Israel x Iran Conflict (113 Viewers)

[Waanar]

I support Israel over Iran for the main reason that they are very useful for our nation in terms of training, intelligence, munitions and ToT for weapon systems, aside from the emotional reason that they clap greens just how they deserve when nobody else seems able to.

Meanwhile, even if you ignore the rabid mulla behaviors of the IR regime of Iran, they are useless to us by comparison, as i've mentioned before even Chabahar port which is their only saving grace, is in danger with their treacherous behavior viz the Chong, they are not reliable at all, neither do we have any common cause with them.
Another example is them gifting Kulbhushan to the Bakistanis.

Now the current model of "Ajay Devgan Doing Split" diplomacy is alright but if we have to choose, Israel is a no brainer, the benefits that they provide are too damn high compared to half assed and obviously forced co-operation by these irani mullas

Agreed but I've noticed people start losing nuance here.

"Oh Iranians are bad so Iranians are the worst. Wait, the jews are bad? THEY MUST BE THE WORST NOW!"

None of them are your nephew. None of them care for you. It's only about the transaction and as Trump would put it, the art of the deal.

What I've noticed is, due to a mix of trying to copy the American alt right and (justified) backlash against extreme fanboying, people here have started to talk like Israelis are just waiting for us to turn around and stab us in the back or something. If Israelis had a land border with us or some serious contention or even if Israel was ruled by the two choti, hat wearing orthodox jew who believes goys are meant to serve his ass, I would be VERY suspicious of them but some guys here are halfway through in believing shit like adrenochrome and jews eating living babies or some shit.

Act normal, have nuance, be a functioning human being. Don't act like a 4chan incel who finds conspiracy in everything. But no.
It's getting annoying at this point.

This reverse occam's razor of "The most complicated and conspiratorial answer must be the correct one" attitude of some guys here is getting on my nerves.

Any EXTREMIST Islamic REGIME specially siding with Pakis on Kashmir issue is not in our favor.

Post Mulla regime, India-Iran can continue their transactional business as usual. Remember India has economic interests in Iran specially ports. India managed to get waiver for this since countries backing Iran also have to face sanctions. India has diversified it's OIL/Gas needs with Russia and can do more with other Arab nations.

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Meanwhile 5 car blasts killing more nuclear scientists aka "Abdul Qadeer" are sent to jannat to continue their uranium enrichment projects. Total 14 "Abdul Qadeer" of Iran are sent below 6 feet.
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This proves nothing. Iran is better for India because have you heard what a suburban dwelling white incel says about Jews on 4chan?
Obviously, Iran is better for us as an ally.

 

[Waanar]

Iran sold out Kulbhushan Jadhav to Pakistan? False and utter lie.
It is Iran whose help you are taking in operating in Pakistan and Afghanistan and doing clandestine things.

ISIS is Israel. Whole Manipur Kuki project is Israel.

Foreign Minister's Statement On Kulbhushan Jadhav In Parliament Today

External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar will make a statement in Parliament today about the International Court of Justice or ICJ's verdict on the Kulbhushan Jadhav case.

www.ndtv.com

Iran’s silence on Jadhav baffling

While balancing ties with India and Pakistan, Tehran is unhappy over Delhi’s growing ties with GCC

www.thehindu.com

Read the above.
Unless you think the foreign ministry is lying, it's pretty clear what happened.
As of yet, none of you are exactly producing any proof about ISIS being israeli handiwork so I'm not going to bother with it and consider it some third class conspiracy theory as reliable as aliens abducting Michael Jackson.

I haven't been keeping up with NE too much. The Manipuri Kukis have Israeli backing?

 

[assassin162]

One needs to be judged by the actions not mere words. What is the role of Kashmiri shias who for all the practical purposes view Iranian leaders almost as if they are their Imams?

What Iran says, doesn't gets reflected in its actions.

