Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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Pakistan also won the narrative war in 1971
Western media portrayed Pak as a victim of Indian aggression

The point is, in hindsight, how did it help

Victory is decided based on achieving goals mentioned by a nation's leadership prior to the start of hostilities

Indian leadership goals were clear - target the perpetrators (LeT, Jaish camps) and their backers (PAF airbases)

Pak goals were to defend itself from Indian "agresssion" - the goal spectacularly failed, given the satellite images of PAF airbases
 
Looks like Bhajipaos have opened their purses for her. Otherwise I don't see this women ever changing like this .

She has been doing decent for the last few years. Not all of a sudden. Watch his YouTube podcasts. She has totally moved away from crappy politics. She's reasonable now for the most parts.

Not only carrots but sticks have also been applied.

Most of these LeLi patrakars do their propaganda less out of charitable ideology-prem but because of the materialistic incentives and disincentives given.
 
Even if the Indian government begins negotiations for F-35
No chance. The operational freedom, the wide access to the aircraft that we demand, will never be agreed to by the yanks right now. Media takes potshots with headlines like "F35 for India" every now and then. Even the F-18SH was never considered, and was probably invited to negotiate the prices on Rafale-Ms. We're more likely to license the Su-57, if that is even a serious consideration. I think it'll float around in OSINT handles / media after Virupaaksha and the related avionics are cleared for the Su-30 upgrade package. Might even explain why the MKI fleet isn't being expanded despite past few conflicts highlighting the merit of heavy platforms. If anything IAF is probably wanting a stealthier Su-30 right about now, post OP Sindoor.
It is far more prudent to expedite the delivery of Tejas MK1A, MK2, GHATAK UCAV, AMCA, and the CATS Warrior. Indigenous weapons are the only true guarantee of strategic autonomy in the event of war.
With enough willpower all of these can get fast-tracked forward. I think if ADA and HAL really wanted to, they could fly Mk2 by this year. Ghatak's success is tied to the Dry Kaveri, but I think it's already being tested with an F404 to validate systems. Warrior is a toss up right now, the watered down variant shown recently is a downgrade in terms of LO and payload. And the HTFE-25 would need to be sorted out for the larger, stealthier variant to fly.​
 


That Navankur Chaudhry aka YATRI DOCTOR is an idiot and anti national. Saw his attitude of using Chinese stuff when tensions were high and he faced some backslash. Later saw his vlogs and I had some doubts on his attitude. Also recently a friend who is a photographer and Kashmir travel lover said Ops Sindoor is a Failure. I REBUKED him for good and many in our friend circle gave likes as no one had spine to rebuke him. He didn't reply again and still in friend list.



So recently Navankur Chaudhry was stuck in some 5th world ghetto African country since he and his Khalistani "traveler" friend were poking cameras everywhere and JAILED for good with other criminals. He was not given food, started tantrums and perhaps got "serviced" as well which he didn't tell. He thought that he is some important personality (influencer my foot) but African security rightly treated him like a criminal. :lol:



He then heavily criticized Indian embassy(INDIA actually) of not helping him. I mean you bloody anti national "TRAVELERS" are poking nose in others security and India is supposed to help you idiots??? I guess Indian embassy rightly turned down his request knowing his background. Every country specially in wars know that these "travelers" are actually SPIES under the garb of traveling.



On the top of it, this YATRI DOCTOR was seen with this new youtuber caught in SPY ring and that too inside Paki Commission. I wonder why he is not caught and interrogated yet. He has been to Pakistan as well and ISI knows how to use them! I wonder if he is even a proper doc or just got fake degree from some 6th world country. :hmm:



Catch him, service him and he will spew some details.
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1. We took revenge of pahalgam attack by bombing terrorist camp . That too in the middle of the city , way inside pakistan . Pakistani themselves have filmed it .

2. We did nt let their counter get success . All those claim of brahmos storage getting destroyed , s400 getting destroyed is based on " trust me bro " . Satellite image does nt show anything .

3 . we destroyed many of their radars , folowing bombing of air bases and so on . Let's not forget that unofficial kirana and that command center after intercepting that missile .

Our objectives are all met and we went beyond it .. But if paki says bruh we downed 10 fighter jets 🤣🤣 and forced you to surrender , so be it .. Let us keep winning the real battle and let them do the rafale vs j10 , paki pilot vs indian pilot and so on .. We all have faced those kind of kids in school who act like nothing happened when you slap them but later their mother comes knocking at your door .
 
That Navankur Chaudhry aka YATRI DOCTOR is an idiot and anti national. Saw his attitude of using Chinese stuff when tensions were high and he faced some backslash. Later saw his vlogs and I had some doubts on his attitude. Also recently a friend who is a photographer and Kashmir travel lover said Ops Sindoor is a Failure. I REBUKED him for good and many in our friend circle gave likes as no one had spine to rebuke him. He didn't reply again and still in friend list.



So recently Navankur Chaudhry was stuck in some 5th world ghetto African country since he and his Khalistani "traveler" friend were poking cameras everywhere and JAILED for good with other criminals. He was not given food, started tantrums and perhaps got "serviced" as well which he didn't tell. He thought that he is some important personality (influencer my foot) but African security rightly treated him like a criminal. :lol:



He then heavily criticized Indian embassy(INDIA actually) of not helping him. I mean you bloody anti national "TRAVELERS" are poking nose in others security and India is supposed to help you idiots??? I guess Indian embassy rightly turned down his request knowing his background. Every country specially in wars know that these "travelers" are actually SPIES under the garb of traveling.



