Israel x Iran Conflict (107 Viewers)

[snakeeyes07]

Iran has so far fired 350-400 BM at Israel. One can assume they have lost at least 250 on ground, when their launch areas and missiles bases were targeted. They should have around 2000-2500 BM left now.

 

[Muzh]

Laying ground domestically


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Israel's objective is regime change. Nuclear thing is just a fig-leaf.

The question is : how will US help Israel accomplish this goal? We all know, it will start with air strikes. How will it end?

Do you think, US can affect the regime change by aerial campaign only? If so, what platforms will be used? B2s from Diego Garcia? Or, will US bring in equipment to Israel and use Israel as a launchpad? Have any of the Arab countries agreed to let US use their military bases as launchpads? Will US bring an aircraft carrier to Persian Gulf?

 

[Muzh]

Iran has so far fired 350-400 BM at Israel. One can assume they have lost at least 250 on ground, when their launch areas and missiles bases were targeted. They should have around 2000-2500 BM left now.

I think Iran probably has more than 3K. Also, they have backup launchers stored in secure locations. There is a reason why they carry out their strikes at night. They do their preparation in the darkness of the night and then launch the attacks.

Also, they have enough materials to assemble new missiles and launchers if needed. They are completely self reliant.

 

[snakeeyes07]

I think Iran probably has more than 3K. Also, they have backup launchers stored in secure locations. There is a reason why they carry out their strikes at night. They do their preparation in the darkness of the night and then launch the attacks.

You think they can hide in the darkness. Israel and US in particular has scores of satellites with EO/IR, SAR and hyperspectral sensors to see and track movements during night at same level as day.

They launch heavier barrages during night for propaganda value of impacts looking more dramatic.

 

[snakeeyes07]

Israel's objective is regime change. Nuclear thing is just a fig-leaf.

The question is : how will US help Israel accomplish this goal? We all know, it will start with air strikes. How will it end?

Do you think, US can affect the regime change by aerial campaign only? If so, what platforms will be used? B2s from Diego Garcia? Or, will US bring in equipment to Israel and use Israel as a launchpad? Have any of the Arab countries agreed to let US use their military bases as launchpads? Will US bring an aircraft carrier to Persian Gulf?

Iranian regime has already weakened quite a bit, nobody even a couple years back expected Hamas and Hezbollah to be mute spectators in Iran-Israel war.

For Iran, Syrian influence is gone, Lebanon influence is becoming limited, IAF is using Iraq airspace right now.

There is internal dissent in Iran otherwise how do you explain the widespread penetration and space available to Mossad.

Re nuclear goal, US can target Iranian underground bunkers and infra more effectively. This would take their nuclear infra back to zero, with no AD US-Israel can consistently prevent resumption of the program.

Re regime change, there were no foots on ground in Syria for that regime change, there was an insurgency but internal revolt can still happen in Iran.

 

[Ajatshatru]

Israel's objective is regime change. Nuclear thing is just a fig-leaf.

The question is : how will US help Israel accomplish this goal? We all know, it will start with air strikes. How will it end?

Do you think, US can affect the regime change by aerial campaign only? If so, what platforms will be used? B2s from Diego Garcia? Or, will US bring in equipment to Israel and use Israel as a launchpad? Have any of the Arab countries agreed to let US use their military bases as launchpads? Will US bring an aircraft carrier to Persian Gulf?

U.S. can easily target Iran using military bases in Pakistan.

 

[Ajatshatru]

The ongoing Israel-Iran conflict offers important strategic lessons for India—despite Israel’s technological edge, Iran has managed to inflict damage. India must take all necessary measures to prevent such vulnerabilities in any future conflict with Pakistan. De-nuclearizing Pakistan remains essential for achieving lasting peace and stability in South Asia.

India must significantly bolster its local intelligence network within Pakistan, enhance satellite-based surveillance, and further strengthen its air defense systems. In the event of a war, India would need to rapidly neutralize all missile depots and airbases across Pakistan

 

[Mistborn]

I wish China involves in this conflict in some capacity, at least to protect Iran for their 400 billion dollar future investment. Also, would be nice to have China supporting Iran out in the open like Americans aiding Ukrain.

Iran and Israel grinding each other with Chinese and American help will give us some breathing space over next few years.

 

[snakeeyes07]

The ongoing Israel-Iran conflict offers important strategic lessons for India—despite Israel’s technological edge, Iran has managed to infli damage. India must take all necessary measures to prevent such vulnerabilities in any future conflict with Pakistan. De-nuclearizing Pakistan remains essential for achieving lasting peace and stability in South Asia.

India must significantly bolster its local intelligence network within Pakistan, enhance satellite-based surveillance, and further strengthen its air defense systems. In the event of a war, India would need to rapidly neutralize all missile depots and airbases across Pakistan

In general and particularly in India-Pakistan & India-China context, taking damage is expected and it is part of the calculus.