Role of shias in Kashmir and role of Kukis in Manipur is right there for the whole world to see. If words matter more to you then the actions, geopolitics is not for you.

 

[Cheepek]

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[assassin162]

Foreign Minister's Statement On Kulbhushan Jadhav In Parliament Today

External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar will make a statement in Parliament today about the International Court of Justice or ICJ's verdict on the Kulbhushan Jadhav case.

www.ndtv.com

Iran’s silence on Jadhav baffling

While balancing ties with India and Pakistan, Tehran is unhappy over Delhi’s growing ties with GCC

www.thehindu.com

Read the above.
Unless you think the foreign ministry is lying, it's pretty clear what happened.
As of yet, none of you are exactly producing any proof about ISIS being israeli handiwork so I'm not going to bother with it and consider it some third class conspiracy theory as reliable as aliens abducting Michael Jackson.

I haven't been keeping up with NE too much. The Manipuri Kukis have Israeli backing?

Google Jaish Al Adl..
Google Moolah Omar Irani....
Google Iran vs Jaish Al Adl

Pak 'Scholar' Behind Kulbhushan Jadhav Kidnapping Shot Dead In Balochistan

A Pakistani "scholar" accused of helping Pakistan's ISI spy agency in kidnapping former Indian Navy officer Kulbhushan Jadhav from Iran, was shot dead by unidentified gunmen in the restive Balochistan region on Friday night.

www.ndtv.com

Why is India killing Mullah Omar Irani for kidnapping Kulbhushan, associated with a terrorist organisation that operates against Iran??

If Indian Mujaheedin kills any Jew, that means India killed the Jew?

 

[Physx32]

How short term the memory of Public really is, that too of so called defence and strategy analysts. The country which propped up and supplied ISIS is now being hailed as the most preferred partner of India and Indians. Seems some among us have it worse than Amir Khan from Ghajni.
Also, they have completely erased from memory the sheer amount of men and machinery Russia and Iran sent to decimate ISIS.
Now Israel is the hero. Irony died many deaths.

Also include the Turkroaches, Qatar and Gulf monarchies under the blessing of Uncle. It's not a black and white "X propped up ISIS" scenario. Many countries were involved.

While Turkey and Qatar did the ground work (like logistics, finance, recruitment) the inception of this idea came from CIA/Mossad (my belief anyway, may be incorrect as nobody knows the truth).

Anyways, global powers will keep on using greens against greens to fulfill their objectives. We also need to get into this game seriously to neutralize the green to our west.

 

[Waanar]

One needs to be judged by the actions not mere words. What is the role of Kashmiri shias who for all the practical purposes view Iranian leaders almost as if they are their Imams?

What Iran says, doesn't gets reflected in its actions.

Role of shias in Kashmir and role of Kukis in Manipur is right there for the whole world to see. If words matter more to you then the actions, geopolitics is not for you.

Its not about words, its about proof. India collapsing serves China well but we won't simply say "China is supporting Naxals" without any proof of it. Sure they're communists with a common goal but what is the proof?
Just because two parties are aligned doesn't mean they're supporting each other.

Again, I hate Kukis with a passion and I'll hate Israel with a passion if they have but you have to show something which proves it. Merely saying "it is right there for the whole world to see" out loud won't make it true.
What exactly is the whole world seeing?
I'm convinced US is backing the Kukis at some level because of the Free Burma Rangers and Americans trying to make a humanitarian corridor through Bangladesh to the Rakhine State but I'm talking in proof, you guys are being super vague.

 

[Waanar]

Google Jaish Al Adl..
Google Moolah Omar Irani....
Google Iran vs Jaish Al Adl

Pak 'Scholar' Behind Kulbhushan Jadhav Kidnapping Shot Dead In Balochistan

A Pakistani "scholar" accused of helping Pakistan's ISI spy agency in kidnapping former Indian Navy officer Kulbhushan Jadhav from Iran, was shot dead by unidentified gunmen in the restive Balochistan region on Friday night.

www.ndtv.com

Why is India killing Mullah Omar Irani for kidnapping Kulbhushan, associated with a terrorist organisation that operates against Iran??

