Israel x Iran Conflict (98 Viewers)

[darkflame]

Thats a trash level of interception from isreal its a big concern as barak 8 has isreali tech and this level of defense against only 20 missiles is pathetic.
I wonder how good s400 will be against such ballistic missiles. India should take note against the performance of israeli ad systems.

Interception rate was good in initial days of conflict, but now it seems they have run out of interceptors

 

[Azaad]

Our capability is more or less at Israel level, we can target tunnel entrances and exits but not structures buried deeper than 10-15m (especially in mountains).

That's why I think DRDO and Indian Armed forces should look at developing hyunmoo 5 type of missile.

https://www.iiss.org/online-analysis/missile-dialogue-initiative/2024/10/south-koreas-hyunmoo-5-breaks-cover/

Not exactly. We aren't located 2000 + kms away like Israel is from Iran . We use the not only for precision strikes like breaking open the tunnel doors at Kirana but also for counter force strikes if needed by firing those into those tunnels once the entrances have been broken down .

Plus we've N tipped for select usage. If we're convinced Paxtan plans to use N weapons on us , those N tipped will offer us a choice to exercise.

 

[ArjunMK1A]

DRDO and IAF should develop an Indian equivalent, even in era of stealth (F35, F22, B2) these are invaluable assets.


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The correct aircraft we have is an SU 30MKI which can be converted into Dedicated EW Platforms which protect other strike fighters carrying A2G Munitions. As of now DRDO developed the following tech like GaN Radar, DCMAWS (MWF, SU 30MKI), RWR, IRST and Targeting Pods (DRDO working on one, instead we can go with Lightening 3). Now the Jammer pod is critical and we have enough working knowledge on EW Systems like Himshakti etc. It is an matter of planning rather than tech issue.

If we need an Growler version, either we need to convert few SU 30MKI into growlers meaning we are playing with 272 numbers. Or else we can order extra SU 30 MKI for Growler specific roles. Meaning we will have 272 SU 30 MKIs + X EW versions.

Personally, never know the exact reason why IAF is sitting around on Sukhoi orders when multiple times we felt lack of aircraft to carry certain Munitions. DRDO/HAL/ADA gained good composite knowledge, may be we can build an Composite version of SU 30 MKI. Engine is shit, but looks like DRDO/HAL worked on ensuring some decent MTBO on the AL31 series.

On the other hand, we can go with MWF based EW planes. This is the tight squeeze since max payload is 6.5 tonnes and jammer pods may hog half of them. For power production, we can have turbines on jammer pods to ensure extra power required. Also these plane needs Rudram 1 for Anti Radiation work.

B52s have massive radar signature. If they have been used without a shootdown, nothing can help Iran now.

Israeli refuellers can fly OVER Iran and Iran won't be able to do shit.
I'm getting mad at the regime now and I'm not even Iranian.

Why pick fights when you have no proper defense against air threats (you know, the ones Israel and US are famous for NEVER using /s) at all? Are they stupid?

Real answer is Iran is simply lacks credible defence and doing propaganda for way too much time. The reality is they are sitting ducks and rightfully got hammered by Israelis and Americans.

where are the super dooper khyber shekhan missiles that were apparently much better and accurate than pajit missiles? time to aim this at an american carrier group


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Their Ballistic missiles were basically SCUD copies, post US-Iran fallout they just worked on reverse engineered cheap NK missiles. They are just too boastful about it.

Have all observed how Cowardly Chinese are? When we were dirt poor we split a Country, Soviets are relatively poor compared to Current China but still made Mericans lose their shit.

It seems Twitter nomenclature is correct for Chyna -" Most Loyal Anglo Dog".

Waiting for resident MSS Agents to gigabrain how it's some 4D or LundD Chess China is playing.

Chinese were Bussies only. Even the Galwan is basically Chinese capturing the Patrol points where our presence is not there. They never come into post where we are manning. Same happened in Aksai Chin capturing in 51. Whenever they tried real fighting like 67 we beat them to death.

 

[spikey360]

Thats a trash level of interception from isreal its a big concern as barak 8 has isreali tech and this level of defense against only 20 missiles is pathetic.
I wonder how good s400 will be against such ballistic missiles. India should take note against the performance of israeli ad systems.

Probably you were 'sold' on the invincibility seeing the rockets from Hamas.
In reality, BM interception is mostly failure for any any kind of AD.
Even the most sophisticated AD can be defeated by maneuverable warheads, pretty unreliable if you ask me.
S400 will not fare any better.
It's reserved for the big missiles from China and Pakistan which maybe carrying nuclear payloads. We wouldn't be even doing any interception with S400 short of that.

The kind of missiles we see here will be handled by Akash.

 

[Drwho]

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/iran-china-sign-25-year-cooperation-agreement-2021-03-27/

Can any mod do an IP check on this fellow? I don't think anyone can be this deluded, if not high on some real potent stuff.
He believes US wouldn't have bombed Iran had Iran not given one port to India.

Waha iska asli baap China khud US se deal kar raha hai


@Vinash @ezsasa

Abe gadhe ki dum india port is not issue it was just irritant to china. Also we realised porki port has more value for them than gwadar. So they were ok with it.

 

[snakeeyes07]

Not exactly. We aren't located 2000 + kms away like Israel is from Iran . We use the not only for precision strikes like breaking open the tunnel doors at Kirana but also for counter force strikes if needed by firing those into those tunnels once the entrances have been broken down .

Plus we've N tipped for select usage. If we're convinced Paxtan plans to use N weapons on us , those N tipped will offer us a choice to exercise.

