Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[Brood Father]

What about 3 Kalvari class subs ..is that happening?

 

[abingdonboy]

What about 3 Kalvari class subs ..is that happening?

No idea who this guy is but apparently soon

View: https://x.com/harinderindi22/status/1910893184407777289?s=46



View: https://x.com/harinderindi22/status/1910891296497033398?s=46

Who has woken Modi up? Barley 1 quarter into 2025 and huge deals already moved forward (LCH, ATAGS, Rafale-M) and apparently even more coming this FY (more LCA, P75AS, LUH maybe)

Someone realised time for war may be coming? Taiwan games may not be as far away as some thought? Peace through weakness is a losing game?

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

No idea who this guy is but apparently soon

View: https://x.com/harinderindi22/status/1910893184407777289?s=46



View: https://x.com/harinderindi22/status/1910891296497033398?s=46

Who has woken Modi up? Barley 1 quarter into 2025 and huge deals already moved forward (LCH, ATAGS, Rafale-M) and apparently even more coming this FY (more LCA, P75AS, LUH maybe)

Someone realised time for war may be coming? Taiwan games may not be as far away as some thought? Peace through weakness is a losing game?

7 P-17b class frigates being inducted was already in talks, although 3 more subs are something new.
not sure what has caused govt to become suddenly so focus in induction and procurement, maybe something is brewing or will brew 5-6 years down the line

 

[abingdonboy]

7 P-17b class frigates being inducted was already in talks, although 3 more subs are something new.
not sure what has caused govt to become suddenly so focus in induction and procurement, maybe something is brewing or will brew 5-6 years down the line

Taiwan

 

[Binayak95]

Taiwan

Tiger Triumph is a HADR exercises.

Checks pics: le AMPHIB ops to secure remote islands and retake remote islands.

 

[karn]

Tiger Triumph is a HADR exercises.

Checks pics: le AMPHIB ops to secure remote islands and retake remote islands.

Can you tell us if there is any planning about what to do if the USN abandons/neglects the red sea area in the future.. Is there a way that the IN can or will in the future protect our commercial shipping ?

 

[bakofbakchod]

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  View: https://x.com/NewsIADN/status/1910683162969067700

 

[Azaad]

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1910668493990551789

I didn't get this part. Is the fitting of the AIP module into the INS Kalvari during its MLU / Re fitting not being undertaken coz of the fact that the quality support protocol ( whatever it means ) for the former hasn't been signed off ?

Is this a joke ? Whose responsibility was it to ensure that this was undertaken before the Re fitting exercise began ?

 

[abingdonboy]

Tiger Triumph is a HADR exercises.

Checks pics: le AMPHIB ops to secure remote islands and retake remote islands.

India has next to no genuine amphibious warfare capabilities and it is treated way waaaay down the list of priorities

Step 1 to fix this would be the navy carving out their own combined arms marine infantry force, I cannot think of another serious nation that has the kind of setup that India does with army personnel charged with this role even tiny nations like the Netherlands, Philippines etc all have marine infantry under their respective navies

Just giving army soldiers life vests doesn’t make them marines

This will obviously be a massive financial burden the navy would have to take on but if this was to happen it would a strategic top level decision so that would have to be given

 

[ezsasa]

India has next to no genuine amphibious warfare capabilities and it is treated way waaaay down the list of priorities

Step 1 to fix this would be the navy carving out their own combined arms marine infantry force, I cannot think of another serious nation that has the kind of setup that India does with army personnel charged with this role even tiny nations like the Netherlands, Philippines etc all have marine infantry under their respective navies

Just giving army soldiers life vests doesn’t make them marines

This will obviously be a massive financial burden the navy would have to take on but if this was to happen it would a strategic top level decision so that would have to be given

placing marines under IN would be dilute the focus and expertise from IN's current charter. if and when marines do take off, it has to be standalone IBGs with dedicated marine and air assets. what ever IN's internal processes are, they are working for them in the current configuration, better than the other two.

our three services attend lectures and give so much gyan on interoperability, but yet to be proven how much they can interoperate in battle conditions. we will not know until the next big one concludes, whenever it does.

