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[mist_consecutive]

I am really sorry for breaking everyone's heart.

Spoiler: Don't open if you are weak hearted

1 Rafale did crash in Bhatinda.

 

[pythonlover]

I am really sorry for breaking everyone's heart.

Spoiler: Don't open if you are weak hearted

1 Rafale did crash in Bhatinda.

It may or may not have crashed. The point is that let these f*ckers be subject to the same level of proof that they ask from us. Lol they claim that we hit empty air bases and ask us to show the proof of damages to aircraft and personnel, while themselves spamming fake videos and photos as claims. Dude if the hangars were empty, what were your airforce personnel doing inside the hangars? And why were your aircraft parked all over the air bases out in open? You had time to empty your hangars which were protected inside, but left other aircraft out in open? Does it make sense. How many times we have proven their images and videos as fake. Let these f*ckers provide the same level of proof. You claim Rafale was hit, show us a clear evidence which we cannot dispute. Lol and I am not even addressing about 6 planes claim (most likely we lost 2 FA + 1 Heron drone).

And they should tell us what happened to their famed and useless PL-15, J-10, HQ-9 etc etc after the first night of combat when IAF did SEAD & DEAD? How did they allow IAF to bomb PAF bases to smithereens if they are so great? Neither could intercept IAF aircraft nor could intercept our missiles. Useless junks.

 

[Azaad]

I am really sorry for breaking everyone's heart.

Spoiler: Don't open if you are weak hearted

1 Rafale did crash in Bhatinda.

Instead of checking the Wumao you're actually supporting his PoV & all this with zero evidence in the public domain as if both of you are getting your information from the same sources.

And you're supposed to be one of the moderators of this forum.

Keep it up!

 

[snakeeyes07]

I am going to run a IAF-PAF simulation across Punjab, Jammu and some part of Rajasthan area.
PAF
20x J-10C
25x JF-17 blk3 with PL15E loadout
18x JF-17 blk3 with PL12 loadout
12x JF-17 blk3 with CM400AKG loadout
8x F16 blk52
2x HQ16 [Lahore & Sialkot]
2x Spada 2000 [Mianwali, Murid]
1x HQ9B [Nur Khan] - Does anybody know the location of other HQ9B from open source, maybe Sargodha?
1x Babur SSM regiment
1x DF11 SSM regiment
2x Saab 2000 AEW&C
1x JY27A radar

IAF
40x SU30MKI Astra mk1 loadout
10x SU30MKI loadout
30x MIG29UPG
12x Rafale Meteor loadout
12x Tejas MK1 DCA
12x Mirage 2000 MICA loadout DCA
4x Rafale Scalp loadout
1x SSM regiment
1x Agni 1 SSM regiment (roleplaying as Pralay)
1x EMB-145
1x Phalcon
1x S400 [Adampur]
1x IAF Akash [Adampur, Halwara]
1x MRSAM [Bathinda, Sirsa]
2x SA-3 [Bathinda, Sirsa]
1x IA Akash [Jalandhar]
4x Spyder [Amritsar, Jammu, Pathankot, Halwara]
1x P8I

Will give 8 airbases to India (no fighter ops from Amritsar, Jammu, Pathankot). Will give 6 airbases to Pakistan, Rafiqui, Sargodha, Nur Khan, Mianwali (no fighter ops from Lahore and Murid)

In this scenarios air-to-air and air-to-surface engagements will happen simultaneously. In later round, cruise missile (SSM regmts) will open up and followed by BM if losses are very skewed on one side.

Any suggestions?
@randombully
@mist_consecutive
@vampyrbladez

 

[redpanda]

Huwawei makes the ascend 910c/910d 7nm chips and they are already made a 1nm chip which surpasses both TSMC and Intel. You claiming Chinese chips suck is just a biased opinion.

Yeah and I can make flying cars with a scalpel. Your statement is akin to that. Certainly this wumao is earning some extra money for this spicy propaganda. But perhaps wumao was sleeping during his training, he forgot the technology itself hasn't progressed that far in semiconductor industry.