If Indian Mujaheedin kills any Jew, that means India killed the Jew?

There is no doubt that Iran and Pakistan have their own lines of conflict but when our guy gets abducted from Tehran, not a border region and then Iran refuses to cooperate in the investigation, who exactly am I supposed to blame?

If an Indian Mujaheedin kills a jew, India will immediately jail the guy or maybe even extradite him to Israel. Meanwhile, Iran is trying to halt our investigation. There's a world of difference. If India did try to cover up the murder or protect the terrorist, that would obviously make India suspect. Your comparison is flawed.

Also, you didn't give any proof for Israel supporting ISIS or Kukis.
Kindly oblige.

 

[assassin162]

There is no doubt that Iran and Pakistan have their own lines of conflict but when our guy gets abducted from Tehran, not a border region and then Iran refuses to cooperate in the investigation, who exactly am I supposed to blame?

If an Indian Mujaheedin kills a jew, India will immediately jail the guy or maybe even extradite him to Israel. Meanwhile, Iran is trying to halt our investigation. There's a world of difference. If India did try to cover up the murder or protect the terrorist, that would obviously make India suspect. Your comparison is flawed.

Also, you didn't give any proof for Israel supporting ISIS or Kukis.
Kindly oblige.

Iran didn't jail it's terrorist?? It's like saying India didn't jail Hafeez sayid.
Now prove he was captured from Tehran that you claimed.

 

[silentassassin265]

How are we supposed to deliver weapons to armenia now?
They are landlocked and Georgia and turkey are the neighbours.

 

[Waanar]

Iran didn't jail it's terrorist?? It's like saying India didn't jail Hafeez sayid.
Now prove he was captured from Tehran that you claimed.

Pardon, I said Tehran. I meant Iran. Tehran's on my mind with all the bombings. What exactly do you think would make Iran block our attempts at investigation?
Again, India wouldn't block an investigation if it wasn't aligned. Its so stupid to think that an Israeli embassy staff gets kidnapped by a Pakistani terrorist (not Indian like you wrote in your comment which makes your comparison wholly different, much to your own chagrin) and the first thing India does is block attempts at investigation. There would be immediate and urgent intel sharing and cooperation to get to the root of the issue and maybe get the guy back.

 

[Waanar]

How are we supposed to deliver weapons to armenia now?
They are landlocked and Georgia and turkey are the neighbours.

In peacetime, I think they can receive all of it on their own airports. Wartime would be a funny business.

Is there anything we're selling them which can't be delivered by planes when dismantled?

 

[silentassassin265]

In peacetime, I think they can receive all of it on their own airports. Wartime would be a funny business.

Is there anything we're selling them which can't be delivered by planes when dismantled?

Are sending artillery, pinaka rocket , what.
But even if we fly, how are supposed to reach there without Iran, other countries are hostile towards Armenia and we will require to use their airspace for military transport.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

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[Waanar]

Are sending artillery, pinaka rocket , what.
But even if we fly, how are supposed to reach there without Iran, other countries are hostile towards Armenia and we will require to use their airspace for military transport.

Israelis own Iranian Airspace, they wouldn't block us.

Chadshankar Diplomacy ftw.

 

[assassin162]

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Head of kuki national army PS HAOKIP.

The lost Jews of Churachandpur

Arguing that they are the Bnei Menashe, one of the ten lost tribes of Israel, a section of Kukis wants to emigrate to Israel. But they cannot do so unless they formally embrace Judaism. Prafulla Das reports on the strange predicament of people torn between a contested history and an uncertain future

www.thehindu.com

 

[shauryaman65]

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Rip Tom cruise

 

[Waanar]

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View: https://x.com/ichkipichki/status/1904226494567833908?t=OmA0HCNPMreQIYlhYVhwIA&s=19

Head of kuki national army PS HAOKIP.