 

[Blademaster]

India has next to no genuine amphibious warfare capabilities and it is treated way waaaay down the list of priorities

Step 1 to fix this would be the navy carving out their own combined arms marine infantry force, I cannot think of another serious nation that has the kind of setup that India does with army personnel charged with this role even tiny nations like the Netherlands, Philippines etc all have marine infantry under their respective navies

Just giving army soldiers life vests doesn’t make them marines

This will obviously be a massive financial burden the navy would have to take on but if this was to happen it would a strategic top level decision so that would have to be given

We have other priorities to focus on. The IN Marines should be a special branch modeled along the lines of the British Marines. Acquiring amphibious warfare capabilities is very expensive and can derail the IN's other priorities. IN's main strategy is sea denial against great powers and sea dominance against lesser powers and use the land forces to establish ground control with the IN marines providing recon, night raids, sabotage, game changing operations such as taking out critical CCSIR nodes that would greatly impede the operation of enemy forces and key nodes of the kill chain.

 

[abingdonboy]

We have other priorities to focus on. The IN Marines should be a special branch modeled along the lines of the British Marines. Acquiring amphibious warfare capabilities is very expensive and can derail the IN's other priorities. IN's main strategy is sea denial against great powers and sea dominance against lesser powers and use the land forces to establish ground control with the IN marines providing recon, night raids, sabotage, game changing operations such as taking out critical CCSIR nodes that would greatly impede the operation of enemy forces and key nodes of the kill chain.

The U.K. could only afford to focus on niche capabilities because they would piggyback on the US for full spectrum capabilities. Can India expect similar support from the Americans?

 

[Blademaster]

The U.K. could only afford to focus on niche capabilities because they would piggyback on the US for full spectrum capabilities. Can India expect similar support from the Americans?

Indian Navy is not piggybacking the Americans. It is piggybacking on the IA to do the main offensive. IN will acquire the necessary technologies.

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

India has next to no genuine amphibious warfare capabilities and it is treated way waaaay down the list of priorities

Step 1 to fix this would be the navy carving out their own combined arms marine infantry force, I cannot think of another serious nation that has the kind of setup that India does with army personnel charged with this role even tiny nations like the Netherlands, Philippines etc all have marine infantry under their respective navies

Just giving army soldiers life vests doesn’t make them marines

This will obviously be a massive financial burden the navy would have to take on but if this was to happen it would a strategic top level decision so that would have to be given

rising a Naval infantry corps, isn't a financial issues, much like alot of things in with our armed forces, its more managerial than financial

 

[vampyrbladez]

Old design for NGMV



New design for NGMV

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

Old design for NGMV

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New design for NGMV

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only 4 missile tubes ? aren't there supposed to be 8 according to what I have heard ?

 

[Rai89]

Old design for NGMV

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New design for NGMV

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What is the purpose of NGMVs anyway compared to the NGC? Are we just building them to make up numbers?

 

[Gslv Mk3]

That's a Godavari class frigate. Where's this from, BTW?

 

[vampyrbladez]

only 4 missile tubes ? aren't there supposed to be 8 according to what I have heard ?

Not for the NGMV. It is a direct replacement of the Veer Class corvettes.

It has been given more range, tonnage and LM2500 engines for A2AD missions alongside a Destroyer Squadron or to act independently as part of a small Littoral Flotilla.

4x P-15M or 16x Kh-35 becomes 4x BrahMos ER with no onboard helicopter support.

Indian Navy corvettes and their replacements :

• Veer Class (SuW) -> Next Generation Missile Vessel
• Kora Class/ Khukri Class (SuW) -> Next Generation Corvette
• Abhay Class (ASW) -> Mahe/Arnala Class (Anti Submarine Warfare - Shallow Water Craft)
• Kamorta Class (ASW) -> ?

 

[vampyrbladez]

That's a Godavari class frigate. Where's this from, BTW?

From some NPOL video.