 

[mist_consecutive]

It may or may not have crashed. The point is that let these f*ckers be subject to the same level of proof that they ask from us. Lol they claim that we hit empty air bases and ask us to show the proof of damages to aircraft and personnel, while themselves spamming fake videos and photos as claims. Dude if the hangars were empty, what were your airforce personnel doing inside the hangars? And why were your aircraft parked all over the air bases out in open? You had time to empty your hangars which were protected inside, but left other aircraft out in open? Does it make sense. How many times we have proven their images and videos as fake. Let these f*ckers provide the same level of proof. You claim Rafale was hit, show us a clear evidence which we cannot dispute. Lol and I am not even addressing about 6 planes claim (most likely we lost 2 FA + 1 Heron drone).

And they should tell us what happened to their famed and useless PL-15, J-10, HQ-9 etc etc after the first night of combat when IAF did SEAD & DEAD? How did they allow IAF to bomb PAF bases to smithereens if they are so great? Neither could intercept IAF aircraft nor could intercept our missiles. Useless junks.

Instead of checking the Wumao you're actually supporting his PoV & all this with zero evidence in the public domain as if both of you are getting your information from the same sources.

And you're supposed to be one of the moderators of this forum.

Keep it up!

My viewpoint is different. There was a time for psyops, and most of you will remember I was very active during Op Sindoor. Same for Balakot, same for Galwan.

Post Ops, dust has settled, satellite pictures are out, BDA has been done, ceasefire has been called (and it has been 1+ month). This is the time for us to analyse what went well and what didn't.

For those weapons which worked well, great, we should look into why it worked well, and improve it. But moreover, we must look into what didn't work well, and either fix it, or create contingency plans for it.

Regarding arguing with Wumaos / Jihadis, you are wasting your bandwidth and effort. You cannot convince someone who won't accept satellite pictures and videos taken from the ground. They know the truth, they are lying, and trying to troll you. Pakistan has been defeated and PAF disabled within 48 hours, and they know it.

Leave them to Moderators. Ignore the trolls, move on.

I believe this forum should upheld its standards high-quality knowledge and informed technical debates instead of becoming a GoI IT-cell echo chamber.

I have informed this before, in case this is not something this forum yearns for, moderators please delete this and my above post.

 

[mist_consecutive]

I am gonna drop some tidbits for you guys.

• PAF launched 20-30 PL-15s on the first day. None connected. Why ?
• All PL-15 launches were from J-10C. JF-17s were armed with PL-12s instead. Why ?
• PA used Shakargarh bulge and Siaklot to ambush our jets. How did we tackle that ?
• Did terrorists in Kashmir fired MANPADs at our jets ?
• IAF MRSAM & S-400s scored 5-6 PAF kills. None by our jets. Why ?

 

[Nibbler]

I am gonna drop some tidbits for you guys.

• PAF launched 20-30 PL-15s on the first day. None connected. Why ?
• All PL-15 launches were from J-10C. JF-17s were armed with PL-12s instead. Why ?
• PA used Shakargarh bulge and Siaklot to ambush our jets. How did we tackle that ?
• Did terrorists in Kashmir fired MANPADs at our jets ?
• IAF MRSAM & S-400s scored 5-6 PAF kills. None by our jets. Why ?

Ser just answer questions.. it's been a long day

 

[E-195]

Caption: Mr Arvind Mehra, Managing Director and CEO of Mahindra Aerostructures with Mr Ricardo Chocarro, CEO of Aernnova

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www.mahindra.com

 

[jaijaganath]

I am really sorry for breaking everyone's heart.

Spoiler: Don't open if you are weak hearted

1 Rafale did crash in Bhatinda.

It was known from day 1
Infact I am surprised the way govt was able to control the flow of news
That makes me sure that when people were claiming that look how pakis are preparing and we doing nothing, we were mobilising like hell

Coming to losing of rafale AFAIK it was shoot by SAM not AAM
Don't know from where J-10C or PL-15 came into picture
But yeah many PL-15 were launched at least more that 20 but I can't speak further regarding their score
But there were multiple MKIs and they dodged many AAM like during swift-retort

 

[ArjunMK1A]

Superior SU 57 is a meme at this time. Even Russians can't able to mass manufacture it. It just an evolution of Sukhoi series utilizing the mature tech they mastered in SU 30 series development. It still uses the AL31 derivatives which is an nightmare in terms of MTBO. Exposed Turbine and their adhoc design to shield them. Exposed IRST and exposed nozzles. They just packed some radars for all round coverage. We are working on the same thing with passive sensors like MAWS, RWR. Also the Radars were still behind than DRDO GaN radars.

Also we can do better sensor fusion than Russians. It is just India's trademark chalta hai behavior.