The lost Jews of Churachandpur

Arguing that they are the Bnei Menashe, one of the ten lost tribes of Israel, a section of Kukis wants to emigrate to Israel. But they cannot do so unless they formally embrace Judaism. Prafulla Das reports on the strange predicament of people torn between a contested history and an uncertain future

www.thehindu.com

India should talk to the Israeli FM about this. This kind of dual faced bitchery won't fly. What is that cheque though? Israelis paying the group or is it just the organization of wannabe jews of Manipur?

 

[Azaad]

Pardon, I said Tehran. I meant Iran. Tehran's on my mind with all the bombings. What exactly do you think would make Iran block our attempts at investigation?

From what I've read about this incident back then , Fauji Foundation & ISI used the Balochi smuggling network & Jaish al Adl to kidnap Kulbhushan Jadhav from Iranian province of Seistan Baluchistan.

Iranian government was pissed off with India for pushing in our intelligence agency operatives into Iran to target Paxtan. Either they weren't informed about Jadhav or we didn't give them full information about his brief.

That prompted the Iranians to ignore India's repeated requests to co operate in the investigation. On the other hand Paxtan accused Iran of being hand in glove with India to promote terrorism in Balochistan .

In fact I recall reading the then CoAS Raheel Sharif confront the Irani President Rouhani on a tour to Paxtan .

A RAW Row: Did Pakistan Accuse Iran of Abetting Indian Espionage?

Does Pakistan really think that Iran is helping India spy in Balochistan?

thediplomat.com

As always with these events there are no clear cut answers . If we're lucky we may get to know the truth in another 10-20 years .

 

[assassin162]

Intel sharing is there, that's why India killed Mullah Omar Irani, their equivalent of Hafeez Sayeed. Again, actions matter more than words of a random articles headline without any worthwhile fact.

To make things simple. Balochs in Iran are mostly sunnis. There is Sunni terrorist organisation that operates there. To segregate itself from Pakistan Iran is already building a wall.

Now there is Baloch Sunni terrorist organisation that works for ISI, which operates in Iranian part of Balcohistan, which kidnapped this guy from Iran Pakistan border.

Iran to pura chahabar de diya hai, aur aap log uspe ilzam laga rahe ho ki Iran handed over Kulbhushan, jabki Kulbhushan jaise kitne Iran me baith ke operate kar rahe honge, Pura chahabar project hi usi chiz ke liye hai....

Aur Iran dia bhi kisko, ek aise terrorist organisation ko jo aye din Iranian soldiers ko maarta hai?

Aise kaise?

Jaise laal rang dekh ke sandh bhadakta hai, yahan hara rang dekh ke Iran pe bharka ja raha hai pure thread me.

If Iran is out, pura Afghanistan aur Pakistan project apni G me daal lo. Armenia Turkey project apne G me daal lo. Central Asia me America aa jaega, uske bad aur apni marwa lo.

Apna country ka isi chiz me hit hai ki, the situation remains the same between Iran and Israel. Finalise first ki Defense forum Bharat hai ya Defence forum Israel hai, whose interests are priority!?

Third front aur sovereign powers ka Zinda rahna India ke liye do or die ka situation hai. Germany Russia ke sath deal kar raha tha, Khatam kar dia usko, wapas sovereignty chhin li, Japan under Shinzo abe was trying to form third front with India and Russia, was trying to bring some sovereignty back for Japs, killed. Modi ke sath kya nahi kiye western powers, Israel kya koi apna alag foreign policy se chalta hai kya, uska aur US ka same nahi hai kya?

Iran, Russia needs to survive. Kyonki ye hate to agla number India aur China ka hai, aur China ko pelne se jyada aasan apne ko pelna hai. To sambhav hai hamari sovereignty sabse pahle target karenge, either gulaam or else balkanisation.