Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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Azaad said:
Frankly I don't know what to believe. PIB claims no losses during our air strikes which was for May 8th apparently , as some member clarified.

Air Marshal Bharti has claimed categorically we haven't lost any man or woman behind the wheel. On being asked specifically about loss of our FA he declined to comment.

Martin Baker list isn't updated.

Lt Gen Panag has clearly stated we took losses as per HIS SOURCES.
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Panag is anaapiya. Serious conflict of interest. Believe the opposite of whatever he says.
 
vampyrbladez said:
  • (10th May 2025) Srinagar, J&K (2 x Mirage III/V)

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Someone has mislabelled this collage. This one clearly has drone components. That sphere has previously appeared on internet as part of some Turkish drone, and another pic in topcenter looks like piston engine.

Video screenshot is most likely from your previously verified footage of Mirage3 which showed huge nose cone of Atar engine.
 
crazywithmath said:
The hits were very much real, there are videos of the strikes that have been geolocated since. That there were sniffer aircrafts in the sky is also a verifiable fact (possible precautionary measures?).

The claims of radiation leaks/earthquakes were BS tho (but made for good wartime propaganda). Nukes do not detonate that easily - even the OG guys who made these incidents public did not suggest (potential) raditation leaks. Heck, some like Jaidev Jamwal called a radiation leak 'practically impossible'.

There were actual hits on the Kirana hills, that much is not psy-op and it wasn't even the only nuke facility targeted. There is a reason why Ji called out their nuclear bluff in his speech (something no other Indian PM has done till date).

Alpha Defence guy tried procuring satellite images to check for himself but had to give up cuz nobody wanted to sell the sat images of those specific coordinates (some even explicitly cited a specific US govt directive in their responses). Make of it what you will.
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I never doubted or questioned the hits by us , i can very well see the hills we hit , i was just talking about the nuke leak theory which was sold to us as one of possible reason for de escalation and sudden ceasefire

what shocked and surprised everyone was at 8 am you are doing bombing and 5 pm you announced ceasefire so everyone started making their own spin theory for the reason behind such a sudden move
 
Azaad said:
As per this PIB press release we haven't lost any assets during the air strikes against Paxtan.

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Govt is simply using word play mastery , they are talking about strike on first day on the terror pads they are not talking about the CAP , as per few the losses happened when we were doing CAP and which is why the wreckage is on our side and not in porki side of fence .

lets see how long govt takes to own up for what ever the loss is fighter or UAS or nothing
 
crazywithmath said:
The hits were very much real, there are videos of the strikes that have been geolocated since. That there were sniffer aircrafts in the sky is also a verifiable fact (possible precautionary measures?).

The claims of radiation leaks/earthquakes were BS tho (but made for good wartime propaganda). Nukes do not detonate that easily - even the OG guys who made these incidents public did not suggest (potential) raditation leaks. Heck, some like Jaidev Jamwal called a radiation leak 'practically impossible'.

There were actual hits on the Kirana hills, that much is not psy-op and it wasn't even the only nuke facility targeted. There is a reason why Ji called out their nuclear bluff in his speech (something no other Indian PM has done till date).

Alpha Defence guy tried procuring satellite images to check for himself but had to give up cuz nobody wanted to sell the sat images of those specific coordinates (some even explicitly cited a specific US govt directive in their responses). Make of it what you will.
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radiation leak isnt BS. As i explained before, boron plane arriving has only one purpose in nuclear physics - to smother a meltdown.
No amount of IAEA statements will change this basic fact of physics.
 
Did the one Rafale possibly downed near Bhatinda simply run out of fuel dodging PL 15E and HQ 9 missiles?

Regarding the possible Rafale loss that appears to be supported by imagery, Bronk warns about jumping to any particular conclusions, just as we have done in our previous reporting.

“The fact that a couple of U.S. officials have come out and said it appears to have been a J-10 that was involved in the shootdown of the Rafale is interesting,” Bronk says. “That makes it fairly likely that we’re looking at a shootdown, but it is worth emphasizing that at least two PL-15s found in bits of India, where we know they were firing, doesn’t actually mean the Rafale was shot down for sure. The fact that the engine and the tail seem to be a little distance apart does support the idea that it didn’t just pancake, but it is possible, for example, that they ran out of fuel having spent too much time in afterburner and at low level trying to evade shots and had to eject due to fuel starvation on the way back to base. Or friendly fire, or a long-range HQ-9 shot — although that’s a bit less likely, I suspect.”
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https://www.twz.com/air/chinas-j-10c-fighter-separating-myth-from-reality
 
Yikes! We have crossed more than 660 pages already? Damn now that's an achievement!
Currently, This thread is right now the biggest, stickiest, and fastest moving thread at the moment on DFB.
I simply can't keep up with everything being discussed here though I have read some posts on the more important topics but I still have so many pages to go through and catching up to do.
While I am not someone who is late to the party, I am still don't know everything. I am still not aware of how many losses (The confirmed number and not "claimed") have both sides faced.
I know we have taken out a couple of PAF JF-17s and F-16s and possibly (most definitely) a few of their SAAB AWACS too but have we faced any losses? It's more important to me to know what assets have we lost and what took them down so the next time we are better prepared to tackle our enemy with even less casualities.
It would be great if the fellow members could shed some light on this.
Thank you in advance 🙏🏻
 
Captscooby said:
Govt is simply using word play mastery , they are talking about strike on first day on the terror pads they are not talking about the CAP , as per few the losses happened when we were doing CAP and which is why the wreckage is on our side and not in porki side of fence .

lets see how long govt takes to own up for what ever the loss is fighter or UAS or nothing
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People will not believe the govt even if they say categorically that they didn't lose any AF, they will believe they did just because they do not deny. Apart from a detailed half an hour show-and-tell with wreckages people will not be satisfied and will look to split hairs and engage in semantics. It's not important anyway, people are behaving as if lives are less valuable than fancy hardware.
 
samsaptaka said:
But isn't there a final solution ?
Let me outline one (it doesn't mean our babus have the 🏀🏀 to implement it)
Once we have destroyed their airforce and achieved air superiority, the PN and army can be targetted at will from the air and destroyed. (nukes are taken out like Kirana, rest are taken over by US).
Then we drop a few bums on local pakjabi awaam, resulting in internal rioting and destabalization, split porkistan into Sindhudesh, take over hindu majority areas, Baluchistan is independent by now, take over GB, sulla population should be subjected to raleev galeev that they did on KPs, so either driven out into the rump pork state or ghar waapsi done.
Will take phenomenal guts as a leader to do this no doubt and a 5yr time period?
But doesn't mean there are no final solutions.
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What will you do if millions head to the fenced IB? I am not refuting you just asking you if you have thought about it, Indian security apparatus has gamed this for a long time. It might happen even if there is a drought induced famine in Sindh and Punjab and the problem is a political/diplomatic one, not military.
 
Captscooby said:
lets see how long govt takes to own up for what ever the loss is fighter or UAS or nothing
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The govt Will not own up to Anything because there is nothing to own up That is too important operationally.

It's Still hilarious that you guys believe Cooked up Stories by MIC lobbies

It has Almost more than a week since There No videos of either the pilot Parachuting or Rafale Seat Jettison were discovered Anywhere

It's hilarious, The point I already Mentioned

In the era of 5G Smartphones With cheap internet And Social media it is impossible to hide the truth

Hell Even DISPR With a North Korea-style curb couldn't Prevent Video leaks from Pakistan

And this is India Where there is an Incompetent IB ministry And Too much freedom
 
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