 

[BON PLAN]

Radars are Russia's strong point. Yet, it doesn't boast a AESA radar.

???
The lack of AESA is really a celar weakness. And now the GaN... That mean nearly 2 generation short.
The Su27, 30, 35, 57 radars are only interesting by their big size. In the same size US or Japan or Euope would have a so better radar....

 

[snakeeyes07]

I am going to run a IAF-PAF simulation across Punjab, Jammu and some part of Rajasthan area.
PAF
20x J-10C
25x JF-17 blk3 with PL15E loadout
18x JF-17 blk3 with PL12 loadout
12x JF-17 blk3 with CM400AKG loadout
8x F16 blk52
2x HQ16 [Lahore & Sialkot]
2x Spada 2000 [Mianwali, Murid]
1x HQ9B [Nur Khan] - Does anybody know the location of other HQ9B from open source, maybe Sargodha?
1x Babur SSM regiment
1x DF11 SSM regiment
2x Saab 2000 AEW&C
1x JY27A radar

IAF
40x SU30MKI Astra mk1 loadout
10x SU30MKI loadout
30x MIG29UPG
12x Rafale Meteor loadout
12x Tejas MK1 DCA
12x Mirage 2000 MICA loadout DCA
4x Rafale Scalp loadout
1x SSM regiment
1x Agni 1 SSM regiment (roleplaying as Pralay)
1x EMB-145
1x Phalcon
1x S400 [Adampur]
1x IAF Akash [Adampur, Halwara]
1x MRSAM [Bathinda, Sirsa]
2x SA-3 [Bathinda, Sirsa]
1x IA Akash [Jalandhar]
4x Spyder [Amritsar, Jammu, Pathankot, Halwara]
1x P8I

Will give 8 airbases to India (no fighter ops from Amritsar, Jammu, Pathankot). Will give 6 airbases to Pakistan, Rafiqui, Sargodha, Nur Khan, Mianwali (no fighter ops from Lahore and Murid)

In this scenarios air-to-air and air-to-surface engagements will happen simultaneously. In later round, cruise missile (SSM regmts) will open up and followed by BM if losses are very skewed on one side.

Any suggestions?
@randombully
@mist_consecutive
@vampyrbladez

Setting up IAF right now - I might lower fighter numbers on both both sides proportionately as it is getting chaotic. Still need to add more SU30MKI and MIG29UPG for AA. Also few of LCA FOC (I can add mk1a as well) and Mirage 2000 for DCA.

Currently, I have 8x SU30MKI protecting AEW&CS and LAC. 12 Rafale with 4x meteor each in 6 flights of 2 each

The scenario is that IAF is starting the campaign by conducting strikes on Nur Khan, Sargodha, Shorkot airbases and GHQ. IAF Bases are all on alert with AD network established and active.

PAF J-10s, JF17s and F-16s will be in the air in significant numbers to try and deter Indian strike packages and score kills.

In subsequent simulations, I can see how addition of R-37M and LORA (roleplaying as Rudram) changes things.


IAF Strike package is:
6x Rafale with 2x Scalp EG each
12x SU30MKI with 1x each

There are 2 IA regiments, one in Punjab and other in Udhampur, but they will not open in the first round.

 

[rockdog]

Setting up IAF right now - I might lower fighter numbers on both both sides proportionately as it is getting chaotic. Still need to add more SU30MKI and MIG29UPG for AA. Also few of LCA FOC (I can add mk1a as well) and Mirage 2000 for DCA.

Currently, I have 8x SU30MKI protecting AEW&CS and LAC. 12 Rafale with 4x meteor each in 6 flights of 2 each

The scenario is that IAF is starting the campaign by conducting strikes on Nur Khan, Sargodha, Shorkot airbases and GHQ. IAF Bases are all on alert with AD network established and active.

PAF J-10s, JF17s and F-16s will be in the air in significant numbers to try and deter Indian strike packages and score kills.

In subsequent simulations, I can see how addition of R-37M and LORA (roleplaying as Rudram) changes things.


IAF Strike package is:
6x Rafale with 2x Scalp EG each
12x SU30MKI with 1x each

There are 2 IA regiments, one in Punjab and other in Udhampur, but they will not open in the first round.
View attachment 42170

We also simulated the battle days after 7th May, between PAF ans IAF

 

[redpanda]

My viewpoint is different. There was a time for psyops, and most of you will remember I was very active during Op Sindoor. Same for Balakot, same for Galwan.