I was assuming only conventional, nuclear is a whole different ballgame, pretty much all such buried structures are vulnerable to nuclear counter strike.

 

[Cheepek]

Abe gadhe ki dum india port is not issue it was just irritant to china. Also we realised porki port has more value for them than gwadar. So they were ok with it.

Gandi naali ke keede, are you schizophrenic as well?

 

[ArjunMK1A]

What we can learn is we need an speed demon followed by volley of low cost bois.

Basically the initial strike should be always by , Vishnu HCM, NG, Rudram 2, 3 which are supersonic and hypersonic in nature. Once the target got softened, we should follow with 20-30 Nirbhays like what Americans doing with Tomahawks.

Now add an Long Range drones like Sheshnag, we can annihilate Enemy defences for fun.

 

[ezsasa]

Thats a trash level of interception from isreal its a big concern as barak 8 has isreali tech and this level of defense against only 20 missiles is pathetic.
I wonder how good s400 will be against such ballistic missiles. India should take note against the performance of israeli ad systems.

AD missiles are a limited resource at any given point in time, when there are indications of prolonged threat, it does not make sense to expend all resources and be exposed for the next round. we know their AD system can prioritise incoming projectiles based on type and potential impact points, we can assume IDF is prioritising and conserving AD capability.

zero loss cannot be a compulsion during active prolonged conflict.

 

[Nicky]

No increase in radiation, so what did B2 hit, if anything?


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[Drwho]

Gandi naali ke keede, are you schizophrenic as well?


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Yes they should have invested heavily with china. To gain some regional leverage. Yes !

Giving port to india was an irritant. Yes!

If they had deal with some china economy, china will initiate some reply to save their own investment. Yes!

Pakistan have ladoo in both hand. They have gains from USA and china both . Yes!

You have understanding problem or reading. Instead tu mere ko ulta bol ra hai. Ajeeb insaan hai. Why are you in forum if u have problem to accept point of views or read others post.

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

Thats a trash level of interception from isreal its a big concern as barak 8 has isreali tech and this level of defense against only 20 missiles is pathetic.
I wonder how good s400 will be against such ballistic missiles. India should take note against the performance of israeli ad systems.

They are not gonna intercept every missile, some missile which are calculated to hit relatively unpopulated areas are ignored, during wartime you will have to prioritise what to protect.

During WW2, RAF mostly didn't bother to protect uk cities during first phase of german bombing, because it gave them breathing room to repair airplane and quickly train pilot, luftwaffe also took the bait and focused more on terror bombing urban areas instead of RAF bases, eventually RAF managed to prevent any attempt at land invasion of Britain and Germans had to shift thier focus elsewhere.

 

[Azaad]

I was assuming only conventional, nuclear is a whole different ballgame, pretty much all such buried structures are vulnerable to nuclear counter strike.

My point was we have in both conventional & N roles to do the job . Kirana Hills site is within the hills not buried under it like it was in Fodrow going by reports in the public domain.

 

[indrajit]

Thats a trash level of interception from isreal its a big concern as barak 8 has isreali tech and this level of defense against only 20 missiles is pathetic.
I wonder how good s400 will be against such ballistic missiles. India should take note against the performance of israeli ad systems.

Everything runs out. Eventually. The Israelis had the technology but you can only have so many interceptor missiles.

 

[KumaoniReborn]

What Israel did was an act of aggression and those supporting it blindly are sad. Israel literally rips India off and delusional israeli bots commenting Israel India saaar are an embarrassment.

That being said Iran is inhabited with “muslims”, so I don’t really care how many of their civilians die (Kumaoni is such dehati, ik).

Iran and India would make great strategic partners but religion prevents it.

 

[spikey360]

Furthermore I find it funny that some members are judging an AD only by the civillian hits.
Have you considered the fact that none of the AFB and Navy assets has had significant impact? Have you considered the fact that Dimona still stands unscathed.
These are incredible wins, if you consider how small Israel is.
The Jew is evil, but he is not a fool, please give them that.

 

[KumaoniReborn]

Interception rate was good in initial days of conflict, but now it seems they have run out of interceptors

It was terrible in initial days bro

 

[KumaoniReborn]

Furthermore I find it funny that some members are judging an AD only by the civillian hits.
Have you considered the fact that none of the AFB and Navy assets has had significant impact? Have you considered the fact that Dimona still stands unscathed.
These are incredible wins, if you consider how small Israel is.
The Jew is evil, but he is not a fool, please give them that.

This is not Israeli wins.
This is american wins.

Israel defeating Iran and what not is akin to British Indian army defeating the Turks in WW1.

Israel is a Procivne of the United States

 

[spikey360]

What Israel did was an act of aggression and those supporting it blindly are sad. Israel literally rips India off and delusional israeli bots commenting Israel India saaar are an embarrassment.

That being said Iran is inhabited with “muslims”, so I don’t really care how many of their civilians die (Kumaoni is such dehati, ik).

Iran and India would make great strategic partners but religion prevents it.

I only wish people of Iran and Afghanistan could remember history and just keep their composure and silence in matters of India and Pakistan. That would be tremendous help, and would be a morale booster when Indian Army tears Pakistan apart (an opportunity Motiji missed recently, no prizes for guessing to favour whom).

 

[KumaoniReborn]

I only wish people of Iran and Afghanistan could remember history and just keep their composure and silence in matters of India and Pakistan. That would be tremendous help, and would be a morale booster when Indian Army tears Pakistan apart (an opportunity Motiji missed recently, no prizes for guessing to favour whom).

We need baathist Iraq back. Iraqi army was basically arab version of indian army in iran iraq war.