonna happen in PRC. Ultra rich people in PRC are always in fear of CCP's iron fist. However, 99% of ordinary Indians have no consumption capability. To them, consumption is just food and basic necessities. Even basic living necessitiy for the majority rural population are scarce let alone public service due to lack of industry. Everything is imported and expensive for them. Indian currency Rupee constantly in free fall mode. Make in India wants to change this situation. However, Vietnam, Indonesia, Mexico etc are more plausible destination for those factories moving out of PRC. Hinduism is the spiritual hindrance. It's not the fault of religion. It's the division of Indian common value. PRC doesn't have this kind of shit. 99% of Han Chinese are practically atheists. Other religious Chinese Christians,Muslims,Catholic in PRC praise and worship CCP. Young Indian youths hate religious stuff compared to older generation. They believe it's outdated and useless. Hindu fanatics and Islamic extremists fight over if beef is allowed. This is just a joke of course. What I mean is India's policies are lagging behind its young population.

Lol Hinduism is the strength not hindrance. It unifies India and gives Indians a common identity. Additionally, the teachings in Hinduism about parallel universe and quantum mechanics validating that reality in fact is an illusion and that multiple states can parallels coexist proves that science will converge towards Hindu teachings

China adopted individualism and materialism. This is a race to the bottom with no spiritual upliftment with leads to a path of unfulfilled life.

If you ever read up on experiment 25, you know that China’s path is a dead end. Extreme abundance leads to individualistic consumption with no spiritual growth. In experiment 25, a colony of rats were given extreme abundance. The society then evolved into 5-10% of male rats having access to 95% of the women. 90% of males becoming self isolated or turning effeminate or homosexual.

All the women focused on grooming themselves to get the top 5-10%. This experiment was repeated 50 times and each time it reached the same conclusion.

The same applies to human species and you certainly see the drop in Chinese TFr and rise in effeminate men, causing CCp to ban effeminate men.

 

[RocketAndRocketEngines]

Actually, the discussion already there for 20 yrs, at least to me.

There were IDF, India defence Forum, same started age with PDF around 2003 or 2004.

Around 10 yrs ago,India DFI still had some members migrated from there.

During 2004 we were debating topics like:
Will India catch up China in next 10 yr.

Who will have bettwr fighter tech like LCA vs J10.

Who will have bettwr navy and ACs

Who will be IT powerhouse both software and hardware.

......

20 yrs is not sprint, it's long enough at least to China created like 20 yrs gap with India.

I personally believe my nation have better ability to execute the long term plan like OROB, EV transformation, Made in China 2025...

Of couse this is little over blown.

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Under current circumstances, India probably will never catch up with China in terms of economic development unless India gives up Hinduism and related nonsense. India has great potentials but has been dragged hard by internal nonsense for so long. As I said previously, Hinduism is anti-India and anti-Indian people in essence. It's like Islam to Islamic world. It's poison. Indians know Hinduism and Islam are both outdated concept in modern world. Young Indian folks are fed up with these nonsense.

 

[srev2004]

View: https://youtu.be/NgGLFozNM2o?feature=shared

Future of China

 

[srev2004]

If you are aware of this experiment, the population collapse is self imposed because the mothers stop caring for their young. The males become effeminate or homosexual. This was driven by unfettered consumption and individualism. The results were the same across 50 experiments.

 

[srev2004]

Under current circumstances, India probably will never catch up with China in terms of economic development unless India gives up Hinduism and related nonsense. India has great potentials but has been dragged hard by internal nonsense for so long. As I said previously, Hinduism is anti-India and anti-Indian people in essence. It's like Islam to Islamic world. It's poison. Indians know Hinduism and Islam are both outdated concept in modern world. Young Indian folks are fed up with these nonsense.

lol, Hinduism isn’t nonsense. Your whole culture is derived from it.

By the way just visited Sikkim, they love being part of India.

 

[srev2004]

As India embraces Hinduism, it will get stronger. We had 60-70 years of congress bullshit which suffocated and slowed down India’s growth.

 

[srev2004]

Under current circumstances, India probably will never catch up with China in terms of economic development unless India gives up Hinduism and related nonsense. India has great potentials but has been dragged hard by internal nonsense for so long. As I said previously, Hinduism is anti-India and anti-Indian people in essence. It's like Islam to Islamic world. It's poison. Indians know Hinduism and Islam are both outdated concept in modern world. Young Indian folks are fed up with these nonsense.

What is 2% of 20 and 6% of 7?

 

[Azaad]

Actually, the discussion already there for 20 yrs, at least to me.

There were IDF, India defence Forum, same started age with PDF around 2003 or 2004.

Around 10 yrs ago,India DFI still had some members migrated from there.

During 2004 we were debating topics like:
Will India catch up China in next 10 yr.

Who will have bettwr fighter tech like LCA vs J10.

Who will have bettwr navy and ACs

Who will be IT powerhouse both software and hardware.

......

20 yrs is not sprint, it's long enough at least to China created like 20 yrs gap with India.

I personally believe my nation have better ability to execute the long term plan like OROB, EV transformation, Made in China 2025...

Of couse this is little over blown.

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20 years in a civilization which is at least 5,000 years old is 0.5 % of the time.

