Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

[LETHALFORCE]

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[Ajatshatru]

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I think it was a soft kill, which is why the missile landed intact. This is a significant achievement, as it will now be studied in detail to develop effective countermeasures. Chinese are likely furious with the Pakistanis over this blunder—their top-of-the-line air-to-air missiles is now in Indian hands.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I think it was a soft kill, which is why the missile landed intact. This is a significant achievement, as it will now be studied in detail to develop effective countermeasures. Chinese are likely furious with the Pakistanis over this blunder—their top-of-the-line air-to-air missiles is now in Indian hands.

Pakistanis were complaining to the chinese that their weapons were shit and it costed them dearly.
chinese told them they were too stupid to use them the weapons worked just fine. Beggars can't be choosy.

 

[Ajatshatru]

Pakistanis were complaining to the chinese that their weapons were shit and it costed them dearly.
chinese told them they were too stupid to use them the weapons worked just fine. Beggars can't be choosy.

Chinese reverse-engineered an American Tomahawk missile that landed in Vietnam—now, ironically, their crown jewel, their best air-to-air missiles, has fallen into Indian hands. perfect opportunity to uncover its weaknesses and gain insights that could help make India’s own air-to-air missiles even more lethal.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Chinese reverse-engineered an American Tomahawk missile that landed in Vietnam—now, ironically, their crown jewel, their best air-to-air missiles, has fallen into Indian hands. perfect opportunity to uncover its weaknesses and gain insights that could help make India’s own air-to-air missiles even more lethal.

Tomwahawk was not an air to air missile. It was a cruise missile.

Indian equivalent of PL-15E would be Astra-3 (SFDR) anyway.

 

[Ajatshatru]

Afaik Indian equivalent should be astra mk2

Astra MK2 has a range of 160km, PL-15E - 145km, PL-15 (not for export) - 200km
Astra MK3 range - 340km

 

[username unkown]

Astra MK2 has a range of 160km, PL-15E - 145km, PL-15 (not for export) - 200km
Astra MK3 range - 340km

Pl 15 is dual pulse rocket same as astra mk 2
Astra mk 3 or gandiva is sfdr solid fuel ducted ramjet sometihing similar to meteor huge diff btw astra mk3 and pl 15

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Chinese reverse-engineered an American Tomahawk missile that landed in Vietnam

The tomahawk was from afghanistan ; one landed unexploded they got it sent it to
china to reverse engineer. Tomahawk is a cruise missile , PL-15E is a air -air missile.

 

[samsaptaka]

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I don't think we shot down a PL15 did we ? It was either a failed launch or shot down PAF aircraft.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I don't think we shot down a PL15 did we ? It was either a failed launch or shot down PAF aircraft.

It failed to work . IT was all hype . The missile was on many other planes none of
them achieved any military objective. Except attack religious places like GOLDEN TEMPLE.
Khalistanis take note.

 

[Cheepek]

The India-Pakistan Conflict Is Testing the Threshold for Nuclear War
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...pakistan-test-limits-of-nuclear-war-deterrent

 

[Ajatshatru]

I don't think we shot down a PL15 did we ? It was either a failed launch or shot down PAF aircraft.

It failed to work . IT was all hype . The missile was on many other planes none of
them achieved any military objective. Except attack religious places like GOLDEN TEMPLE.
Khalistanis take note.

I think the missile was jammed by an electronic warfare aircraft, which is likely why it landed intact without even detonating.

 

[Ajatshatru]

The India-Pakistan Conflict Is Testing the Threshold for Nuclear War
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...pakistan-test-limits-of-nuclear-war-deterrent

In the event of an India-Pakistan war, Pakistan’s nuclear installations will be the first targets. risk of a nuclear exchange is zero—Pakistan is neither United States nor Russia, and it lacks the capability to fsafeguard its nuclear assets from Indian strikes. Launching a nuclear missile is not as simple as pressing a button.

 

[indrajit]

I think the missile was jammed by an electronic warfare aircraft, which is likely why it landed intact without even detonating.

I think that the Pakistanis were so petrified of Indian air defenses and the S-400 that they were shooting from very long distances. I don't think the Chinese will be too happy about that.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

In the event of an India-Pakistan war, Pakistan’s nuclear installations will be the first targets. risk of a nuclear exchange is zero—Pakistan is neither United States nor Russia, and it lacks the capability to fsafeguard its nuclear assets from Indian strikes. Launching a nuclear missile is not as simple as pressing a button.

many countries with advanced nuclear weapons programs do not keep their missiles
and warheads mated they are stored separately; not 1-2-3 ready to go they usually follow
a strict protocol. Most of the time they are stored in different locations.

 

[Nicky]

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One more reason why Chini were eager for the conflict to stop. The longer it dragged on, more Chini weapons would be uncovered as cheap copies dud.

Chinese military innovation are virtually zero. I don't really beleive they have genuine 5th gen fighter jet unless it's capabilities are demonstrated in battle.

US interest was preventing drowning more of their F16 and making sure Porkies nuclear bluff is not called for good.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

One more reason why Chini were eager for the conflict to stop. The longer it dragged on, more Chini weapons would be uncovered as cheap copies dud.

Chinese military innovation are virtually zero. I don't really beleive they have genuine 5th gen fighter jet unless it's capabilities are demonstrated in battle.

US interest was preventing drowning more of their F16 and making sure Porkies nuclear bluff is not called for good.

They are the cheap counterfeit capital of the world and the weapons are exactly made
the same way.

 

[Ajatshatru]

many countries will advanced nuclear weapons programs do not keep their missiles
and warheads mated they are stored separately; not 1-2-3 ready to go they usually follow
a strict protocol. Most of the time they are stored in different locations.

It’s not feasible to keep nuclear missiles in a constant state of readiness—what if one is launched accidentally, or falls into the hands of non-state actors? what if someone manages to detonate it right at the launch site?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

It’s not feasible to keep nuclear missiles in a constant state of readiness—what if one is launched accidentally, or falls into the hands of non-state actors? what if someone manages to detonate it right at the launch site?

no mature nuclear power does this ; it is a major clue that pakis MAY NOT HAVE NUKES.
When they make threats that their nukes are all stored in one place ready to go. No real
nuclear power acts like this.

 

[Nicky]

no mature nuclear power does this ; it is a major clue that pakis MAY NOT HAVE NUKES.
When they make threats that their nukes are all stored in one place ready to go. No real
nuclear power acts like this.

Additionally, I have always had the sense that their warheads or the bulk of them aren't minaturized to fit into missiles. They are mostly a terrorist groups with dirty bombs.