On the top of it, this YATRI DOCTOR was seen with this new youtuber caught in SPY ring and that too inside Paki Commission. I wonder why he is not caught and interrogated yet. He has been to Pakistan as well and ISI knows how to use them! I wonder if he is even a proper doc or just got fake degree from some 6th world country. :hmm:



Catch him, service him and he will spew some details.
:gtfo:
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See NIA needs substantial proofs to put these guys in jail. Our laws are rather horrible when it comes to giving these spy danda treatment. NIA can arrest him anyday but then the court will ask for proof. NIA can provide some proof but if the court doesn't like it, they will let him go. Don't forget we live in a country where a terrorist who is in jail fought an election & is an MP.
 
1. We took revenge of pahalgam attack by bombing terrorist camp . That too in the middle of the city , way inside pakistan . Pakistani themselves have filmed it .

2. We did nt let their counter get success . All those claim of brahmos storage getting destroyed , s400 getting destroyed is based on " trust me bro " . Satellite image does nt show anything .

3 . we destroyed many of their radars , folowing bombing of air bases and so on . Let's not forget that unofficial kirana and that command center after intercepting that missile .

Our objectives are all met and we went beyond it .. But if paki says bruh we downed 10 fighter jets 🤣🤣 and forced you to surrender , so be it .. Let us keep winning the real battle and let them do the rafale vs j10 , paki pilot vs indian pilot and so on .. We all have faced those kind of kids in school who act like nothing happened when you slap them but later their mother comes knocking at your door .
Yeah, after all, what can India do if Pakistan declares victory regardless of the outcome? No matter how badly they are defeated, they will always celebrate as if they’ve won. Denial is deeply ingrained in their culture and society
 
Even Palestine has won the narrative war. But everyone knows what is the condition on the ground.
No Palestine didn't win 😂 There are Israeli bots, content creators, writers being heavily funded working within social media, mainstream media, even telegram consistently peddling their narratives worldwide. They spend heavily on Media. Moreover Israel has achieved things on the ground to see.
Petty politics of Rahul Gandhi/moral victory is way different than winning war/skirmish or even claiming to win it. It will be written in the history books & will have geopolitical implications. You need to counterbalance with proof, narratives even in your worst times. We know what happened but the next generation will probably not. How do you think Congress eliminated Hindu history?
 
Pakistan also won the narrative war in 1971
Western media portrayed Pak as a victim of Indian aggression

The point is, in hindsight, how did it help

Victory is decided based on achieving goals mentioned by a nation's leadership prior to the start of hostilities

Indian leadership goals were clear - target the perpetrators (LeT, Jaish camps) and their backers (PAF airbases)

Pak goals were to defend itself from Indian "agresssion" - the goal spectacularly failed, given the satellite images of PAF airbases

1971 was a different story since we created a new nation and the results were there for everyone to see,

In 2025, we pummeled them but no permanent damage that they cant recover from in a few weeks. Craters on the runways can be fixed. I only wish we had caused large scale damage to PAF hardware either parked on the runways/hangars or in the air. Anything material in the Pak airspace should have been shot down. In theory, the S400 can see anything that can fly while it's still taking off from the runway. This asymmetry should have been fully exploited.

Destruction of Karachi port by sinking a few ships in the harbor would mean long time decommissioning which should have been done. Pak ISPR will still dwell in alternate reality, but the damage done would have been material.
 
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In Pakistani dossier, against India, Pakistan cited media outlets, journalists & experts from India:

1. The Wire
2. Siddharth Varadarajan
3. Radha Kumar
4. Ajai Shukla
5. Karan Thapar
6. Satyapal Malik
7. Sanket Upadhyay
8. Rahul Pandita
 
It's a proper intel failure for sure. I used to mock liberals a few days after the Pahalgam massacre when they tried to make it seem like the government's fault while ignoring the underlying malice existing within the terrorist state next door. The latter part is still unequivocally true and has always been but it's farcical that we haven't found the other 3 absolute subhumans responsible for the deaths of so many innocent civilians for being Hindus. Makes you think about the kind of infrastructure existing to facilitate the quiet and safe passage of these terrorists despite said terrorists having jeopardized the economy of the region for a whole tourist season. I hope the memory of the victims and the need to avenge their killers isn't forgotten in the hue and cry of Operation Sindoor.
Intel failures happen. A dozen US soldiers were blown up in a suicide bomb blast while hurriedly leaving Talibanistan. In that case they had Intel too that a blast was possible but the exact location was hard to determine. Simply having intelligence about a possible strike is not enough in a large country like India. Locations are needed. Unless we figure out a way to decrypt all the terrorist’s communications in real time and place moles within terror groups, it is impossible to learn that. Not even Mossad can pull it off. What Mossad does is build surprise measures that kill comms like the pager explosions of Hezbollah. We should have quietly tracked down who built the satcom phones for Porki Army and put some pav kilo atum bum in there.
 
The greatest magicians in the world at delaying bankruptcy.


The current tense regional environment likely underpins the government’s proposal, endorsed by its largest coalition partner, the Pakistan Peoples’ Party, to raise the defence budget by 18 per cent for the next fiscal year. The critical question for a resource-constrained country, however, remains: who will pay for it?
 
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