If you think that all China's got in the past 3-4 decades ever since it opened itself up to western investment & tech are only upsides, why're your masters the CCP openly acknowledging the TFR disaster?

I've also often remarked on those very same forums you've mentioned since 2016 , that this & the next few centuries would be that of China provided it followed Comrade Deng's advice of - Hide your strength, bide your time & keep your head down.

Somehow since the second term of Hu Jintao, Chinese started stirring the pot with multiple neighbors which reached a whole new level when great helmsman 2.0 took over whereas all they had to do was observe how the US went about squandering its good will after emerging as the sole super power of the world with the collapse of the USSR getting involved in wars all across the world.

Yet you opened your hand 3 decades earlier which became glaringly apparent with the Wuhan Virus Pandemic . That one incident blew your cover completely. That day onwards, the world would never be the same again nor wout the rest of the world especially the West loot at China the same way again.

Your problem is you think the West is sufficiently decadent & will collapse in a matter of time. Right on both counts but the catalyst for both will be China as well as the victim. You see the old isn't dead yet unlike what you think nor is the new born. That's one fatal miscalculation the CCP seems to have made.

In to this can be added a lot of other but allied phenomena like your alliances or your friends , you own domestic mfg prowess in a war time, your export & foreign investment based economy now & in a war, etc & in every single metric you will be found wanting.

From our PoV, we're in the best possible spot. For us to rise as a civilization you must fall. Remember this isn't how Nehru or his successors wanted it, it's how the CCP wanted things to be. With the US down but not out , China emerging as its only challenger whoever wins this war will at best win a Pyrrhic victory which is extremely vital from our PoV for later on in the second half of this century , we'd be fighting an existential war which began at least 13 centuries ago for us & has now reached a decisive stage.

We don't want the West or China fishing in troubled waters . Fortunately for us you yourselves are making sure you don't.

 

[RocketAndRocketEngines]

What is 2% of 20 and 6% of 7?

No need to play with numbers. It's pointless. Rupee depreciation will undo all your growth.

 

[Azaad]

Then build a billion more Hindu temples all over India and good luck.

Please go through this wumao's time line . It's bad enough he's spreading propaganda about the CCP but that has now degenerated into active CCP slander against India & Hinduism.

Is this tolerated in this forum? @SKC ; @FalconSlayers ; @Indx TechStyle

 

[srev2004]

Then build a billion more Hindu temples all over India and good luck.

India is the fastest growing major economy. I don’t know why you have your parties in a twist…

Growth in percentage is what matters, from an investor perspective. Growth in percentage translates into higher ROI. Money gravitates towards higher ROI. India has higher ROI than China and this has been the case for last ten years.

 

[srev2004]

It's 2025, son. Propaganda is useless.

I’m happy to light a fire under your ass. You need the same initiation as Rockdog

 

[RocketAndRocketEngines]

I’m happy to light a fire under your ass. You need the same initiation as Rockdog

If you're interested in igniting fire. Visit the following link. I'll update every hot fire test.

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Thread 'Chinese Space Programs - Government & Private'

Apr 2, 2025

China Space Station Tiangong

HELSINKI — China and Pakistan have signed an astronaut training agreement that could see the first international astronaut arrive at the Tiangong space station.

The China Manned Space Engineering Office (CMSEO) and the Pakistan Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (SUPARCO) signed the “Agreement on the Selection and Training of Pakistani Astronauts and Their Participation in China’s Space Station Missions” in Islamabad, Pakistan, Feb. 28, CMSEO announced.

The signing ceremony took place at the Prime Minister’s Office and was witnessed...

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[srev2004]

India has been outperforming China's equity markets since 2000: Report - Times of India

A new report by Deutsche Bank has revealed that India's equity markets have surpassed China's since 2000, delivering one of the highest real equity returns globally. While both India and the US are trading near record-high CAPE ratios, the report suggests their strong growth outlooks and...

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Stock market is not propaganda. It is cold hard facts. Why isn’t China generating higher returns than India if it’s so capital efficient!

 

[srev2004]

Let me dumb it down for you. If I put $100 in India and $100 in China as an American investor, I make more money in India.

To reiterate your perspective, you are asserting that China is more capital efficient than India and Hinduism is impeding India’s growth, then why is India returning higher ROI then China since 2000. Stock markets use ledgers not propaganda or sentiments driven by naratives.

 

[srev2004]

By the way, India overtook China in gold consumption again in 2025z

 

[srev2004]

According to research by Vestian, 2024 reported the highest ever leasing of 70.7 Mn sq ft in India's office sector, registering an annual increase of 16%. Sub-dollar rentals across India’s top seven cities fuelled this momentum, making the country a key outlier in an otherwise subdued global landscape.

Shanghai, Seattle, San Francisco and many Cities in China shrank.

 

[srev2004]

@RocketAndRocketEngines

I’m happy to keep going.

 

[RocketAndRocketEngines]

By the way, India overtook China in gold consumption again in 2025z

Yeah. Gold consumption is a nice example of your mindset. What are these gold used for? Building temples or factories or just for personal savings?

 

[srev2004]

Do you have any rebuttals to why China has a lower ROI than a “Hindu superstitious country” like India since the year 2000?