I don't think when Israel started all this, they expected no damage or losses. Almost 1200 Israelis were killed during October 23rd attack.

Similarly, when India takes action on Pakistan there is never an expectation that there will be no losses or damage. Actually to the contrary, it is India's capacity to accept damage, losses, expend ammunition and at the same time take a punishing toll on Pakistan (which far outstrips it's sustainment capacity) that gives it the war winning edge. If India just goes piece meal or only open a few sectors instead of the whole front then India is not playing to its advantage.

 

[Psacha123]

B-2 strikes with GBU-57 with Trump in the situation room?
He asked to make this room ready as he returns tonight early from G7.


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[eastern_bhartiya]

The ongoing Israel-Iran conflict offers important strategic lessons for India—despite Israel’s technological edge, Iran has managed to inflict damage. India must take all necessary measures to prevent such vulnerabilities in any future conflict with Pakistan. De-nuclearizing Pakistan remains essential for achieving lasting peace and stability in South Asia.

India must significantly bolster its local intelligence network within Pakistan, enhance satellite-based surveillance, and further strengthen its air defense systems. In the event of a war, India would need to rapidly neutralize all missile depots and airbases across Pakistan

There would be damages on your side always, israel probably has it in mind, in case of a massive all out strike against pakistan they would also use their green painted Chinese stuff to probably non military area, in that case we must be ready to accept loses and not start whining

 

[Tsunami]

Attach files
Things are kicking off it seems
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Modi Ji: Trump beta bohot bol raha hai... mil to caneda me wahi maruga tujhe G7 wale ke samne

Trump: Oh Shit! Important matter guys... need to leave early, middle east issues.

Jokes apart

Things were going to escalate after G7 anyway...

 

[snakeeyes07]

Modi Ji: Trump beta bohot bol raha hai... mil to caneda me wahi maruga tujhe G7 wale ke samne

Trump: Oh Shit! Important matter guys... need to leave early, middle east issues.

Jokes apart

Things were going to escalate after G7 anyway...

Are they meeting during G7 or will Trump go back before that?

 

[Tsunami]

I wish China involves in this conflict in some capacity, at least to protect Iran for their 400 billion dollar future investment. Also, would be nice to have China supporting Iran out in the open like Americans aiding Ukrain.

Iran and Israel grinding each other with Chinese and American help will give us some breathing space over next few years.

China is waiting for US to get fully involved in Iran situation with hope for boots on ground.

The moment US starts hitting targets in Iran, Iran will retaliate with trying to hit american bases in the region. This will further pull US in the conflict and if things get dirty for US.

That is the window China might be looking for to strike Taiwan.

 

[snakeeyes07]

Hypothetically if Iran agrees to US-Israeli demands now, will the regime survive in the long term?


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[Tumba]

Seems like Iran has folded, crying for ceasefire through Arabs, USA ….

 

[Ajatshatru]

In general and particularly in India-Pakistan & India-China context, taking damage is expected and it is part of the calculus.

I don't think when Israel started all this, they expected no damage or losses. Almost 1200 Israelis were killed during October 23rd attack.

Similarly, when India takes action on Pakistan there is never an expectation that there will be no losses or damage. Actually to the contrary, it is India's capacity to accept damage, losses, expend ammunition and at the same time take a punishing toll on Pakistan (which far outstrips it's sustainment capacity) that gives it the war winning edge. If India just goes piece meal or only open a few sectors instead of the whole front then India is not playing to its advantage.

There would be damages on your side always, israel probably has it in mind, in case of a massive all out strike against pakistan they would also use their green painted Chinese stuff to probably non military area, in that case we must be ready to accept loses and not start whining

I don’t think it’s impossible to minimize casualties to zero. Constructing bunkers for every civilian, strengthening the air defense system, and developing the offensive capability to destroy Pakistani missile depots and airbases can make this goal achievable. While accidents can still happen, that doesn’t mean a fail-proof system cannot be built.

Underground transport infrastructure, such as underground roads and railways, is significantly more secure than surface-level systems. India must develop infrastructure that can continue to function even during a full-scale attack from all sides.

 

[snakeeyes07]

New Iranian strategy or reality hitting them? Happened multiple times today


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[Waanar]

not start whining

On this forum?
Impossible.

Why is Trump calling for the evacuation of Tehran without official pressers or announcements? Is he stupid?

Also, how are Tehran dwellers supposed to evacuate overnight?

Why too?
Are they going to carpet bomb Tehran?
What kind of signalling is this?

 

[Ajatshatru]

I hope the Indian leadership is closely observing these developments and recognizing the critical importance of a strong military to safeguard India’s interests both in the region and beyond. It is equally vital for India to develop a robust indigenous military-industrial complex, ensuring the nation is not forced to bow to international pressure in the event of a war.