Indian Navy Developments & Discussions (19 Viewers)

[liberalredditor]

On hold till enough funding is there.
Right now funding is going for more needed systems( capital ships, subs, mine counter measure, aircraft carriers, air wing, asw planes etc).

what if we drdo makes a next gen asw solution and integrates it on rta90 aircraft

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[Corvus Splendens]

I heard that this frigate from Russia cost India $800 million (per unit) which I think is more than p17a.

They each cost roughly $465mil per ship.

 

[shade2]

navy is still pursuing those helicopter carrier plans or the plans got abandoned??

Pursuing in the sense they want it to have IEP so are collabing with GE Vernova( IEP setup ) and RollsRoyce( engines ) for it.

There is no movement on RFI/RFP nor is there any DAC sanction afaik

 

[randombully]

I heard that this frigate (INS Tamal) from Russia cost India $800 million (per unit) which I think is more than p17a.

In October 2016, deal was signed for 4 frigates, 2 built in Russia, 2 built in india.
Deal was ~2.5 billion.
cost included cost of all 4 frigates, cost of tech transfer to build the 2 in india, cost of acquisition and absorption of infrastructure and capabilities to build warships( before this deal Goa shipyard limited only built offshore patrol vessels and coast guard vessels).

So we not only acquired 4 frigates, but also created another shipyard which can create frigates, destroyers etc with complex weapon systems.

The two russian built frigates costed 950 million combined.
So 450 million each for russian made frigates

The two to be made in India cost, 1.55 billion dollars.
So 775 million per ship.
But as said before it also includes cost of capability building.

So around 500-700 million out of 2.5 billion deal can be considered as cost of capability building and tech transfer.

So total cost of 1.8-2billion for 4 ship per ship cost of 400-500 million dollars.


All this in 2016's value of money.

 

[snakeeyes07]

No choice to go with this since nobody will give us the ToT for FRP hull manufacturing.

And don't think Navy/Govt is keep to import ships from Italy or Korea or wherever.

Basically the big 3000 ton ship will deploy 2-3 of these little drone boats with the ROV mine hunter and mine disposal drones or a old fashioned minesweeper

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So will the minesweeper mothership be steel hulled?

 

[randombully]

So will the minesweeper mothership be steel hulled?

Most likely Hull will be developed domestically.
Hence high cost.

 

[snakeeyes07]

Most likely Hull will be developed domestically.
Hence high cost.

If it is just steel hulled then the mothership (similar to City class minesweeper) can be adapted from L&T multi purpose vessel.

 

[randombully]

If it is just steel hulled then the mothership (similar to City class minesweeper) can be adapted from L&T multi purpose vessel.
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Given the high cost, it most likely is not, IMO non magnetic hull is being developed.

 

[liberalredditor]

guys look at this, spot the imposter
you can search for this, its between dockyard road station and mazgaon dock ltd



were they sleeping when they allowed this plan

really? a chinese temple hardly 10 metres from mdl, not even 10 metres, its built right at the main entrance at mazgaon dock

 

[Azaad]

guys look at this, spot the imposter
you can search for this, its between dockyard road station and mazgaon dock ltd

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were they sleeping when they allowed this plan

really? a chinese temple hardly 10 metres from mdl, not even 10 metres, its built right at the main entrance at mazgaon dock

Have you been to MDL or GRSE ? I don't think you've for if you did you wouldn't bring this up here because a practically non functional Chinese temple is the least of the security problems in both these shipyards .

 

[shade2]

So will the minesweeper mothership be steel hulled?

Most likely Hull will be developed domestically.
Hence high cost.

Yes but the hull should be degaussed according to the RFP

High cost is because of the speshul imported equipment and imported drones

 

[vampyrbladez]

If it is just steel hulled then the mothership (similar to City class minesweeper) can be adapted from L&T multi purpose vessel.
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The Navy put a lot of money into the development of composite superstructures during the construction of INS Kiltan and INS Kavaratti.

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Magnetic, infrared and noise suppression measures implemented during the construction of the Kamorta Class corvettes. I think GRSE can bag this provided they have a decent proposal.

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[snakeeyes07]

The Navy put a lot of money into the development of composite superstructures during the construction of INS Kiltan and INS Kavaratti.

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GRSE’s last two ASW corvettes to be very advanced: Navy | India News - Times of India

India News: The last two Kamorta-class Anti Submarine Warfare (ASW) corvettes being built by Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers (GRSE) Ltd are going to be ex

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Magnetic, infrared and noise suppression measures implemented during the construction of the Kamorta Class corvettes. I think GRSE can bag this provided they have a decent proposal.

Project 28 Class

This is not the official website of the Indian Navy and is neither endorsed or recognised officially by the Indian Navy or any of its institutions. Nor are the contents of this website, necessarily the official view of the Indian Navy or any of its institutions

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Earlier minesweepers used to be fiber glass plastic hull, how would that compare to one with composite superstructure?