Post Ops, dust has settled, satellite pictures are out, BDA has been done, ceasefire has been called (and it has been 1+ month). This is the time for us to analyse what went well and what didn't.

For those weapons which worked well, great, we should look into why it worked well, and improve it. But moreover, we must look into what didn't work well, and either fix it, or create contingency plans for it.

Regarding arguing with Wumaos / Jihadis, you are wasting your bandwidth and effort. You cannot convince someone who won't accept satellite pictures and videos taken from the ground. They know the truth, they are lying, and trying to troll you. Pakistan has been defeated and PAF disabled within 48 hours, and they know it.

Leave them to Moderators. Ignore the trolls, move on.

I believe this forum should upheld its standards high-quality knowledge and informed technical debates instead of becoming a GoI IT-cell echo chamber.

I have informed this before, in case this is not something this forum yearns for, moderators please delete this and my above post.

Well I mostly agree with your view point. I think the administration needs to be a bit more active against the CCP trolls. While I'm certainly pro free speech and believes there could be rationale exchange of dialogues and knowledge. Over these years from my multiple interactions with Chinese users on this forum, it's predecessor, and other places, I have come to conclusion that most of them don't argue in good faith and they often have a very condescending tone, pretty much like a troll. Criticising a system based on technical specifications is fine or events in the development process associated with it. But those guys come and make a very crude remark like "Yeah indian may try to think they are achieving something these days. But perhaps crude craftsmanship of India can never match our sophistry." Or some other bs. Constantly deriding any Indian project and telling them to no do. "Why are you focusing on making jets? Why are you making HGVs? Just work on poverty reduction or building better health infrastructure." etc. When you rationale counter their argument, they resort to shifting goalpost and start over their gaslighting from another point. Some other forums I shall not name have taken rather strict action against their resident Wumaos after multiple infringement of these kinds of bad behaviour.

 

[shade2]

I guessed this shitshow when i read "Chinese chips best in teh wurld" in that guy's post

Earlier i was wondering whether he was a real Ruskal shilling his nation's wares, but "besht in wurld" was all the confirmation i needed

 

[Brood Father]

I am really sorry for breaking everyone's heart.

Spoiler: Don't open if you are weak hearted

1 Rafale did crash in Bhatinda.

Look , We all can speculate what happened or not , Some of us may have inside knowhow about the loses we have suffered but until it is public and confirmed by Government we should be bit careful of the statements
Being mod you have added responsibilities . I agree we are not porky and should be able to separate fact from fiction and analyze but until we have official data on what happened on 6th there is no point of analyzing
Kindly refrain from such posts if they are against national interest.

 

[Anants]

I am really sorry for breaking everyone's heart.

Spoiler: Don't open if you are weak hearted

1 Rafale did crash in Bhatinda.

engine looked like 53 not 88

 

[DancingPeacock]

India didn’t bomb gangbang their airbases . We did hit with precision. Small hits just to make them aware. All the damage on airbases is almost repaired. And if we did cause big damage : neither india nor porky claimed about it. These suaar should have paid specially when whole nation wanted this.

Stop this jingoistic nonsense. We had the chance to damage porky to their hell. But we let it go thanks to big papa trump or chacha Modi. We might never find Pakistan in such situation politically economic diplomatic or social level. They are fighting 3 front war. We had them by neck and just loosen the grip.

They will learn from it and will prepare accordingly. As for what world thinks just leave your city and go out and see what world thinks who won the war.
IAF WA’s found over confident. They got played.

Porkistan have won this narrative war with their propaganda. They have gained more than india. Countries came for their help . USA china turkey oic Ajarbaijan Bangladesh.
And don’t start these poor arse lame nations we don’t care. India Is poorer than most of these nation just google gdp per capita. And remember we have 90% wealth with 10 % people.
while we are sending people around globe requesting them to hear us. Just a few 50 people do u think it will matter? Media WA’s bought by them and their friends they had longer reach.

View: https://x.com/detresfa_/status/1941044886821917268. Yeah, Repaired right? Will you delete your comment or will froth again like street dog?

 

[Ajatshatru]

Fighter Jet​	Max Payload Capacity​
Rafale	9,500 kg
Su-30MKI	8,000 kg
J-10C	6,000 kg
Tejas MK1A	5,300 kg